MJO812 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Nam is really interesting at end of run. It nailed some events last year at its end range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Hurricane Agnes said: I noticed my snowdrops have sent up a couple inches of leaves (they aren't normally making an attempt until maybe during a February thaw or the end of February). I had been looking at NOAA's NCEI 30-year "norms" update data introduced this past May here - https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/noaa-delivers-new-us-climate-normals where you can start digging into the data from here - https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-based-station/us-climate-normals and there is a "quick access" link here - https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/us-climate-normals/ There are a bunch of stations in the dataset but for those that (I am guessing) have data back at least 30 years, for Chesco for example, Honey Brook's 30-year is this - https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/us-climate-normals/#dataset=normals-annualseasonal&timeframe=30&location=PA&station=USC00364047 Just something to throw out there (I know there are many data sources around). Mt. Holly joined in on the (almost) dismissal of that but haven't made it a "zero chance" yet in this morning's AFD. So far I have 0.24" in the bucket this morning and it's currently overcast with some stratus and mist and 43 with dp the same. While not 30 year norms always interesting to watch the cyclical patterns and smoothing that occurs when simply comparing decades....see the Chester County Snowfall history by decade since the 1890's below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: While not 30 year norms always interesting to watch the cyclical patterns and smoothing that occurs when simply comparing decades....see the Chester County Snowfall history by decade since the 1890's below What might start to impact the cycles is all the development that has gone on in Chester County over the past 30 years as farmers have sold land to developers and people have shifted to "exburbia" again (and by "again", it had been a "thing" but then recently started reversing before the pandemic as the Millennials started moving into lofts and whatnot in the urban areas). But the pandemic (and work from home options) apparently triggered a return to the less dense but soon-to-be-more-dense parts of the state including Chesco). Quote ‘A Perfect Storm’ Sparks an Explosion of Residential Development in Chester County By Kimberly McGuane Published: 4:06 am EST December 5, 2020Updated: 5:01 am EST December 5, 2020 Image via Monica Herndon, Philadelphia Inquirer. Despite the pandemic, Chester County continues to experience a construction boom as interest in new developments surpasses all expectations, writes Frank Fitzpatrick for The Philadelphia Inquirer. Lochiel Farm, a townhouse development near Exton Mall, had five times more applicants than homes after potential buyers were asked to view the models last year. “They had like 700 people lined up for 142 units,” said John Weller, West Whiteland Township’s director of planning and zoning. “And it’s not just there. It’s been crazy at all these new developments.” Residential development is exploding throughout the entire county, and West Whiteland is the best example of this. The township has benefited from the perfect combination of low-interest rates, zoning changes, improvements to SEPTA’s Exton rail station, easy access to the Pennsylvania Turnpike, the addition of new parks and trails, and an influx of retail and restaurants. “All those things created a perfect storm for us,” said Weller. <snip> https://vista.today/2020/12/a-perfect-storm-sparks-an-explosion-of-residential-development-in-chester-county/ It took awhile but once they got rid of the (traditional) office tower height restrictions in downtown Philly in the 1980s and many dozens of buildings were constructed that far surpassed the height of the William Penn statue atop City Hall tower, we still haven't had a below 0 temp registered at KPHL since 1994. This doesn't mean some strong PV lobe will never ooze down far enough to break that record run, but it's now been 27 years. I made it up to 53 as a high (after a 43 low) and even had some sun this afternoon. But the air has still been relatively juicy with current temp 48 and dp 47. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 With today and tomorrow both exceeding 50 degrees we will end the month with 12 days at 50+ here in Chester County PA This will only be good for the 18th most 50+ days in December since 1894 The Top 10 years with 50+ days are below: 2015 (19) / 1982 (16) / 1990 (16)/ 1899 (15) / 2001 (15) / 1895 (13) / 1913 (13) / 1948 (13) / 1956 (13) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Really can't believe we'll be in the 50s approaching 60 as we ring in the new year (midnight)....Dick Clark's rolling over in his grave. 48F Not busting on Dick but he totally missed 13, then 10 to 11 during the countdown. Dude did the best he could considering his health. I saw it live and thought I was screwed up, low and behold, Dick was messing with me. Quite funny and probably his best countdown... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SHpL599IZg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/25/2021 at 6:46 PM, RedSky said: Only reason I remember it is because that was the year we got snow days for being too cold for school. Heater busted at my grade school, had off as well. St Joseph grade school. (County line/Easton/611 Rd) .... 48F...getting foggy @ 11:20pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Foggy 47F....temps really didn't move overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Fog finally lifted although there is still some stratus around but the moisture being wrung out this morning was enough (between 6 - 7 am) to tip the bucket in the gauge. Currently overcast and 49 with dp 48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 Not to pile on but I read Paul Pastelok’s blog from AccuWx this morning -- he's going with +2 to +3 in January for our area. The weenie in me says it can still snow, we just need to time moisture with a cold shot. The realist in me says we don't do timing well. In other news, it's a balmy 49F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, JTA66 said: Not to pile on but I read Paul Pastelok’s blog from AccuWx this morning -- he's going with +2 to +3 in January for our area. The weenie in me says it can still snow, we just need to time moisture with a cold shot. The realist in me says we don't do timing well. In other news, it's a balmy 49F How do you have sun? But it's good to know it still is up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 The winter situation could be worse, the MA crew are hanging by a thread with Euro Lucy place holding the football as I speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, RedSky said: How do you have sun? But it's good to know it still is up there. The sun is wishful thinking. If it were out, it would be in the 60’s and I’d be mowing the lawn like Kamu suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Cloudy, gloomy 49F here, perfect halloween weather. In other news, the high for the Winter Classic in Minn tomorrow will be -3 and will fall during the game to a low of -15. We'll get a 1-2 day cold shot (30s) Mon/Tues then crank right back to 50 Wed. We can't sustain any sort of cold temps around here so snow is out of the question.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: Cloudy, gloomy 49F here, perfect halloween weather. In other news, the high for the Winter Classic in Minn tomorrow will be -3 and will fall during the game to a low of -15. We'll get a 1-2 day cold shot (30s) Mon/Tues then crank right back to 50 Wed. We can't sustain any sort of cold temps around here so snow is out of the question.... The subtropical beaches of Maryland, Virginia and southern Delaware are gonna need a shovel Charlie brown DC crew needs a chiropractor after the ECM run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 ECM took the late week snow north like the GFS at least I don't think winter can get any worse than this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolHandMike Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, JTA66 said: The sun is wishful thinking. If it were out, it would be in the 60’s and I’d be mowing the lawn like Kamu suggested. My wife's been hinting that our lawn is the longest in the neighborhood (was cut last just before Thanksgiving) but thus far I have refused to accept reality. How's that Adam Savage quote go? "I reject your reality and substitute my own" or something to that affect. Anyway, grey and 50°F beats 70 and sunny any day in my book, so at least there's that. Still not mowing the lawn though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, CoolHandMike said: My wife's been hinting that our lawn is the longest in the neighborhood (was cut last just before Thanksgiving) but thus far I have refused to accept reality. How's that Adam Savage quote go? "I reject your reality and substitute my own" or something to that affect. Anyway, grey and 50°F beats 70 and sunny any day in my book, so at least there's that. Still not mowing the lawn though. Agree there....had the outside Christmas lights on all day because it's so cloudy/dark it's almost night. 49F/Cloudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 8 hours ago, CoolHandMike said: My wife's been hinting that our lawn is the longest in the neighborhood (was cut last just before Thanksgiving) but thus far I have refused to accept reality. How's that Adam Savage quote go? "I reject your reality and substitute my own" or something to that affect. Anyway, grey and 50°F beats 70 and sunny any day in my book, so at least there's that. Still not mowing the lawn though. Pro tip (lol) - cut it to 2" height for the last mow. That way 3" of snow will cover it up real nice, and you won't have dark grass blades sticking up through it acting as little heat antennae (when the sun hits it). That's the concept anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Birds~69 said: Agree there....had the outside Christmas lights on all day because it's so cloudy/dark it's almost night. 49F/Cloudy We have lights on an evergreen out front. They'll probably be there into March, or at least until we get some snow. Looks nice with the snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 49F at midnight Happy Hot Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Happy New Year all - currently 50 and a dp 50 with some fog/mist as the stratus has started to descend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Happy New Year all! 49F.....fog returned along w/some sprinkles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, KamuSnow said: Pro tip (lol) - cut it to 2" height for the last mow. That way 3" of snow will cover it up real nice, and you won't have dark grass blades sticking up through it acting as little heat antennae (when the sun hits it). That's the concept anyway. Only weenies, including myself, would understand along w/making snow mounds and a bright ass perfectly position snow light.... 48F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolHandMike Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Birds~69 said: Only weenies, including myself, would understand along w/making snow mounds and a bright ass perfectly position snow light.... 48F Might still do if it needs it. Looks pretty dormant but with everything else still growing outside I may just bite the bullet and mow it this Sunday or Monday (if it's dry enough). Weird times. Saw actual snow in the desert (Mojave) before seeing snow at home. Last Feb's monster storms are giving me hope there is still something for us in this new year though. Here's hoping for a wondrous and snowy bottom end of 2022 everybody! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 51F with drizzle. Don’t think I’ll get a mow in today. Happy New Year everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, JTA66 said: 51F with drizzle. Don’t think I’ll get a mow in today. Happy New Year everyone!! I wouldn't sweat it - if you wait till next Saturday sunset is 7 minutes later, it will be more relaxed with the extra daylight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Happy New Year everybody! So Paul and LVwxhistorian, how often have we had a rainy New Years day, and did we get pummeled with snow from mid January on when it's happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Happy New Year!! Looking ahead past the Monday slider, another system looms for Thursday PM/Friday. Has been modeled for some time now. ICON oddly enough has been the most consistent with the synoptic features and placement. Something to watch: Eta: GFS on board as well....for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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