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E PA/NJ/ DE Winter 2021-22 OBS Thread


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12 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

I would agree if it were a PD storm but for early January, after near record-breaking antecedent temps? It's a bit marginal.

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That was honestly my concern.  I capitalized today by threading the needle. (Barnegat NJ)  

 

I will be fishing in this lull tomorrow afternoon wednesday morning.  Water temps are still 43.5ish near the coast.  If I run 90 miles for bottom fish at the Wilmington Canyon, I still have 63 SST.  That's why we are still crushing tuna.  Unless we get a bomb or a similar slider, I get screwed .... and just have to take the dogs up to susquehanna to hunt instead.  Lol.  

 

Next one is for you.   I think she over performs, despite being a progressive track at the moment. 

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Just now, dseagull said:

That was honestly my concern.  I capitalized today by threading the needle. (Barnegat NJ)  

 

I will be fishing in this lull tomorrow afternoon wednesday morning.  Water temps are still 43.5ish near the coast.  If I run 90 miles for bottom fish at the Wilmington Canyon, I still have 63 SST.  That's why we are still crushing tuna.  Unless we get a bomb or a similar slider, I get screwed .... and just have to take the dogs up to susquehanna to hunt instead.  Lol.  

 

Next one is for you.   I think she over performs, despite being a progressive track at the moment. 

That's why I put up that fantasy GFS 1/16 storm.  As shown, it looks "juicy" and if there's enough cold air from the north (and the temps stay below or near normal the next 10 days vs above normal), it could sortof bomb out and provide some evaporative cooling back to the west.

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4 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

That's why I put up that fantasy GFS 1/16 storm.  As shown, it looks "juicy" and if there's enough cold air from the north (and the temps stay below or near normal the next 10 days vs above normal), it could sortof bomb out and provide some evaporative cooling back to the west.

Trending in that direction.   I'm looking forward to comparing tonight's globals with last nights globals, and then again with tomorrow nights runs.  

Wise professor once told me that past, present, future....is simply used knowledge, and many people refuse to be useful. 

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43 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

I would agree if it were a PD storm but for early January, after near record-breaking antecedent temps? It's a bit marginal.

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Those are normal SST for this time of year. And the airmass coming will be fresh cold.  Temps will be no issue based on the Euro track from 12Z

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1 hour ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Not with the surface wind vectors NNE as shown. Perfect spot and wind trajectory on that map. Speaking verbatim on the euro, not my call, but that look likely wouldn't be an issue 95 n and w.

Eta: 850 winds r actually NW. ecmwf_T850_neus_5.thumb.png.73fcd953678f1ba3b7759f8afa01007f.png

Concern might be for sleet (and we sure as hell had a lot of that last year).  Still have some time...

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10 minutes ago, Blizzard-on-GFS said:

Dumping snow in Manahawkin, NJ! Been a great storm down here. 

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I'm in Barnegat. (Waretown technically)   I keep thinking this edge is gonna slide out, but the pivot is dumping on us. We may EEK out a legit 9.5-10 5  inches

 

You are clearly in Beach Haven West.  I just got off the parkway from my hunting club.  Nassssttyyy 

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13 minutes ago, hazwoper said:

EDiT at AC it is 4 degrees F above normal.  Not to bad

We have different years where the expanse of gulf stream Eddies is smaller, but more intense, vice-versa.  The overall ocean heat index is difficult to calculate because of many variables, including depth, ambient air temp, flow...etc...

 

This year is nothing special.  Reminds me of some fishing conditions I had in the late 80s and early 90s.  Very wide spread flow off the GS.   The inshore SST is warmer for obvious reasons, but in still skeptical about the overall effect on a truly dynamic storm.   I'm genuinely interested in this next storm, despite closing in on 9 inches. I'd love to see a true Miller B this winter, for coastal implications.  Long duration events have always been my thing, unless we are talking real tropical systems.  

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17 minutes ago, dseagull said:

I'm in Barnegat. (Waretown technically)   I keep thinking this edge is gonna slide out, but the pivot is dumping on us. We may EEK out a legit 9.5-10 5  inches

 

You are clearly in Beach Haven West.  I just got off the parkway from my hunting club.  Nassssttyyy 

Yup you guessed correctly! And yeah man this last band is some of the heaviest rates I’ve seen all day. We might eek out another 1-3”.

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1 minute ago, Blizzard-on-GFS said:

Yup you guessed correctly! And yeah man this last band is some of the heaviest rates I’ve seen all day. We might eek out another 1-3”.

Nice.  Just had the heaviest band move in, with 40 mph wind as we speak.   Very thin on radar.   I'm impressed.  Busted wayyyy high on my thoughts. 

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12 minutes ago, Blizzard-on-GFS said:

 

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I live on a marina as well.  Gotta figure out how to downsize pics to post here.  Have some impressive 3 foot drifts over lawn furniture. Wind tunnel effect coming down the lagoon.  

 

Good storm.  May have another 20 min to hald hour to pick up another half inch or so. 

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well , the latest measurable snowfall record of Jan 13 looks to be broken the way these LR maps are going here in the LV.   Even in the heart of  benchmark LP location, the models indicate less than an inch of snow on Friday. It will take a miracle for all the models to even agree on a storm location right now.  I would just like to see the grass snow covered- i guess that is even too much to even ask.

 

They finally will  open Bear Creek trails in the few days as they are making snow like crazy right now. The Mountain looks like a blizzard is hitting it right now in these partly  sunny skies at sunset. 

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Finished up with a trace! :P  Temp is down to 28 with dp 14 and I know it may have still going on in some places after the report, but here was the PNS as of 4pm and you can see who really cashed in within the CWA (KPHL managed 0.5") -

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NOUS41 KPHI 032059
 PNSPHI
 DEZ001>004-MDZ012-015-019-020-NJZ001-007>010-012>027-PAZ054-055-060>062-070-
 071-101>106-040859-
 
 Public Information Statement
 National Weather Service Mount Holly NJ
 359 PM EST Mon Jan 3 2022
 
 ...UPDATED SNOWFALL REPORTS FOR MONDAY JANUARY 3RD...
 
 Location                     Amount    Time/Date       Provider             
 
 ...Delaware...
 
 ...Kent County...
 Hartly                       13.0 in   0238 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 SE Woodside                10.5 in   0317 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 2 WNW Frederica              10.3 in   0312 PM 01/03   Public               
 Woodside                     10.0 in   0315 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 WSW Dover Air Force Base   10.0 in   0320 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 3 S Kitts Hummock            7.7 in    0315 PM 01/03   Public               
 3 SW Magnolia                7.0 in    1145 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Dover                        7.0 in    1222 PM 01/03   Public               
 Smyrna                       7.0 in    1237 PM 01/03   Public               
 2 WSW Magnolia               6.0 in    0130 PM 01/03   Public               
 
 ...New Castle County...
 Middletown                   6.0 in    0333 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Summit Bridge                5.5 in    0204 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Middletown                   5.3 in    0156 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Middletown                   4.5 in    1130 AM 01/03   Public               
 2 WSW Summit Bridge          3.0 in    1058 AM 01/03   Public               
 Bear                         3.0 in    1226 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 New Castle County Airport    1.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   ASOS                 
 
 ...Sussex County...
 Georgetown                   12.0 in   0346 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 WSW Milton                 11.6 in   0213 PM 01/03   Public               
 Milford                      10.0 in   0230 PM 01/03   Public               
 2 SW Rehoboth Beach          6.0 in    0330 PM 01/03   Public               
 3 SW Long Neck               5.0 in    0105 PM 01/03   Public               
 Greenwood                    4.0 in    1003 AM 01/03   Public               
 Delmar                       1.5 in    1238 PM 01/03   Cocorahs             
 
 ...Maryland...
 
 ...Caroline County...
 Henderson                    11.0 in   0230 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Goldsboro                    10.0 in   0307 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 Greensboro                   9.8 in    0307 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 Henderson                    9.0 in    0307 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 2 SSE Templeville            9.0 in    0307 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 Preston                      8.0 in    0307 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 Denton                       7.0 in    0309 PM 01/03   Emergency Mngr       
 
 ...Kent County...
 Millington                   7.3 in    1230 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Queen Annes County...
 Stevensville                 9.0 in    0340 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Stevensville                 8.0 in    1230 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Kingstown                    7.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 2 NNE Starr                  6.9 in    1107 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 2 SW Stevensville            6.5 in    0300 PM 01/03   Public               
 
 ...Talbot County...
 Royal Oak                    8.0 in    1240 PM 01/03   CO-OP Observer       
 Easton                       5.5 in    0300 PM 01/03   Public               
 Easton                       5.0 in    0952 AM 01/03   Public               
 
 ...New Jersey...
 
 ...Atlantic County...
 Absecon                      13.0 in   0343 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 3 NE Hamilton Twp            12.0 in   0300 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Northfield                   11.0 in   0300 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 E Mays Landing             10.0 in   0252 PM 01/03   Public               
 Egg Harbor Twp               10.0 in   0302 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 NNE Somers Point           9.8 in    0205 PM 01/03   Public               
 Somers Point                 9.7 in    0130 PM 01/03   Public               
 Egg Harbor Twp               9.5 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Atlantic City International  9.5 in    0100 PM 01/03   ASOS                 
 Egg Harbor Twp               9.5 in    0130 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Northfield                   9.0 in    0200 PM 01/03   Broadcast Media      
 Egg Harbor Twp               8.6 in    0130 PM 01/03   Public               
 Hammonton                    8.5 in    0300 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Galloway Twp                 8.2 in    0109 PM 01/03   Public               
 Mays Landing                 8.0 in    1200 PM 01/03   Broadcast Media      
 Pleasantville                7.3 in    0103 PM 01/03   Broadcast Media      
 Northfield                   7.0 in    1237 PM 01/03   Public               
 Brigantine                   6.5 in    0300 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 3 SW Egg Harbor City         6.0 in    1232 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 NW Somers Point            5.5 in    0946 AM 01/03   Public               
 1 N Somers Point             5.0 in    1209 PM 01/03   Public               
 Absecon                      4.5 in    0955 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Egg Harbor Twp               4.0 in    1000 AM 01/03   Public               
 Egg Harbor City              4.0 in    1143 AM 01/03   Public               
 Buena                        4.0 in    1232 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Hammonton                    3.8 in    1238 PM 01/03   CO-OP Observer       
 Estell Manor                 3.0 in    0823 AM 01/03   CO-OP Observer       
 Egg Harbor City              1.5 in    0930 AM 01/03   Broadcast Media      
 Hamilton Twp                  T in     0254 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Burlington County...
 1 ESE Leisuretowne           2.8 in    0120 PM 01/03   NWS Employee         
 2 W Medford Twp.             2.0 in    1121 AM 01/03   Public               
 Lumberton                    0.8 in    0142 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Mount Holly WFO              0.6 in    0100 PM 01/03   Official NWS Obs     
 
 ...Camden County...
 Winslow Twp                  5.5 in    0130 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 SW Pine Hill               4.0 in    1200 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 WSW Lindenwold             4.0 in    0300 PM 01/03   Public               
 Gloucester Twp               3.8 in    0300 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Lindenwold                   3.5 in    0215 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Cherry Hill                  3.0 in    0103 PM 01/03   Public               
 Haddon Heights               1.6 in    1227 PM 01/03   Public               
 Bellmawr                     1.3 in    1200 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Cape May County...
 Ocean View                   11.3 in   0147 PM 01/03   Public               
 North Cape May               10.3 in   0200 PM 01/03   Public               
 Marmora                      9.7 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 WNW Rio Grande             9.0 in    1232 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 W Rio Grande               8.5 in    1228 PM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Cape May Court House         8.2 in    1240 PM 01/03   Public               
 Cape May                     8.2 in    0103 PM 01/03   Public               
 Seaville                     7.5 in    1157 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Petersburg                   7.0 in    1156 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 North Cape May               7.0 in    1213 PM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Green Creek                  6.0 in    1139 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 1 SSW Cape May Court House   6.0 in    1210 PM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Eldora                       6.0 in    1225 PM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Villas                       4.8 in    1039 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Goshen                       4.0 in    1031 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Ocean City                   4.0 in    1232 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Cape May Point               3.8 in    1144 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 NE Cape May Court House    3.0 in    1009 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 1 NNW Erma                   3.0 in    1022 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Cape May                     3.0 in    1040 AM 01/03   Amateur Radio        
 Tuckahoe                     2.0 in    0930 AM 01/03   Broadcast Media      
 
 ...Cumberland County...
 Millville                    6.3 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Newport                      6.0 in    0330 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Millville                    5.8 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 Cedarville                   5.5 in    0200 PM 01/03   Public               
 Millville                    5.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 2 W Rosenhayn                4.5 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Vineland                     2.7 in    1122 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 1 NNW Seabrook Farms         2.5 in    1125 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Millville                    2.2 in    1124 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Hopewell Twp.                2.2 in    1126 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Gloucester County...
 Franklinville                5.5 in    0330 PM 01/03   Public               
 Williamstown                 5.3 in    0248 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Washington Twp               5.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 Greenwich Twp                4.5 in    0250 PM 01/03   Public               
 Williamstown                 4.0 in    1130 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Mantua                       4.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 Glassboro                    3.4 in    1127 AM 01/03   Public               
 West Deptford Twp            3.4 in    0200 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 NE Glassboro               2.3 in    1047 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Ocean County...
 Barnegat Twp                 9.3 in    0314 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Little Egg Harbor Twp        7.2 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 NNE Beach Haven            6.0 in    0200 PM 01/03   Public               
 Barnegat                     5.8 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 Waretown                     5.5 in    0230 PM 01/03   Public               
 1 SSE Stafford Twp.          5.0 in    1230 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Forked River                 5.0 in    0317 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Stafford Twp.                4.0 in    1111 AM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 2 SSE Stafford Twp.          3.5 in    1100 AM 01/03   Public               
 Forked River                 3.0 in    1144 AM 01/03   Public               
 1 E Forked River             3.0 in    0100 PM 01/03   Public               
 Toms River                   2.5 in    0200 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Toms River                   2.0 in    0254 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Lanoka Harbor                1.7 in    1003 AM 01/03   Public               
 Harvey Cedars                1.0 in    0920 AM 01/03   Law Enforcement      
 Lakewood Twp                 0.5 in    0153 PM 01/03   Public               
 Brick                        0.5 in    0338 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Pennsylvania...
 
 ...Chester County...
 Glenmoore                     T in     0236 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 Exton                         T in     0319 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
 
 ...Philadelphia County...
 1 SE Point Breeze            1.8 in    0100 PM 01/03   Trained Spotter      
  null Philadelphia Internati 0.5 in    0100 PM 01/03   ASOS                 
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