MJO812 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 19 degrees right now in Brooklyn Coldest temperature so far this winter. An arctic blast on the models next week. Combine that with possible snowcover. Maybe single digits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Wasn't March 2014 supposed to be snowy and somehow the storms all ended up suppressed (very unusual in a spring month)? How did DC do in February 1989 and December 1989, Don? Those were our two biggest busts in the 80s when 6-8" was predicted and we got virga in the former and rain in the latter. February 1989 had a monthly total of 1.0” at DCA. 2/24 brought just 0.3”. December 1989 was much snowier with 9.0”. 12/8 3.6” and 12/12-13 4.5” were the biggest events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15F! I think Ive said this once or twice this season so far…it is a shame that little snow system didnt pan out…def would have had a few days of winter feel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 13 for a low here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, snywx said: 13 for a low here Same here. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Low was 17-18 here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 here this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, bluewave said: That forecast Arctic shot for early next weeks looks like it will be colder than anything NYC has seen in the last 2 winters. So this could be the first single digits for NYC in 3 years. The Euro continues with impressive cold for a few days. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Lowest Min Temperature Missing Count 2021 14 0 2020 14 0 2019 2 0 2018 5 0 2017 9 0 2016 -1 0 2015 2 0 2014 4 0 2013 11 0 2012 13 0 2011 6 0 2010 13 0 One of our next big climate milestones will be a winter we’re it doesn’t drop below 20. That would bring us to zone 8 and introduce allot of semi tropical plants and trees (many more hardy palms) luckily we are already safe this winter with 19 at the park this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: One of our next big climate milestones will be a winter we’re it doesn’t drop below 20. That would bring us to zone 8 and introduce allot of semi tropical plants and trees (many more hardy palms) luckily we are already safe this winter with 19 at the park this morning. Washington, DC has now gone 1,066 days since its last sub-20 temperature. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: One of our next big climate milestones will be a winter we’re it doesn’t drop below 20. That would bring us to zone 8 and introduce allot of semi tropical plants and trees (many more hardy palms) luckily we are already safe this winter with 19 at the park this morning. LGA was our only station not to drop below 20° during a cold season. But all the other stations came close in 01-02. I can still remember joggers wearing shorts on the LB boardwalk during that lack of a winter. Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Min Temperature Oct 1 to Apr 30 Missing Count 1 2002-04-30 20 0 2 2021-04-30 17 0 - 2017-04-30 17 0 3 1998-04-30 16 0 4 2020-04-30 15 0 - 2006-04-30 15 0 - 2001-04-30 15 0 5 2012-04-30 14 0 - 2010-04-30 14 0 - 1975-04-30 14 0 Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Min Temperature Oct 1 to Apr 30 Missing Count 1 2002-04-30 19 0 2 1975-04-30 15 0 - 1932-04-30 15 0 3 2021-04-30 14 0 - 2020-04-30 14 0 - 2017-04-30 14 0 - 2006-04-30 14 0 - 2001-04-30 14 0 - 1998-04-30 14 0 4 2012-04-30 13 0 - 2010-04-30 13 0 - 1937-04-30 13 0 - 1902-04-30 13 0 5 1983-04-30 12 0 - 1953-04-30 12 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 hours ago, bluewave said: That forecast Arctic shot for early next weeks looks like it will be colder than anything NYC has seen in the last 2 winters. So this could be the first single digits for NYC in 3 years. The Euro continues with impressive cold for a few days. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Lowest Min Temperature Missing Count 2021 14 0 2020 14 0 2019 2 0 2018 5 0 2017 9 0 2016 -1 0 2015 2 0 2014 4 0 2013 11 0 2012 13 0 2011 6 0 2010 13 0 Europen with 850 temps forecast AT -24C or less could translate to zero or sub degree readings inland Jan 11-12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Technically, it was sub 20 here this am (19.7) but I record that as 20. Does anyone record without rounding? If the decimal is .5, I round to the even number. Keeps things more even 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: Technically, it was sub 20 here this am (19.7) but I record that as 20. Does anyone record without rounding? If the decimal is .5, I round to the even number. Keeps things more even Same here. Dipped just below 20 this morning but it goes in the books as 20. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 54 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: Technically, it was sub 20 here this am (19.7) but I record that as 20. Does anyone record without rounding? If the decimal is .5, I round to the even number. Keeps things more even Depends on what they want their narrative to be...we round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, SACRUS said: Europen with 850 temps forecast AT -24C or less could translate to zero or sub degree readings inland Jan 11-12 The source region for the Arctic shot next week is very cold. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 hours ago, dmillz25 said: Down to 17 here. Coldest of the year did central park and the airports make it into the teens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, bluewave said: The source region for the Arctic shot next week is very cold. will any snowcover be around do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: did central park and the airports make it into the teens? The Park got down to 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 WWA for freezing rain tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 32 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: The Park got down to 19 25 years ago it would have been in the single digits last night for the city.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: Technically, it was sub 20 here this am (19.7) but I record that as 20. Does anyone record without rounding? If the decimal is .5, I round to the even number. Keeps things more even Same. 19.6 here this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, nycwinter said: 25 years ago it would have been in the single digits last night for the city.. If the storm had come 100 miles further north and gave us even a few inches of snow, many of us would've been 5 degrees colder at least. Atlantic City was down to 10, Dover DE was 13, BWI was 15. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, jm1220 said: If the storm had come 100 miles further north and gave us even a few inches of snow, many of us would've been 5 degrees colder at least. Atlantic City was down to 10, Dover DE was 13, BWI was 15. I noticed Millville at 5 (with calm wind) at one point this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, jm1220 said: If the storm had come 100 miles further north and gave us even a few inches of snow, many of us would've been 5 degrees colder at least. Atlantic City was down to 10, Dover DE was 13, BWI was 15. well central park had no snow and even without snow with this air mass would have been in the single digits 25 years ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELEG Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, nycwinter said: well central park had no snow and even without snow with this air mass would have been in the single digits 25 years ago.. No. It would not have. Absolute BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 well central park had no snow and even without snow with this air mass would have been in the single digits 25 years ago..That’s a 10°+ temperature swing. How do you figure?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: I noticed Millville at 5 (with calm wind) at one point this morning. Toms River? They radiate really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, SHELEG said: No. It would not have. Absolute BS I'm not so sure. I remember the 80s. Single digits happened much more easily back then. Especially in January. Even our crappy winters had cold Januarys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, North and West said: That’s a 10°+ temperature swing. How do you figure? . I mean I don't know about this specific airmass, but in general single digits happened much more easily in the 80s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Milder air will return tomorrow ahead of the next cold front. There could be some showers. It will turn colder on Thursday ahead of a possible snowfall on Friday. At present, it appears that the storm will develop a little too far offshore and too late to deliver a significant snowfall to the region. Instead, it could be the type of storm that brings a 1"-3"/2"-4" snowfall with higher amounts in eastern New England and across eastern Long Island. January commenced with an AO-/PNA- pattern. That typically favors somewhat cooler than normal readings in the East. For NYC, the January 1-10, 1991-2020 mean temperature for such cases was 33.5° (normal: 34.8°). This time around, the average will be warmer, but the overall tendency toward cooler weather is underway. By mid-month, New York City's temperature anomaly could be near or even somewhat below normal. The coldest air will likely remain confined to the Pacific Northwest, Northern Plains, and western and central Canada through this week. Afterward, the cold could press farther south into at least the northern Middle Atlantic and Ohio Valley regions. Arctic air could reach the Middle Atlantic region during the second week of January. There is a chance that temperatures will fall well into the teens and perhaps even single digits in New York City early next week. The colder pattern that has discontinuously developed just after the New Year last for two or perhaps three weeks before it breaks down. Thus, it could begin to break down sometime in the January 15-20 timeframe. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.5°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -1.0°C for the week centered around December 29. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -1.33°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.98°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through meteorological winter. The SOI was +3.40 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -0.649 today. On January 2 the MJO was in Phase 7 at an amplitude of 2.183 (RMM). The January 1-adjusted amplitude was 2.086 (RMM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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