8611Blizz Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 LOL Scott and Will trying to herd cats off the tobin bridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 It usually doesn't happen, but stuff has been changing around alot these days even insider of 4-5 days. Maybe something will shift for the weekend/early next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 22 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The deeper PNA trough also caused the more amplified ridge into the south-central US (like TX/OK up into the lower MS valley) and that helped shred systems…if a few of these shortwaves stay slightly less shredded, you prob get a couple of warning events out of it. Yes, this is what I was getting at it in my exchange with scooter...I know he is aware, just saying. I made an annotation illustrating this last week. Often times at this latitude, the most detrimental impact of RNA on snowfall is that is provides deconstructive interference for SWs, rather than rendering it too warm to snow...the latter is more common points south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yes, this is what I was getting at it in my exchange with scooter...I know he is aware, just saying. I made an annotation illustrating this last week. Often times at this latitude, the most detrimental impact of RNA on snowfall is that is provides deconstructive interference for SWs, rather than rendering it too warm to snow...the latter is more common points south. Yep, just a little less in either direction (mostly RNA PNA..whatever you want to call it) would have helped a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said: LOL Scott and Will trying to herd cats off the tobin bridge. I was walking towards it, but had a George Bailey moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, ice1972 said: Man this rubs me wrong - all kinds of wrong - it was Corona Light and limes in West Hartford after that storm...... Wicked drifts from that storm. Days of yore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I was walking towards it, but had a George Bailey moment. The extended range ICON your Clarence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: The extended range ICON your Clarence? Every time you load the ICON, a weenie gets their wings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I know...but what happened that year? They baked out west and into AK. I think it's a classic climo balance. All the years they had lack luster snow in the 2010s....making up for it now. That's the result of a -PNA on roads. Usually Ninas aren't as snowy in the central Sierra. I love snow but I like the fact that the Sierras are getting pounded with snow, even though it is to the detriment of the northeast. We depend on California for a good share of our fruits and vegetables. Also, their snowpack should lessen the severity of wildfires. I'm not concerned about the outlook for January as in my experience February has most often been the best month for snow. I most enjoy watching the snow fall, although I realize in your area snowpack seems to be just as, if not more important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Ant won't be loading the 12z ICON i can assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, ice1972 said: The definition of a good winter does not include losing December.......theres three periods in winter and you can't go down 2-0 in the first period and expect to blow out the other team especially when the wait for the next game is 9 months - God it sucks to lose December - can't do that Oh we disagree here. I have low expectations for December here in SNE. In a four quarter game, Feb and March are winning time. You can easily have a good December and fall apart. A rocking Feb/March closes things out strong. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Pretty sizable changes on the GFS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 57 minutes ago, ice1972 said: Totally - winter needs to behave itself and not be a ****ing toddler about it........you can't lose December like this and feel good about the rest of the season even if it turns out "average".....so many people on here are cool with an "average" winter.....its fuking weird.... When was December a winter month in West Hartford??? A few years the last decade? It's not normal to have snow in your area in December... not even northwest CT has that usually, at least nothing that lasts. Now, if we get a week or so into January and nothings happening well then we may have a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Pretty sizable changes on the GFS. Just going to comment on this but you beat me to it, Still has three waves but the first two are further east and would be more on the frozen side then plain RN up here anyways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, dryslot said: Just going to comment on this but you beat me to it, Still has three waves but the first two are further east and would be more on the frozen side then plain RN. Yeah much better for you, and the last is a low chance deal here, but close to something decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I guess that isn't far from 00z either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, CoastalWx said: Yeah much better for you, and the last is a low chance deal here, but close to something decent. The third one is the best one but looks to just fringe down to you and the coast up here, Would rather see these first 2 remain relatively weak and don't allow the baroclinic zone to get that far east for the third SLP to track closer to the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 First legit cold shot on the backside of that one too in the Northeast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 would the first or 2nd wave help with the antecendent airmass? I was reading that that was the main problem for the weekend and early next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, mahk_webstah said: would the first or 2nd wave help with the antecendent airmass? I was reading that that was the main problem for the weekend and early next week. It would, But it also allows the broclinic zone to get further east so that 3rd follow tracks further east as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 The 3rd low looks a bit like a fraud….maybe it’ll work out but imho the best chance is to trend the one before it into a classic overrunning/SWFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, UnitedWx said: When was December a winter month in West Hartford??? A few years the last decade? It's not normal to have snow in your area in December... not even northwest CT has that usually, at least nothing that lasts. Now, if we get a week or so into January and nothings happening well then we may have a problem IDK - that doesn’t matter….you’re hung up on average or normal or whatever it is people here smoke……the point is that it can snow and be all wintery in west Hartford in December - we know this and we’ve seen it…..plenty of times I’ve had a good starter pack on my Xmas lights on the azaleas to get the month solidly in the win column…..sure maybe it’s “normal” to have more “winter” I. Jan and Feb here but I don’t care…..I expect greatness every year…..this December is not great - it’s not even good…..it’s garbage and you all know it and it sucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, dryslot said: Ant won't be loading the 12z ICON i can assure you. Here, let me help him. @MJO812 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, The 4 Seasons said: Here, let me help him. @MJO812 Second tier of gray for meeeeee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The 3rd low looks a bit like a fraud….maybe it’ll work out but imho the best chance is to trend the one before it into a classic overrunning/SWFE. Might be some GEFS members showing that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The 3rd low looks a bit like a fraud….maybe it’ll work out but imho the best chance is to trend the one before it into a classic overrunning/SWFE. Annafrontal, And yes, Get the trough further east and have these go out under SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The 3rd low looks a bit like a fraud….maybe it’ll work out but imho the best chance is to trend the one before it into a classic overrunning/SWFE. so we just need to get the airmass refreshed behind the first wave? What is the timing on these if you don't mind? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Here, let me help him. @MJO812 Congrats Quebec City! For those of you who haven't been there, it is the best place for a winter vacation on this continent. Lots of snow, very old city with all sorts of monumnents to wars on this contintent over the last 400 years. Feels like Europe, with French spoken, but very friendly with English speakers. Amazing food and great charm and walking. Winter carnival at start of February last for 2 weeks and is well worth it. I think the USD is still strong against the CD. Go and your weenie needs will be met. Romantic as hell so bring the significant other and that last sentece will have multiple meanings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Pretty sizable changes on the GFS. Seems like the only constant in the variability of weather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The 3rd low looks a bit like a fraud….maybe it’ll work out but imho the best chance is to trend the one before it into a classic overrunning/SWFE. I Implore people that are in this primarily for snowfall, which I would venture to say is the majority of us, to check out on this conga line of nuisance dribble. If you just want to nerd out over the science of prostate milking to 1001 mb lows, then this is the pattern for you. But if you are emotionally invested in fun winter storms, get out and stay out until further notice. I don't need the headache of precipitation type issues from episodes of .01" QPF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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