Matthew70 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Tomorrow the winds alone will be quite crazy. 55+ gusts with some 75+ gusts some data is showing. That will bring down some trees. Especially as soft as the ground has become. Glad the severe wx so far has not panned out. Seems TN has a cap on severe wx lately. Kinda like the snow cap especially for east TN. Weird wx these days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Well mid state is now in enhanced. Damaging winds the main threat. Which looks likely. Sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Confirmed tornado this morning around 2am near Chattanooga. That’s the 6th tornado that we know of for the first 60 days of the year in Tennessee. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, PowellVolz said: Confirmed tornado this morning around 2am near Chattanooga. That’s the 6th tornado that we know of for the first 60 days of the year in Tennessee. . My son is at UTC. They got no warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Highwind warnings are now in effect for tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 National Weather Service Nashville TN 223 PM CST Thu Mar 2 2023 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .SHORT TERM... (This afternoon through Friday) Issued at 201 PM CST Thu Mar 2 2023 Go outside. Enjoy this tranquil weather. Tomorrow is not going to be like this. Partly to mostly cloudy skies and winds 10 mph or less is quiet compared to what we`re expected tomorrow. Let`s start with tonight. As I type this, an already intense closed low system has dug into northern Mexico. This system will eject northeastward over the next few hours and as it does, a severe weather outbreak will begin over ArkLaTex. They`re going to be in for a long night. At the same time, a warm front will be lifted through Middle TN. Mostly showers, maybe a few thunderstorms are expected here at home. Initially, we were concerned about the potential for a few strong to severe storms with the warm front, but it looks like we`re not going to destabilize near enough for any intense storms. However, as the night goes on and the upper low becomes negatively tilted over Arkansas and deep, strong cyclogenesis occurs, the pressure gradient will tighten tremendously over the region. This is going to do two things: 1.) pull more moisture/instability into the area and B.) it will make the wind blow as though a severe storm is over the whole area. The combination of instability nearing 500 J/Kg and great forcing along the front will open the door for severe storms. Mainly, damaging straight line winds will be the threat with any storm, but low-level helicities nearing 250 m2/s2 will also cause storms to exhibit some rotation, so a tornado or two is also possible. Of course, all of that is fine and dandy, and while we might issue a few warnings, I really think the bigger story of tomorrow is going to be the gradient winds. For the first time in my 16+ year NWS career, I have preemptively issued a High Wind Warning. This will replace the Wind Advisory completely and run from 6 am to 6 pm CST. Here`s why this is going to be significant: winds are going to gust 45 to 60 mph probably before storms get to wherever you are. This will open the door for trees to fall (especially with grounds already wet) and power outages to occur. This means you will need to have your smart phone charged to 100% TONIGHT and make sure you have fresh batteries in your NOAA Weather Radio so you can reliably get warnings if the power goes out. This is going to be a unique situation and we need to treat it as such. Gradient winds aside, models continue to show storms breaking across the TN River around 7-8 am tomorrow morning and traversing Middle TN through the mid-afternoon hours. Winds will start to subside around sunset in the west and last a few more hours in the east. In regards to the flood threat, QPF value are not sky high. I do believe we can see the light at the end of the tunnel as far as that`s concerned. However, with several spots seeing 3 inches last night, additional rainfall tonight and again tomorrow over the same areas could cause at a minimum localized flooding. For this reason, I will maintain the Flood Watch, though it could be cancelled early if rain totals look even smaller than what I`m seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utvols235 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 My son is at UTC. They got no warning.Everyone I know got a warning. Polygon was north of campus. Might be why. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt9697 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, jaxjagman said: National Weather Service Nashville TN 223 PM CST Thu Mar 2 2023 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .SHORT TERM... (This afternoon through Friday) Issued at 201 PM CST Thu Mar 2 2023 Go outside. Enjoy this tranquil weather. Tomorrow is not going to be like this. Partly to mostly cloudy skies and winds 10 mph or less is quiet compared to what we`re expected tomorrow. Let`s start with tonight. As I type this, an already intense closed low system has dug into northern Mexico. This system will eject northeastward over the next few hours and as it does, a severe weather outbreak will begin over ArkLaTex. They`re going to be in for a long night. At the same time, a warm front will be lifted through Middle TN. Mostly showers, maybe a few thunderstorms are expected here at home. Initially, we were concerned about the potential for a few strong to severe storms with the warm front, but it looks like we`re not going to destabilize near enough for any intense storms. However, as the night goes on and the upper low becomes negatively tilted over Arkansas and deep, strong cyclogenesis occurs, the pressure gradient will tighten tremendously over the region. This is going to do two things: 1.) pull more moisture/instability into the area and B.) it will make the wind blow as though a severe storm is over the whole area. The combination of instability nearing 500 J/Kg and great forcing along the front will open the door for severe storms. Mainly, damaging straight line winds will be the threat with any storm, but low-level helicities nearing 250 m2/s2 will also cause storms to exhibit some rotation, so a tornado or two is also possible. Of course, all of that is fine and dandy, and while we might issue a few warnings, I really think the bigger story of tomorrow is going to be the gradient winds. For the first time in my 16+ year NWS career, I have preemptively issued a High Wind Warning. This will replace the Wind Advisory completely and run from 6 am to 6 pm CST. Here`s why this is going to be significant: winds are going to gust 45 to 60 mph probably before storms get to wherever you are. This will open the door for trees to fall (especially with grounds already wet) and power outages to occur. This means you will need to have your smart phone charged to 100% TONIGHT and make sure you have fresh batteries in your NOAA Weather Radio so you can reliably get warnings if the power goes out. This is going to be a unique situation and we need to treat it as such. Gradient winds aside, models continue to show storms breaking across the TN River around 7-8 am tomorrow morning and traversing Middle TN through the mid-afternoon hours. Winds will start to subside around sunset in the west and last a few more hours in the east. In regards to the flood threat, QPF value are not sky high. I do believe we can see the light at the end of the tunnel as far as that`s concerned. However, with several spots seeing 3 inches last night, additional rainfall tonight and again tomorrow over the same areas could cause at a minimum localized flooding. For this reason, I will maintain the Flood Watch, though it could be cancelled early if rain totals look even smaller than what I`m seeing now. I can echo what the forecaster said, I do not recall another time in my life, I have lived in Middle TN my entire 51 years, where we have had a high wind warning issued 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 NAM STP tomorrow afternoon . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, PowellVolz said: NAM STP tomorrow afternoon . What does this mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PowellVolz said: NAM STP tomorrow afternoon . Do you have the one for Nashville proper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PowellVolz said: NAM STP tomorrow afternoon . It’s the significant tornado parameter value. Higher it is the higher chances of an EF2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Do you have the one for Nashville proper?. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 What does this mean?It just shows the potential for tornadoes. Doesn’t mean there will be tornadoes but the potential is there. There’s some 11 of 12’s showing up there and I thought the “meter” only went up to 10. I believe a 3 or 4 is considered a heightened risk level. . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, PowellVolz said: . Thank you! That’s pretty high values. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runman292 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 MRX AFD: For Friday, the upper level system and associated strong cyclogenesis will lift northeast toward the Ohio valley. Impressive 850-700mb jet with NAEFS showing anomaly high wind field over the Tennessee valley. The 850mb jet of 75kts+ will move across the region with strong momentum transfer of the low-level jet to the surface. Even though the wind gusts of 50-60 mph in the valley may be below warning criteria, saturated ground will make conditions more susceptible to down trees and power lines. Power outages Friday are likely. Beside the gradient induced high winds, a severe threat also exists. Damaging straight line will be the main concern. Isolated tornadoes are also possible as 0-1km and effective shear are off the charts. Limiting factors are the low-CAPE and possible high LCL heights. Also, the strongest of the synoptic forcing lift north of the area. Will need to monitor the potential of tornadoes closely. Latest HRRR model does show an increasing potential but HREF CAMS showed the best 2-5km updraft helicity tracks over Kentucky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Non thunderstorm wind gusts . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Schools closing in mid state. Rutherford out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Matthew70 said: Schools closing in mid state. Rutherford out. Same on the plateau and central eastern great valley around Knoxville 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Same on the plateau and central eastern great valley around Knoxville I work for Knox Co schools and I was shocked when I got the call we are out. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 Be relly surprised if they dont expand that risk further east in a bit with that wind shear showing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Be relly surprised if they dont expand that risk further east in a bit with that wind shear showingAgree… MRX is now expecting a period of clearing tomorrow. Warm front is north of I-40 now…. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 We probably should have started a thread just for wind..lol..thats gonna seemingly be the bigger story 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 HRRR STP, simulation radar and 10m wind gusts for tomorrow afternoon. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxjagman Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, PowellVolz said: HRRR STP, simulation radar and 10m wind gusts for tomorrow afternoon. . Try this one https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-more-layers/overlays?gust,2023030215,36.473,-89.253,5,m:eNpadfB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowellVolz Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Try this one https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-more-layers/overlays?gust,2023030215,36.473,-89.253,5,m:eNpadfBWow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Seeing the system become a prolific wind maker is not surprising. Two days ago when I came ashore in Southern California it had quite strong winds even after the low had passed 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, jaxjagman said: Try this one https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-more-layers/overlays?gust,2023030215,36.473,-89.253,5,m:eNpadfB My eyes can not bulge anymore! That’s a few hours of 55+ mph winds. Good gosh. This could be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I hope he’s wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I think we should probably isolate a thread for this event. The ground is saturated. 55+ mph wind gusts alone are going to make for a very bad day for utility companies. But with potential strong storm modes plus strong LLJ, regardless of tornado potential, we're likely to see significant winds with this system mixing down to the surface. Widespread 65+ mph gusts seem quite possible, with numerous isolated 80+ mph winds. With such parameters in place, it wouldn't be much of a reach if the NPC upgrades to moderate for the Cumberland Plateau into Kentucky. Timing of cells and storm modes ironed out in the morning. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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