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Interesting. If this S/W can really amp and trend north it would be against the sheared/progressive trend this season but something has to break it I guess. I’m still definitely not on the get hopes up train but if 6z/12z continue the trend, might really happen. For SE NJ I’d definitely be paying attention.

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23 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Interesting. If this S/W can really amp and trend north it would be against the sheared/progressive trend this season but something has to break it I guess. I’m still definitely not on the get hopes up train but if 6z/12z continue the trend, might really happen. For SE NJ I’d definitely be paying attention.

I agree with everything in this post.  Would be great to see!

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On 12/31/2021 at 7:25 PM, EasternLI said:

Scandinavian/NAO blocking seems to have dominated. Some similarities with a standard la Niña pattern in the Pacific. Strange year really. Basically a -NAO la Niña. 

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Like 2010-11?

why cant more winters be like that?

what if that was actually the base state of the atmosphere?

 

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On 12/31/2021 at 7:35 PM, bluewave said:

A perfect Nov to Apr -NAO /-EPO pattern with a ridge near California. Maybe Walt can comment on what the long range forecasts looked like. I really got interested in longer range forecasting after reading Walt’s great AFD’s out of the Boston NWS office in the late 90s. Probably the greatest long range AFDs in NWS history. 
 

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But I still need to ask why this is so rare and what it would take to make this the base state for the atmosphere?

 

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On 12/31/2021 at 6:35 PM, NEG NAO said:

1916-17 0 0 0 0 T 14.5 5.8 12.2 11.7 6.5 0 0 50.7

1922-23 0 0 0 0 1.0 8.0 24.5 18.8 8.1 T 0 0 60.4

1947-48 0 0 0 0 T 30.2 15.3 13.6 4.7 0 0 0 63.8

1960-61 0 0 0 T 0 18.6 16.7 18.2 1.2 T 0 0 54.7

1963-64 0 0 0 0 T 11.3 13.3 14.1 6.0 T 0 0 44.7

1995-96 0 0 0 0 2.9 11.5 26.1 21.2 13.2 0.7 0 0 75.6

2013-14 0 0 0 0 T 8.6 19.7 29.0 0.1 T 0 0 57.4

1916-17 was also a la nina ... funny a few of these are

 

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3 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

If the past few years are any indication then this system will keep ticking NW till it begins. 

The Monday event is “ticking” NW today because of the SE ridge press and lack of a -NAO block….this is why the risk for Friday is an inland runner, I think that event most likely ends up further west than what the Euro and the other models are showing right now as we get closer to that event. Models underestimating the SE ridge until we get right up to the event. Once that shortwave amps for Friday’s event, there’s no -NAO block to force secondary redevelopment off shore or tame the SE ridge. If there’s any thunderstorm blowups over the SE as the storm develops, the latent heat release aloft from the t-storms pumps the SE ridge even more 

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3 hours ago, snowman19 said:

The Monday event is “ticking” NW today because of the SE ridge press and lack of a -NAO block….this is why the risk for Friday is an inland runner, I think that event most likely ends up further west than what the Euro and the other models are showing right now as we get closer to that event. Models underestimating the SE ridge until we get right up to the event. Once that shortwave amps for Friday’s event, there’s no -NAO block to force secondary redevelopment off shore or tame the SE ridge. If there’s any thunderstorm blowups over the SE as the storm develops, the latent heat release aloft from the t-storms pumps the SE ridge even more 

You need to at least admit that your bashing of the gfs was wrong with this system…..

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