moneypitmike Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: You sound like Corey now Perhaps, but I'd drive to Camden rather than Brattleboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Lol at infighting over anything a week out. Ray needs Bergs edibles. Lol Long week of tracking while the deck pops from cold expansion. Minus 30 departure incoming Hi Lars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 It looks like we are finally entering an extremely favorable pattern starting around the 14-16th. The Pacific jet retraction will take place during that time, and the +PNA/-EPO will be able to strengthen and remain stable thanks to a semi-permanent Aleutian ULL: This pattern is pretty much a complete 180 from what we saw for most of December, as there is cross-polar flow established that continues throughout much, if not all of the month. This pattern is highly reminiscent of the 2013-15 winters, where there were extreme arctic outbreaks as well as increased storminess to go along with it. Now, this pattern is certainly not one that you'd normally see in a Nina, and here's why: Note the negative height anomalies in the S US along with the split flow W of S CA. This signals that the STJ will be open for business, which is rare in -ENSO winters where the northern stream is dominant and the STJ is often nowhere to be found. The main reason, at least to me, as to why this pattern is so potent is because of the split flow. There will be highly amplified shortwaves rolling S off of the western ridging that will be able to phase with cutoff lows and other pieces of energy from the southern stream. This is accomplished by the W ridging being a bit more poleward than usual: it allows for significant cross-polar flow, but it also keeps the STJ open. This is often how we get our largest storms. There is also an immense cold supply here, as our air will be sourced from Siberia. Hints of transient -NAO blocking have also been showing up on the OP runs, and there's some on the ENS means as well. Transient blocks are really all you need when it comes to large storms, as we've seen in the past. Overall, this is just a loaded pattern and I would honestly be quite surprised if there isn't a MECS (or two!) between the 15th and the end of the month. Our next threat is around the 15th, and there's already a lot of phasing potential there. We will likely have to wait until after the 20th for the pattern to mature a bit, but a KU is certainly on the table. 18 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Wentzadelphia said: Mother of God.jpg Lol, push that thing 150 miles west and let's shut down the eastern seaboard. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Yeah it seems like Friday is the storm not Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol at infighting over anything a week out. Ray needs Bergs edibles. Lol Long week of tracking while the deck pops from cold expansion. Minus 30 departure incoming Hi Lars My house was making all kinds of crazy expansion noises last night. It went from 17 to 32 in less than 10 mins last night. HVN obs. 23.20 17.6 N 0 23:25 21.2 SW 6.9 23:30 32 S 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSC97wxnut Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Temps really rocketing up. 28.8 to 30.1 in the last 40 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: It looks like we are finally entering an extremely favorable pattern starting around the 14-16th. The Pacific jet retraction will take place during that time, and the +PNA/-EPO will be able to strengthen and remain stable thanks to a semi-permanent Aleutian ULL: This pattern is pretty much a complete 180 from what we saw for most of December, as there is cross-polar flow established that continues throughout much, if not all of the month. This pattern is highly reminiscent of the 2013-15 winters, where there were extreme arctic outbreaks as well as increased storminess to go along with it. Now, this pattern is certainly not one that you'd normally see in a Nina, and here's why: Note the negative height anomalies in the S US along with the split flow W of S CA. This signals that the STJ will be open for business, which is rare in -ENSO winters where the northern stream is dominant and the STJ is often nowhere to be found. The main reason, at least to me, as to why this pattern is so potent is because of the split flow. There will be highly amplified shortwaves rolling S off of the western ridging that will be able to phase with cutoff lows and other pieces of energy from the southern stream. This is accomplished by the W ridging being a bit more poleward than usual: it allows for significant cross-polar flow, but it also keeps the STJ open. This is often how we get our largest storms. There is also an immense cold supply here, as our air will be sourced from Siberia. Hints of transient -NAO blocking have also been showing up on the OP runs, and there's some on the ENS means as well. Transient blocks are really all you need when it comes to large storms, as we've seen in the past. Overall, this is just a loaded pattern and I would honestly be quite surprised if there isn't a MECS (or two!) between the 15th and the end of the month. Our next threat is around the 15th, and there's already a lot of phasing potential there. We will likely have to wait until after the 20th for the pattern to mature a bit, but a KU is certainly on the table. Good animations there. The STJ is an interesting addition recently. It should make things really interesting. Northern stream is still dominant which is good for New England (unlike some years when it’s congrats M.A.) but adding extra STJ moisture could make it more exciting. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me in VT Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, moneypitmike said: Perhaps, but I'd drive to Camden rather than Brattleboro. Come on up this way! Had to Brattleboro and head up route 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: It looks like we are finally entering an extremely favorable pattern starting around the 14-16th. The Pacific jet retraction will take place during that time, and the +PNA/-EPO will be able to strengthen and remain stable thanks to a semi-permanent Aleutian ULL: This pattern is pretty much a complete 180 from what we saw for most of December, as there is cross-polar flow established that continues throughout much, if not all of the month. This pattern is highly reminiscent of the 2013-15 winters, where there were extreme arctic outbreaks as well as increased storminess to go along with it. Now, this pattern is certainly not one that you'd normally see in a Nina, and here's why: Note the negative height anomalies in the S US along with the split flow W of S CA. This signals that the STJ will be open for business, which is rare in -ENSO winters where the northern stream is dominant and the STJ is often nowhere to be found. The main reason, at least to me, as to why this pattern is so potent is because of the split flow. There will be highly amplified shortwaves rolling S off of the western ridging that will be able to phase with cutoff lows and other pieces of energy from the southern stream. This is accomplished by the W ridging being a bit more poleward than usual: it allows for significant cross-polar flow, but it also keeps the STJ open. This is often how we get our largest storms. There is also an immense cold supply here, as our air will be sourced from Siberia. Hints of transient -NAO blocking have also been showing up on the OP runs, and there's some on the ENS means as well. Transient blocks are really all you need when it comes to large storms, as we've seen in the past. Overall, this is just a loaded pattern and I would honestly be quite surprised if there isn't a MECS (or two!) between the 15th and the end of the month. Our next threat is around the 15th, and there's already a lot of phasing potential there. We will likely have to wait until after the 20th for the pattern to mature a bit, but a KU is certainly on the table. Thanks great writeup. Totally on board with your thinking. Certainly has that 13 to 15 look. All aboard the weenie train. We are headed towards Epicosity city, last train leaves the 17th. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah it seems like Friday is the storm not Monday Nah that's not the one. Ctease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Still looks like a potential icing threat as most areas still in mid 20’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah it seems like Friday is the storm not Monday Maybe even Thursday night? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Nah that's not the one. Ctease I happen to think it’s going to snow Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Maybe even Thursday night? Yes sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Well, the driveway and walks are officially a sheet of ice. Freezing drizzle and snow grains 26° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Maybe even Thursday night? He loves rushing stuff in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Reading back thru the overnight posts , there definitely was a couple guys reading issues of High Times .. lots of erratic behavior 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The freezing rain is rushing in today 25F and light rain. Things will get icy quickly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Had a brief period of sleet around 7am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: I happen to think it’s going to snow Friday Hope so Senioŕ Kevin. Bring back the Rev!! 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Scooter wheres the Rev prayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 24° FZRA It’s coming down hard enough that it’s sticking to surfaces but not so much to the trees branches or wires etc. The roads are going to be a mess for a little while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: 24° FZRA It’s coming down hard enough that it’s sticking to surfaces but not so much to the trees branches or wires etc. The roads are going to be a mess for a little while. Congrats in the CAD zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, moneypitmike said: It's tough to lose it if you're getting 15". But if they're getting 40" 25 miles away--I would. Dive into the Kennebec. 4" here and nearly 4 feet in BGR? Fortunately, nothing like that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Had some snow grains earlier. 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Scooter wheres the Rev prayer May need to rewrite it again. Unless someone saved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 -ZR 18.6° 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, brooklynwx99 said: It looks like we are finally entering an extremely favorable pattern starting around the 14-16th. The Pacific jet retraction will take place during that time, and the +PNA/-EPO will be able to strengthen and remain stable thanks to a semi-permanent Aleutian ULL: This pattern is pretty much a complete 180 from what we saw for most of December, as there is cross-polar flow established that continues throughout much, if not all of the month. This pattern is highly reminiscent of the 2013-15 winters, where there were extreme arctic outbreaks as well as increased storminess to go along with it. Now, this pattern is certainly not one that you'd normally see in a Nina, and here's why: Note the negative height anomalies in the S US along with the split flow W of S CA. This signals that the STJ will be open for business, which is rare in -ENSO winters where the northern stream is dominant and the STJ is often nowhere to be found. The main reason, at least to me, as to why this pattern is so potent is because of the split flow. There will be highly amplified shortwaves rolling S off of the western ridging that will be able to phase with cutoff lows and other pieces of energy from the southern stream. This is accomplished by the W ridging being a bit more poleward than usual: it allows for significant cross-polar flow, but it also keeps the STJ open. This is often how we get our largest storms. There is also an immense cold supply here, as our air will be sourced from Siberia. Hints of transient -NAO blocking have also been showing up on the OP runs, and there's some on the ENS means as well. Transient blocks are really all you need when it comes to large storms, as we've seen in the past. Overall, this is just a loaded pattern and I would honestly be quite surprised if there isn't a MECS (or two!) between the 15th and the end of the month. Our next threat is around the 15th, and there's already a lot of phasing potential there. We will likely have to wait until after the 20th for the pattern to mature a bit, but a KU is certainly on the table. Excellent breakdown, very impressed, and i agree. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, dendrite said: -ZR 18.6° You can’t stop him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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