sferic Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: The Cicero area has lots of Wetlands. I'm not totally sure what the dominant soil type is there, but I imagine there would be a mixture of clay and loam in there. Normally the ground has frozen some, but not this year. Thanks Matt, you're a plethora of valuable information; appreciate it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, sferic said: Hey guys, Since I have been up in Cicero when I take the doggie to the backyard and I walk around whether it's rained or not grass seems like mush or quicksand. Is this my imagination or part of the nature of the soil in upper central NY state? I dont think it's a general soil thing here. It has been unusually wet for months so my property's extra soft underfoot. I also think that the frequent overcast limits drying from the sun in winter, even with bare ground. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Should be changing over in a hour or so buffalo niagara area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, sferic said: Thanks Matt, you're a plethora of valuable information; appreciate it I do like to research. If you're interested...not sure how much you actually want to know, here's a link about the soils of the area. Soil Survey of Onondaga County, New York (usda.gov) I would say if it the top layer of ground is not frozen, chances are it will be softer or mushier around here in the winter. This is usually because it's either rained or all the snow has melted into the ground and water is sitting there. Since sand is not the predominant soil type (water permeates very quickly through it), water is more often found in the topsoil around here. The Syracuse area in general has lots of wetlands, which is a good sign that many areas do not have well drained soils. It's a part of the natural ecosystem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: BW I gotta say seeing Tom Niziol discuss the potential for LEA 5 days out does make my ears perk up. Seeing the GFS being so consistent is absolutely exciting at this point. As you stated LES is a bit easier to spot in a week or less time. This COULD turn a lot of this winter around quickly. Should have a good idea by the time high res gets into timeframe. Tuesday night into Weds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: I do like to research. If you're interested...not sure how much you actually want to know, here's a link about the soils of the area. Soil Survey of Onondaga County, New York (usda.gov) I would say if it the top layer of ground is not frozen, chances are it will be softer or mushier around here in the winter. This is usually because it's either rained or all the snow has melted into the ground and water is sitting there. Since sand is not the predominant soil type (water permeates very quickly through it), water is more often found in the topsoil around here. The Syracuse area in general has lots of wetlands, which is a good sign that many areas do not have well drained soils. It's a part of the natural ecosystem. Quite interested! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 New map 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, tim123 said: New map OTG obs about 4 minutes ago Uber dad to Tim Hortons, white rain, occasional flake, 35 ATM…sky is taking in that white look when it’s snowing out…should be changing over within an hours time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: I do like to research. If you're interested...not sure how much you actually want to know, here's a link about the soils of the area. Soil Survey of Onondaga County, New York (usda.gov) I would say if it the top layer of ground is not frozen, chances are it will be softer or mushier around here in the winter. This is usually because it's either rained or all the snow has melted into the ground and water is sitting there. Since sand is not the predominant soil type (water permeates very quickly through it), water is more often found in the topsoil around here. The Syracuse area in general has lots of wetlands, which is a good sign that many areas do not have well drained soils. It's a part of the natural ecosystem. Yup, sand has more pore space because the particles are all unique so they can’t interlock like clay, thus creates macro pores. What people don’t know is, clay actually has more pore space, but it’s micropores compare to macro pores that sand has. Thus sand drains faster, but due to that is very low in fertility and leaches out much faster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 33 with some rain falling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 34 snow in niagara falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, tim123 said: 34 snow in niagara falls. Radar shows snow over Williamsville but not snowing yet…update it has begun to snow, rain mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: Radar shows snow over Williamsville but not snowing yet. Go with CC. Mix line still to your north 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 @tombo82685you and another guy in Great Lakes have same avatar messing me up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The hell am I looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, tim123 said: The hell am I looking at? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, tim123 said: The hell am I looking at? That’s coefficient correlation best indicator for rain and snow lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, lakeeffectkid383 said: Yes snowing and beginning to stick to cars, pool cover, not quite the grass yet… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geez150 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, tim123 said: Livingston County hast to be the worst county in buffalo forecast area for lake snow. Too far east usually for lake erie and to far south for ontario 2 hours ago, TugHillMatt said: Livingston County...talk about a rough place for an upstate snow lover! Yes, you both hit the nail right on the head. Definitely not a great place at all for a snow lover. But to be fair, I am in the North West corner of Livingston, so I'm not as bad off as the guys down in the valley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Hard to watch all this precip go down the drain. Gotta be coming up on 1/4”. Niagara county looks to be in a great position (as the models suggested) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Hrw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: Hard to watch all this precip go down the drain. Gotta be coming up on 1/4”. Niagara county looks to be in a great position (as the models suggested) Give it a hour or so it will switch over around 10 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: Hard to watch all this precip go down the drain. Gotta be coming up on 1/4”. Niagara county looks to be in a great position (as the models suggested) 0.41” of rain here already, still rain but temps down to 34 so we’re inching closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 46 minutes ago, lakeeffectkid383 said: Can we get a update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, tim123 said: Can we get a update? Moving steadily SE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Currently 46° and light drizzle but only 0.10 of rain here on the day luckily. Loving that dry slot coming across PA and OH that's headed for here. Ffffff this weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Driving sleet in Pittsford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Should be flipping in roc in few min Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 33 and mostly snow now with a couple pingers mixed in. Flakes are nice size too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Sky getting that white look to it at roc airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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