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January Medium/Long Range Discussion


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1 minute ago, yoda said:

I don't know about cutting inland.  Both the CMC and Euro were showing stout banana highs.  I think we're either at a flush hit or being pushed south.

That is probably the least likely option given what we see advertised on guidance right now, but with no blocking a more amplified wave could result in a hugger or inland runner.

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19 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said:


Are we the only highly superstitious people here? Didn’t they see what happened to the last storm!

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

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16 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

It’s only stupid if it doesn’t work…

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34 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

Amen

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0z Euro has a bit of a transient block, which is the best we can ask for up top right now, so I’m going to remain incredibly jittery unless we can get this thing under four days.

For the next few days, I want to see this thing ocsillate between a decent hit and sliding south. This this has a few runs of going too far NW and it’s light out for those of us in the corridor.

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40 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

It’s dumb because all it does it cause heartache and meltdowns among a large group of certain posters if it ends up failing.  And all that does is muck the place up and get people arguing again. There’s nothing wrong with - and I’d argue it’s much better - discussing a six-day yonder threat window in this thread.

If we get within four days and it’s still looking good, then fire up a thread.

My opinion and all, of course.

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1 minute ago, mattie g said:

It’s dumb because all it does it cause heartache and meltdowns among a large group of certain posters if it ends up failing.  And all that does is muck the place up and get people arguing again. There’s nothing wrong with - and I’d argue it’s much better - discussing a six-day yonder threat window in this thread.

If we get within four days and it’s still looking good, then fire up a thread.

My opinion and all, of course.

Thank you.  And this is exactly the method I follow for the most part. 

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8 minutes ago, mattie g said:

0z Euro has a bit of a transient block, which is the best we can ask for up top right now, so I’m going to remain incredibly jittery unless we can get this thing under four days.

For the next few days, I want to see this thing ocsillate between a decent hit and sliding south. This this has a few runs of going too far NW and it’s light out for those of us in the corridor.

From looking at the latest GEFS and EPS, I think the bigger risk at this point is that the trough doesn’t dig enough and this slides off to the south and we just get a glancing hit (or none at all).    

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1 hour ago, stormtracker said:

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

It's honestly the dumbest thing i have ever seen. With a lot of extremely bright people here it's even more surprising. In SNE they start the threads a week before all the time. Guess what, they get a shit ton more snow then us and it doesn't seem to be affecting them. 

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2 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

It's honestly the dumbest thing i have ever seen. With a lot of extremely bright people here it's even more surprising. In SNE they start the threads a week before all the time. Guess what, they get a shit ton more snow then us and it doesn't seem to be affecting them. 

Yeah, I've never understood it. If something seems like a legit threat, start a thread for it. If it falls apart, people will just stop posting about it. Not that complicated.

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1 hour ago, stormtracker said:

It's a kinda annoying and fully dumb thing going on here.  But whatever.  I mostly ignore yall about thread start times.   I limit how far in advance because...it's too far out in la la land for a threat, not because naturally occurring and non sentient thing can read a weather board and make "decisions" based on a thread.  

 

5 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

It's honestly the dumbest thing i have ever seen. With a lot of extremely bright people here it's even more surprising. In SNE they start the threads a week before all the time. Guess what, they get a shit ton more snow then us and it doesn't seem to be affecting them. 

Yeah, it's pretty stupid honestly.  Like you said, it's not as if the models or the atmosphere "listens" to MA weenies and says "oh, they started a thread too early, let's screw them over!!"  I can see why SNE might tend to start storm threads earlier simply due to their climatology and they have obviously more leeway in terms of setups for such things.  Here, it's kinda silly to start threads really early not due to "superstition", but because we typically are in a more tentative setup and it's better to wait for a bit more information/detail.  Otherwise you end up with a bunch of BS commentary going on as things waver back and forth.

ETA:  The only times I recall starting threads relatively earlier are for the big events (Feb. 2010, Jan. 2016).  But that's because at the time there was such a strong agreement and signal across essentially all models and ensembles, so it made sense.

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21 minutes ago, jaydreb said:

From looking at the latest GEFS and EPS, I think the bigger risk at this point is that the trough doesn’t dig enough and this slides off to the south and we just get a glancing hit (or none at all).    

We should go back to a week ago and see the comments to today’s storm.  :P 

Of course every setup is different but we basically said the same thing last week.

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IMO, figuring out what happens near Baja California is key. The 6z gfs is a miss because it cuts off and leaves energy behind there. FWIW, the 12z NAM would've been a miss as  well. Leaves energy behind. The 6z euro would have been good most likely. Very similar to 0z does not leave energy behind at 90 hours. Only 84-90 hours out to figuring it out. Something has to give!

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11 minutes ago, nj2va said:

We should go back to a week ago and see the comments to today’s storm.  :P 

Of course every setup is different but we basically said the same thing last week.

I always welcome a storm that looks suppressed on guidance until even the short-term -- a true snowstorm for the Carolinas is so rare and Virginia usually reaps a lot of the benefits.

Anyway, 06z GEFS. Right where I want it.

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4 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said:

I always welcome a storm that looks suppressed on guidance until even the short-term -- a true snowstorm for the Carolinas is so rare and Virginia usually reaps a lot of the benefits.

Anyway, 06z GEFS. Right where I want it.

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True but this is what it looked like the run before.  Anyway, this is all moot since we’ll get a new run in an hour.  
 

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