RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Burghblizz said: Nice regional breakdown of updated totals. Mostly 8+ In the immediate Pgh area. You can see our 12+ that just slid west, but also where the lower totals were SE. That looks pretty close to NWS forecast. We knew the higher totals where likely to be NW. Last night I thought this might bust, but it didn't, it was maybe on the lower end of the ranges but you don't just look at the biggest number and run with it. You can lament the what ifs / what could have been or just enjoy what we got. I experienced 2 different heavy bands of snow, met the range of snow forecast, it's cold and snowing still after the storm. I'd call that a win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: Yeah, the county got 6-8 inches. Ross there was a report of 7 inches and that sounds about right....however we did not hit warning criteria on snow as that is 6 inches in 12 hours. Hey, maybe one day we can actually get a storm where we don't look 50 miles away and they get significantly more snow. I think 6" should be warning regardless of storm duration, especially in the City, as they never clean streets, so it stays dangerous for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Any chance we see any lake effect today? NAM and HRRR showed hints of it. If the NAM says it, it shall be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Based on the number of 8” and 9” reports in AGC, it definitely hit the “8 in 24 hr” warning criteria in Allegheny and certainly Beaver and Butler. The public forecasts were very much validated, even if on the low to mid side. I also thought eastern suburbs did what I thought. Just thought city and west would avoid the dry slot, but wasn’t meant to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ahoff said: If the NAM says it, it shall be. We will see. Would be nice to get some squalls and 35MPH gusts. That said a west wind isn't the best set up for LES for us and it seems we have had less and less LE in general the last several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, wstaude said: I measured 5.5" in the West End. It's compacted a bit from the sleet, but I suspect not very much since the sleet came early in the event. Staying up to watch the snow and hearing tinking sounds at 12:30AM made me a bit physically ill. Not gonna lie, I was stewing most of the evening. Had to step away, and catch up on some streaming. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, TimB84 said: I’m sure there are houses for sale in Beaver County, where it snows more than it does here, you just have to look. I moved to Cranberry this past year (SW corner of Butler county, but only a few miles from Beaver border). No, snow wasn’t the reason, but being a little shielded from the WTOD was in the back of my mind :-) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Any chance we see any lake effect today? NAM and HRRR showed hints of it. There are some bands evident on radar mixed in with the steady light snow / flurries currently. Looks like a decent one might go over me shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rd9108 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Maybe that volcano eruption will shake things up and cause a massive blizzard Ala 1993 to strike again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Serious question before I step away, how many blizzard warnings in the past 30 years has Pittsburgh had??? Seems like we have trouble getting the extreme winds with heavy snow being so far away from the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordo74 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Ended up with 8" here in Ross before the wind started blowing. All in all, a great snow. Sure it didn't hit a foot and we weren't in the bullseye, but this was a good hit. Onto the next one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Serious question before I step away, how many blizzard warnings in the past 30 years has Pittsburgh had??? Seems like we have trouble getting the extreme winds with heavy snow being so far away from the coast. I honestly think one, 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 In the end, 6-12" ended up being the right call. We didn't hit the maxima in terms of potential, but all the warning signs were there. Sleet and wind cut down on ratios and snow growth. As I stated a couple days ago, we needed that reinforcement shot of cold air to keep the 850s from roasting. We just didn't have the proper placement of high pressure to prevent it. I'd have to double check but I imagine the upper level low also gained more latitude than modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Serious question before I step away, how many blizzard warnings in the past 30 years has Pittsburgh had??? Seems like we have trouble getting the extreme winds with heavy snow being so far away from the coast. ‘93 of course. Westmoreland and Fayette had them during the second (smaller) storm in February 2010. While the totals were more modest than the first one, the winds were howling. Before ‘93, it would have been one of the Jan ‘78 storms. And before that, Nov ‘50, unless one of those bigger ones in the 60’s had the criteria. But of course those days were different as far as warnings and criteria. But I’d say that’s a quarter century type happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Nice band coming through with some blowing snow. A little Icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This thread was 7 pages long when the GFS first picked up this storm. It’s now 53. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 15 hours ago, north pgh said: If the NAM called this so far we have to be optimistic that it will verify over night. I'm still thinking between 1:00 am and mid morning we will be pleasantly surprised with some more. 14 hours ago, north pgh said: The NAM shows the dry slot filling in around 1:00 am and steady snow until lunch time tomorrow. It looks like 1/2 inch an hour rates which would get us there. Hey it's been the best model by far. The NAM did a great job of nailing this storm. (I also did not want to believe it when all along it was the only model defining the dry slot and mixing. We all fall into the trap of rooting for the model that scores best for our area and throwing out the worst) For all the old-timers like myself I always remember the "great Joe DeNardo" saying he never started quoting snow amounts until 24-48 hours before a storm and this is why. Now TWC and all the local mets are posting model maps that are all over the place with snow totals and it gets the public and all of us excited and scared for a storm. There is more than a snow map on a model and we all know how our topography factors in. As much as some of us our disappointed the NWS knows more than us and they were not perfect but the 1-3 and 5-9 overnight ended up pretty decent calls. After the way this winter has gone ... I have 7-8 inches of snow on the ground and in the air and it's cold. Let's enjoy it till the next one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This thread was 7 pages long when the GFS first picked up this storm. It’s now 53.Haha love this. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 From what I have seen, biggest total from the storm is Ashtabula. The very northeastern corner of Ohio. 25.5”. What a wild night on the lake shore . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Euro gives us something to track for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mailman said: Euro gives us something to track for Saturday. Yeah but seems like we would need a faster phase and negative tilted trough. Something to watch and see what the ensembles show. The gfs is a slider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecanem Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Lake effect bands have not stopped all day at seven springs. Add to that 30+ mph winds. Been a wild day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 33 minutes ago, north pgh said: The NAM did a great job of nailing this storm. (I also did not want to believe it when all along it was the only model defining the dry slot and mixing. We all fall into the trap of rooting for the model that scores best for our area and throwing out the worst) For all the old-timers like myself I always remember the "great Joe DeNardo" saying he never started quoting snow amounts until 24-48 hours before a storm and this is why. Now TWC and all the local mets are posting model maps that are all over the place with snow totals and it gets the public and all of us excited and scared for a storm. There is more than a snow map on a model and we all know how our topography factors in. As much as some of us our disappointed the NWS knows more than us and they were not perfect but the 1-3 and 5-9 overnight ended up pretty decent calls. After the way this winter has gone ... I have 7-8 inches of snow on the ground and in the air and it's cold. Let's enjoy it till the next one. To be fair the NWS threw the NAM out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Yeah but seems like we would need a faster phase and negative tilted trough. Something to watch and see what the ensembles show. The gfs is a slider. This storm was ots at first and here we are now. Could see something from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghPirates27 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Ended up unofficially with 8-9” here. I will take that any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This storm was ots at first and here we are now. Could see something from it.This is a very good point. It was remarkable watching the trend in the storm track from run to run. Before we knew it the track was straight up the apps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, MikeB_01 said: This is a very good point. It was remarkable watching the trend in the storm track from run to run. Before we knew it the track was straight up the apps. I actually ignored the storm for awhile, because I saw how far south it was and figured it never make it up to us. Can't count it out this year I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Looks like the 24 hour total at PIT was 9.1” (3.5 yesterday and 5.6 today). I’d say this thing panned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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