Ahoff Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, TimB said: You only get 3 months where you can reasonably expect to get any appreciable snowfall, and two of them were complete and total garbage this year. Despite a rockin’ January, our only hope to even get to normal snowfall for the season is a 1993 redux in March. I just can't get too bothered by it anymore. Of course I want tons of snow and cold for three months, but it's always been unrealistic. We'll have it again one day, just gotta wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimB said: You only get 3 months where you can reasonably expect to get any appreciable snowfall, and two of them were complete and total garbage this year. Despite a rockin’ January, our only hope to even get to normal snowfall for the season is a 1993 redux in March. No doubt wasting cold is a disappointment. Getting 5 inches of rain but hitting average or below average temperatures for any winter month could easily be considered frustrating. They are just saying that scenario does not constitute a torch in terms of temperatures. The winter overall to hit average snowfall is needing a more and more extreme storm to make up the difference but nothing we can do about it. Not saying this to you directly but just in general we all need to just enjoy what snow we do get. We all know our climo here and keeping expectations in check goes a long way towards finding the silver linings. We did have that solid stretch in January with sustained snow cover and several snow globe type days. This hobby really is a what have you done for me lately thing, but you need to roll with the punches, not compare your yard to somewhere that averages double and just make an effort to take a step back and enjoy when things are going well and get outside with the kids / dogs / yourself and take it all in because we all know it won't last. Bickering and arguing over it only makes the atmosphere in the thread childish and miserable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, RitualOfTheTrout said: No doubt wasting cold is a disappointment. Getting 5 inches of rain but hitting average or below average temperatures for any winter month could easily be considered frustrating. They are just saying that scenario does not constitute a torch in terms of temperatures. The winter overall to hit average snowfall is needing a more and more extreme storm to make up the difference but nothing we can do about it. Not saying this to you directly but just in general we all need to just enjoy what snow we do get. We all know our climo here and keeping expectations in check goes a long way towards finding the silver linings. We did have that solid stretch in January with sustained snow cover and several snow globe type days. This hobby really is a what have you done for me lately thing, but you need to roll with the punches, not compare your yard to somewhere that averages double and just make an effort to take a step back and enjoy when things are going well and get outside with the kids / dogs / yourself and take it all in because we all know it won't last. Bickering and arguing over it only makes the atmosphere in the thread childish and miserable. You’re right, it didn’t belong in this thread, there’s a complaint thread for a reason. But yeah, these all day rainy days make me grouchy as all hell even in July and even more so during months when it should be snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Definitely easier to stomach whenever even places like Butler county are only getting like 1-3 inches of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Well there’s an ice storm warning here for the laurels…what fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 0z and especially 6z GFS runs are a parade of storms that we’re on the wrong side of. Also, I saw a few pellets of sleet on the ground when I was outside this morning, which will probably be the only non-rain precip that occurs with this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Well there’s an ice storm warning here for the laurels…what fun Wanna move back to Bethel? LolSent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 In other news, this will be the first February 24th since 2015 where the high temperature wasn’t at least 12 degrees above normal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Special Weather Statement National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 934 PM EST Thu Feb 24 2022 OHZ049-050-PAZ020-021-029-073-WVZ001>003-250445- Harrison-Jefferson OH-Beaver-Allegheny-Washington-Westmoreland- Hancock-Brooke-Ohio- Including the cities of Cadiz, Steubenville, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Washington, Canonsburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Lower Burrell, Latrobe, Monessen, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, and Wheeling 934 PM EST Thu Feb 24 2022 ...Patchy Freezing Rain this Evening... Freezing rain will be possible this evening in locations where temperatures have fallen to freezing or below. This will be short- lived as temperatures will begin to warm over the next several hours and change precipitation to all rain. Hazardous travel conditions will be possible over the next several hours this evening on untreated roads where road temperatures are below freezing. Otherwise, accumulating ice will be mainly on elevated surfaces. Use caution if traveling this morning, and allow extra time to reach your destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 32 degrees and still raining. Light glaze of ice on patio furniture and grill cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Look on the bright side this underperformed in a lot of places. Nobody really got anything than 10 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: Look on the bright side this underperformed in a lot of places. Nobody really got anything than 10 inches Can’t underperform if you were never in it, lol. But maybe if someone got .7” of rain instead of .9” it could under perform. I’ll stay tuned to see if that’s the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ahoff said: Can’t underperform if you were never in it, lol. But maybe if someone got .7” of rain instead of .9” it could under perform. I’ll stay tuned to see if that’s the case. I think he means the storm as a whole, across the northeast. On another note, PIT got 1.07” of rain, which brings our monthly total to 5.10”, making this the 7th wettest February of all time (2018, 1887, 1891, 1956, 1890, 2008*). *2008 was at 4.97” through 2/28 but recorded 0.48” on the 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, TimB said: I think he means the storm as a whole, across the northeast. On another note, PIT got 1.07” of rain, which brings our monthly total to 5.10”, making this the 7th wettest February of all time (2018, 1887, 1891, 1956, 1890, 2008*). *2008 was at 4.97” through 2/28 but recorded 0.48” on the 29th. I know that. But it’s not an underperformance for us, we weren’t in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Ahoff said: I know that. But it’s not an underperformance for us, we weren’t in it. No, if anything, it did exactly what it was supposed to. But I think the point is it’s easier to stomach these defeats when there were no big winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, TimB said: No, if anything, it did exactly what it was supposed to. But I think the point is it’s easier to stomach these defeats when there were no big winners. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Nice to see a little snow shower just before the sun goes down to whiten things up a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahoff Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 4 hours ago, TimB said: No, if anything, it did exactly what it was supposed to. But I think the point is it’s easier to stomach these defeats when there were no big winners. Not like we got less snow than forecast and the rest of the northeast was over performing. They underperformed and we weren’t invited to the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Hard to envision a scenario where winter isn’t over. We’ve currently had 1.6” from Feb 6 on. Outside of a couple years in the 1880s (which we all know I question the accuracy of), we’ve never had less than 3.6” from February 6 until the end of the snowfall season. Normally I’d say we can pick up 2” in March, but we’ve gotten barely half that the last two years combined and the pattern for this March doesn’t look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 36 minutes ago, TimB said: Hard to envision a scenario where winter isn’t over. We’ve currently had 1.6” from Feb 6 on. Outside of a couple years in the 1880s (which we all know I question the accuracy of), we’ve never had less than 3.6” from February 6 until the end of the snowfall season. Normally I’d say we can pick up 2” in March, but we’ve gotten barely half that the last two years combined and the pattern for this March doesn’t look good. March still has more snow on average than December, even with the most recent 30 year average. So winters ending with a dud isn’t a long term trend just yet. I’ll be out of town late next week, so I’ve had that targeted for awhile for a big storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Burghblizz said: March still has more snow on average than December, even with the most recent 30 year average. So winters ending with a dud isn’t a long term trend just yet. I’ll be out of town late next week, so I’ve had that targeted for awhile for a big storm. Once 1993 drops out of that average in 2030 it’ll drop significantly. That 34.1 contributes over 1.1” to a 30 year average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, TimB said: Hard to envision a scenario where winter isn’t over. We’ve currently had 1.6” from Feb 6 on. Outside of a couple years in the 1880s (which we all know I question the accuracy of), we’ve never had less than 3.6” from February 6 until the end of the snowfall season. Normally I’d say we can pick up 2” in March, but we’ve gotten barely half that the last two years combined and the pattern for this March doesn’t look good. Surprised that they didn’t get any accumulations over the last couple days. We had at least a half inch, if not 3/4 of an inch in my backyard. Kind of surprised with the trace yesterday too, as there was certainly a light dusting near the airport which normally means .1 or .2 on the snow board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 minus say a lucky timing of cold and precip looks like any sustained winter is over. The teles are pretty bad now. I'm ready for spring and golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Yeah, it’s bad. A third straight completely atrocious end to winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, TimB said: Yeah, it’s bad. A third straight completely atrocious end to winter. ehh ill take last year early winter over snow in March and april Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ahoff Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Rd9108 said: Can’t possibly be, winter was declared over. Not one more flake of snow will be falling, that’s a fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rd9108 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Ahoff said: Can’t possibly be, winter was declared over. Not one more flake of snow will be falling, that’s a fact. GFS doesn't really have this fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, Rd9108 said: GFS doesn't really have this fwiw. Yeah, it’s really just one last shred of hope for the winter that started in mid-January and ended a few days after the calendar flipped to February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 If by over you mean an end to any chance if sustained cold / snow cover / all snow events then I'd agree, but also state by this time of year that's probably true a majority of srasons. Definitely still reasonable to expect some overnight coatings or a well timed storm though for the next 6 weeks so not over by that metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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