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January Medium/Long Range Discussion


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4 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

I don't think it is wise to get to invested in this storm yet. Just 24 hours ago we thought this had little to no shot of going up the coast, now we are worried about to much amplification. Really shows how this pattern is a little too complex for he models to handle well at range.

Us? Invested in a potential D6 MECS? never. 

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3 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

Sorry Winter Wx Lvr, it's time for a thread.  Trends are not great already, so nobody can blame the thread.

Yeah that’s fine. But I was gonna post a request that nobody starts a new long range thread. Got a good mojo going. Let this one run and I’ll start a new one for February at the right time.

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7 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

I don't think it is wise to get to invested in this storm yet. Just 24 hours ago we thought this had little to no shot of going up the coast, now we are worried about to much amplification. Really shows how this pattern is a little too complex for he models to handle well at range.

Lol x a million

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3 hours ago, WxMan1 said:

If we are, then it's about damn time. Our last El Niño was 6 years ago. We are due. 

CPC maps are stronger, they have +6c in the central subsurface. history shows not much correlation, although 87-88 was negative in the subsurface during El Nino, and that was followed by a Strong La Nina. 

re: the storm, Well, it's 25 degrees right now. 

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Build the pattern and the snow chances will come.  We do this every time.  The snow always lags the pattern because there typically isn't a storm threat the minute there is some blue over the east coast.  Yet every time were waiting for a good pattern the instant it shows up at day 15 people start getting frustrated when there isn't dark colors on the snow maps.  Besides the fact those things are pretty awful to use in general, look at this week as an example.  It's the 3rd wave/amplification of the trough in the east that is the first chance to put down snowfall.  And there are likely 4-5 more waves after that coming in this pattern.  But when this weeks pattern was at day 10-15 the snow maps weren't responding yet because it was too soon.  

 

Not taking any victory laps...those maps still don't mean anything other than that there ARE threats and will be opportunities to track in this pattern.  We still need some luck and for one of them to produce.  But I lol when some get worried if the snow means aren't responding when the good pattern is still not even starting until a week out.  

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12 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Build the pattern and the snow chances will come.  We do this every time.  The snow always lags the pattern because there typically isn't a storm threat the minute there is some blue over the east coast.  Yet every time were waiting for a good pattern the instant it shows up at day 15 people start getting frustrated when there isn't dark colors on the snow maps.  Besides the fact those things are pretty awful to use in general, look at this week as an example.  It's the 3rd wave/amplification of the trough in the east that is the first chance to put down snowfall.  And there are likely 4-5 more waves after that coming in this pattern.  But when this weeks pattern was at day 10-15 the snow maps weren't responding yet because it was too soon.  

 

Not taking any victory laps...those maps still don't mean anything other than that there ARE threats and will be opportunities to track in this pattern.  We still need some luck and for one of them to produce.  But I lol when some get worried if the snow means aren't responding when the good pattern is still not even starting until a week out.  

to be fair--the Jan 3-4 storm that dropped 15 in Central Virginia occurred on the first day of the pattern change lol

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3 hours ago, North Balti Zen said:

I have been on that same question as I am driving to Cincinnati for the Bengals playoff game at 4:30 pm Saturday. I think the progression on the potential system is Sunday into Monday. My brother and I have made tentative plans to make the full drive back to Baltimore immediately following the game just in case. 

Good luck as well!  Driving back after a night game would not happen especially with sitting outside in single to teen temp's for 10 hours or so but will get up first crack of dawn to make it back hopefully before (if it) starts.

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6 minutes ago, Ji said:

to be fair--the Jan 3-4 storm that dropped 15 in Central Virginia occurred on the first day of the pattern change lol

I would argue that storm happened during a transition between patterns.   It was a trailing wave on a front with an initial storm that cut well NW of us.  The next storm was the same situation with a cutter followed by a wave that took advantage of perfect spacing.  We can get lucky with those even in just a mediocre pattern so long as there is cold lurking around, and this year we have that.  The pacific driving pattern didnt really set in until this week following the cold front yesterday imo.  

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