PhineasC Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: This has to be at least the 6th ZR event this season here. Relentless. I hate the stuff unless it's gonna be some historic, noteworthy event. This nuisance ZR that's just enough to mess up your day sucks for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, dendrite said: I’m sure NHDOT will be 3 hours too late again lol q 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, dendrite said: lol q Seems to be a debacle on 93 every few days... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, PhineasC said: Seems to be a debacle on 93 every few days... Idk what’s been going on, but we’re turning into CT. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, dendrite said: Idk what’s been going on, but we’re turning into CT. Omicron shortages. Less plow drivers. Less dpw. Less everything. I've been hearing this all over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: Idk what’s been going on, but we’re turning into CT. Beer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitzbuhel Craver Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Omicron shortages. Less plow drivers. Less dpw. Less everything. I've been hearing this all over. Yup. Not sure what thread it was, but someone had commented on how in CT hundreds of DOT workers were out because of quarantine and awaiting negative test results. Rapid Test false positives for the loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, dendrite said: Idk what’s been going on, but we’re turning into CT. Honest question . Does anyone know why NH DOT are clowns . What is the general attitude with regard to following ice storms and treating Before cars are totaled or are they “rationing” salt or did they treat adequately and there is just nothing they can do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said: Omicron shortages. Less plow drivers. Less dpw. Less everything. I've been hearing this all over. I guess, but they’re out there once 2 dozen cars wreck. We’ve known the ZR was coming for days…why can’t they pretreat? It sounds more like lousy planning to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 37 and light rain here. Starting to get some of the ice melted off the driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Kind of an interesting observation outside right now. Winds are gusting maybe 30 mph while it's 33 F in a mist of light rain. But, some of the snows that lingered in their stenciling of the tree limbs is being knocked to the vagaries of the winds, and sets to whirling in the breeze as though immediately it is still powdery in nature. It's like a recording of the colder recent times, spilling into the present tenths of a failing "warm" up - it's a temp recovery, but it ain't warm out there. Windy, gusting near 30, still blowing snow off the trees. 33* rn- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, dendrite said: Idk what’s been going on, but we’re turning into CT. NH used to be the gold standard in DOT winter services. They have fallen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, dendrite said: I guess, but they’re out there once 2 dozen cars wreck. We’ve known the ZR was coming for days…why can’t they pretreat? It sounds more like lousy planning to me. Nobody holds them accountable. As I wait for the ZR in North Conway to slow I’ll visit their twitter page and ask them how many hospitalizations do they wait for before they treat a road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, dendrite said: lol q Off topic but i can't pm you either but all of a sudden i'm like over 400% on attachments and 200% in my inbox which were fine a few days back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Up to 30F here with freezing rain all morning. What's weird is that there doesn't seem to be any accretion on the trees, just the ground. Big drops seem to be finding there way to ground before they freeze. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: Windy, gusting near 30, still blowing snow off the trees. 33* rn- I told you, you're in a cad spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, snowgeek said: Up to 30F here with freezing rain all morning. What's weird is that there doesn't seem to be any accretion on the trees, just the ground. Big drops seem to be finding there way to ground before they freeze. Similar here, but this morning when it was in the low 20s it was raining pretty hard so that’s probably why no ice in the trees or powerlines. Big drops have more heat. If you really want ice buildup you want a nice heavy mist falling with temps in the upper 20’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, snowgeek said: Up to 30F here with freezing rain all morning. What's weird is that there doesn't seem to be any accretion on the trees, just the ground. Big drops seem to be finding there way to ground before they freeze. The near-sfc in-situ CAD ZR events don’t accrete on elevated surfaces very well because the drops aren’t supercooled. Literally a few hundred feet up is probably above freezing. Usually when the cold is a bit deeper, the drops become supercooled so they freeze on contact with trees and power lines. In this case, they need some time to glaze, so they drip down and mostly freeze on the ground. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Overcast here and 35F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go Kart Mozart Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 GFS looking euro-ish through 108? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 We might as well just say that 2015 is walking through the door. Not sure how else to get expectations any higher lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Seems to be a debacle on 93 every few days... ....well if only NHDOT would pay attention to weather forecasts they may be able to prepare the roads for impending winter weather... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, dendrite said: lol q fascinating as I don't see any precip here looking out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ....well if only NHDOT would pay attention to weather forecasts they may be able to prepare the roads for impending winter weather... I wonder are they rationing supplies or they just wait till there are a few pile ups and then someone calls Big Joe bob who is sleeping off his hangover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonPeon Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I'll take a 958 mb bomb somewhere in the general hemisphere as something to watch. My winter spirit has been awakened, and it must do something before it goes to bed disappointed in a couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I don't work for a dpw or any state or city but I will say one the things that has hampered the response to freezing rain or drizzle is the lack of sand. Sand is all but outlawed in many areas of the country for use since it is really considered a pollutant now. Does anybody remember the beaches that would be left on the sides of the roads after the winter? Sand is really the only thing that will remain on the road after a storm. Brine washes away quickly if there is any rain at all. That said a storm like this does require a heavy response to keep the roads clear of ice. De-icers and liquids will wash away within minutes of being applied so constant applications are necessary and pretreating is only good for about an hour (maybe less) depending on how heavy it's raining. All that said, if you apply nothing then that is guaranteeing failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, STILL N OF PIKE said: I wonder are they rationing supplies or they just wait till there are a few pile ups and then someone calls Big Joe bob who is sleeping off his hangover It is the same every year in NH...nothing changes...no income tax = no services....On Route 93 North there is always an obvious difference at Exit 1 ....the MA side of 93 close to that exit is always in much better shape compared to the NH side......only gets worse from there.... Big Joe Bob has been found 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The near-sfc in-situ CAD ZR events don’t accrete on elevated surfaces very well because the drops aren’t supercooled. Literally a few hundred feet up is probably above freezing. Usually when the cold is a bit deeper, the drops become supercooled so they freeze on contact with trees and power lines. In this case, they need some time to glaze, so they drip down and mostly freeze on the ground. Ahhh, makes sense! Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connecticut Appleman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 There is a huge problem with salt contamination of ground water and drinking wells. This is a growing problem with no easy solution. Sand does very little (especially without salt added to it) as traffic will kick it out of the wheel paths very quickly. Research has shown that after 30-40 vehicles going over sand going at 35-40 mph will kick the sand out of the wheel paths. Then in the spring there are 100's of thousands of tons of sand that have swept up and properly disposed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 My dad used to say that nuclear power was supposed to be so cheap and safe that they would be able to heat the roads in the winter lol. Doh!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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