northpittweather Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Well i have been seeing this storm on the models for several days while i was watching the possible east coast storm This storm looks like a classic spring time system, this storm seems like it could pump warm moist air the whole way up to the lakes, so this could be a possible severe weather maker in the Midwest, Ohio Valley, and possibly southern lakes Could be like the storm system that produced tornadoes in early January a few years back in 2008 GFS Model EURO Model GFS 850mb wind speed map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Looks disgusting. Would rid most of the snowpack . So this means the block will at least be destroyed right? lol. Its just a little confusing to a snowlover like me. Well below normal temps and constant snowcover with this block is "bad", and the block being destroyed is "good", with its first course of action a spring-like storm? I hope it means good things down the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*IndyMeso* Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Im glad you started this thread. I have been noticing this as well. If everything pans out we could see some really nice warm temperatures with a good pump of moisture into the OV. I know all the snowlovers will hate it but at least it shakes things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_IN_Wx Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Very good. I'll take rain/embedded thunder/warmth over cloudy/dry/cold any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Looks disgusting. Would rid most of the snowpack . So this means the block will at least be destroyed right? lol. Its just a little confusing to a snowlover like me. Well below normal temps and constant snowcover with this block is "bad", and the block being destroyed is "good", with its first course of action a spring-like storm? I hope it means good things down the road... While cold and constant snowcover is nice, even you have to admit other than the one storm things have been pretty boring around here accumulating snow-wise. If reloading the pattern and entering a more active pattern means we lose the snowpack temporarily, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*IndyMeso* Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 "Could be like the storm system that produced tornadoes in early January a few years back in 2008" To go on here, 74 tornadoes were confirmed from January 8-11 with some of the hardest hit areas being Missouri and Arkansas. The highest rated tornado was an EF3 (8 total). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 While cold and constant snowcover is nice, even you have to admit other than the one storm things have been pretty boring around here accumulating snow-wise. If reloading the pattern and entering a more active pattern means we lose the snowpack temporarily, then so be it. Boring yes. But perfect for Christmas. I mean even the rooftops have all remained snowcovered, so its not like the snow looks too old. It just really adds to the time of year. I may not be as forgiving of the boringness if it was Jan or Feb lol. IF this means better things to come, then absolutely so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpittweather Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 Im glad you started this thread. I have been noticing this as well. If everything pans out we could see some really nice warm temperatures with a good pump of moisture into the OV. I know all the snowlovers will hate it but at least it shakes things up It's been so cold all over the northern part of the country for over a month now, a warm up and a system like this seemed like a possibility temps are showing 40s - 50s going to the lakes, could be underestimated possibly I want some our severe weather guys to come on and tell us what they think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It's been so cold all over the northern part of the country for over a month now, a warm up and a system like this seemed like a possibility temps are showing 40s - 50s going to the lakes, could be underestimated possibly I want some our severe weather guys to come on and tell us what they think There's still a pretty deep snowpack across these regions, which will hamper the true WAA/instability at the surface somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Early storm thread means no storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 There's still a pretty deep snowpack across these regions, which will hamper the true WAA/instability at the surface somewhat. Totally and completely wrong. We've melted deeper snowpacks in as much or lesser time. See: January 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpittweather Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 Early storm thread means no storm You know a thread means the storm is possible, that is the word "possible" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Early storm thread means no storm This storm is a lock, no question about it. And while the track is in question, everyone along/south of I-80 and east of the Mississippi may as well forget about snow potential this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Totally and completely wrong. We've melted deeper snowpacks in as much or lesser time. See: January 2008. Yeah, a day before we had tornado warnings up in Mount Pleasant with that event, we had 4 inches of glacier, WWA/rain/fog ate that away in under 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Yeah, a day before we had tornado warnings up in Mount Pleasant with that event, we had 4 inches of glacier, WWA/rain/fog ate that away in under 24 hours. See my post in the general december thread. We have some foggy days coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpittweather Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 This storm is a lock, no question about it. And while the track is in question, everyone along/south of I-80 and east of the Mississippi may as well forget about snow potential this time. here where i am i have had a month of snow and flurries, i need some warm air to get a break this threat seems like it will evolve into a severe weather thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 The12-18z GFS ensemble spread is pretty much all over the place on this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 See my post in the general december thread. We have some foggy days coming up. Yeah its going to get thick out there, especially areas with some heavy glaciers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northpittweather Posted December 24, 2010 Author Share Posted December 24, 2010 The12-18z GFS ensemble spread is pretty much all over the place on this storm. the reason why i made the thread was the storm has been on the map for 3 days on moth major models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Yeah its going to get thick out there, especially areas with some heavy glaciers. Heavy winter fog during intense WAA with good snowpack are some of my favorite environments, gloomy but in a real cook kind of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Heavy winter fog during intense WAA with good snowpack are some of my favorite environments, gloomy but in a real cook kind of way. I like it especially if I'm on Mids then it gives me some weather to worry about and passes time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Eh, my 3-4" snowpack will stick around for another week, then degrade, and Christmas will be over with, so white Christmas, check. Some folks have a very thin snowpack and wouldn't care anyways if it all melted. Though I'd dream of a winter-long snowpack, its inevitable that it will melt, so why not increase the chance of a large storm ejecting out of the SW, like 07-08, even if that means rain, t'storms, p-type problems galore, and the chance of a sizable snowstorm? Or at least have the chance of getting a clipper to track north without worrying about it shredding to pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Heavy winter fog during intense WAA with good snowpack are some of my favorite environments, gloomy but in a real cook kind of way. Agreed. There's something really creepy yet cool at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Heavy winter fog during intense WAA with good snowpack are some of my favorite environments, gloomy but in a real cook kind of way. swype FTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I noticed a few of the 18z GFS ensembles trended colder with this system. It'll be interesting to see how that lead clipper traversing central Canada D5-6 affects where the sprawling arctic sfc high sets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeenerWx Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Heavy winter fog during intense WAA with good snowpack are some of my favorite environments, gloomy but in a real cook kind of way. I'm kind-of looking forward to this warmth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnweather Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Could be quite the blizzard for someone in the cold air. Will be interesting to see where that sets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Doesn't look all too warm up here. Giant ice storm? We had one of those not too many years ago. I think that storm in '08 was ice up here. We went out and just about snapped our arms and legs on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnweather Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Ice storm is certainly a possibility. It would be crippling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmaxweather Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Keep an eye on a possible ice storm with this one for folks closer to I 70 and north... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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