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December 2021 Obs/Disco...Dreaming of a White-Weenie Xmas


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3 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said:

One would think that a low in that place would pull some cold air down from Canada, but it looks like the cold is closed off. Junk airmass.

I can understand the frustration for you eastern New Englanders if that happens.

Actually ... that's sort of the idealized model you have in mind there. 

It's not 'theoretically' wrong to outline a theme that way, but nuances relative to circumstance - long words for what this coastal is actually doing ... - is what fills the pages with the real story in each case.

In this one, you have a low that moves from a zygote position E of GA to western NS in 24 hours ...that's ~ 85 mph of cyclone translation speed. That is unusually fast. The wind on the west side of this thing - even in a fuller strike - might actually not even be all that impressive due to that vector addition stuff ( think coastal accelerating hurricane, west side lower wind ..etc.).  

Simple words: not enough time to "grab" air in that sense. 

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1 minute ago, mahk_webstah said:

probably not enough further back, but this can still develop a bit I'd think.  If the trend to an earlier phase continues for another run or 2 then maybe it is cold enough for heavy wet snow in the interior.

Yes, If we could get this going just a tad sooner, Its still borderline here so it would not take much, But that is a potent s/w moving up the coast on the 22nd.

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6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Actually ... that's sort of the idealized model you have in mind there. 

It's not 'theoretically' wrong to outline a theme that way, but nuances relative to circumstance - long words for what this coastal is actually doing ... - is what fills the pages with the real story in each case.

In this one, you have a low that moves from a zygote position E of GA to western NS in 24 hours ...that's ~ 85 mph of cyclone translation speed. That is unusually fast. The wind on the west side of this thing - even in a fuller strike - might actually not even be all that impressive due to that vector addition stuff ( think coastal accelerating hurricane, west side lower wind ..etc.).  

Simple words: not enough time to "grab" air in that sense. 

I assume the fast Pacific flow is involved with this rapid movement and inability to slow down and fully develop?

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