CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Just started looking at next week and initial thought was woah....we are going to be much above normal, however, upon looking at the lower levels and the sfc...it may not get as warm as one things...maybe briefly later in the week but much of the week looks like a sneaky CAD-type scenario. Maybe more in the way of seasonal temps as opposed to much above? May have some DSD days next week. The real torch is tomorrow (especially SNE) and Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 hours ago, weathafella said: There were some days in the 70s when you did about 5 runs and packed it in-too cold and you understood whey the mountain was empty! One time skiing at the Beast my ear froze and turned white, it was hard as a rock. Could have broke it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, CoastalWx said: May have some DSD days next week. The real torch is tomorrow (especially SNE) and Thursday. Tomorrow is going to be quite mild. Even have to watch out for some isolated strong-to-severe thunderstorms. Agreed...warmest temps next week likely when that warm front lifts through but as long as we have that sfc high parked to the north any big warming is going to be muted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Not good throw in a cutter and a lot of nooses be coming out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Looking forward to the 60s this weekend. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 35 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Uh? The models look good after the 19th . I've given that up....the majority are going to continue to paint a grim portrayal of the future until it snows appreciably in their BY, then and only then will it be full steam ahead. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Just started looking at next week and initial thought was woah....we are going to be much above normal, however, upon looking at the lower levels and the sfc...it may not get as warm as one things...maybe briefly later in the week but much of the week looks like a sneaky CAD-type scenario. Maybe more in the way of seasonal temps as opposed to much above? I was telling Will yesterday that I bet Thursday is my only true torch day here in the NE corner of the region. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Still waiting for those periods last winter where the "models looked good" to deliver Were you away in February? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Tomorrow is going to be quite mild. Even have to watch out for some isolated strong-to-severe thunderstorms. Agreed...warmest temps next week likely when that warm front lifts through but as long as we have that sfc high parked to the north any big warming is going to be muted. Wind damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 agreed. the long range pattern looks better / not horrible. lowering epo, -PNA (but variable) hints of east based -NAO SE ridge still a question It's better than the closed shade pattern of the next 10 days, and it at least could provide chances for parts of New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Last two mornings here were 9°F and low of 10°F this morning, Nothing fake about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I've given that up....the majority are going to continue to paint a grim portrayal of the future until it snows appreciably in their BY, then and only then will it be full steam ahead. Some serious Debbie’s in here…holy smokes what dooms-dayers. Their constant consternation and negativity is getting old. Let em go. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Some serious Debbie’s in here…holy smokes what dooms-dayers. Their constant consternation and negativity is getting old. Let em go. Alot of dooms dayers on every forum. It's not even winter yet. 1 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: Alot of dooms dayers on every forum. It's not even winter yet. It’s pathetic actually. Detracts from the forum. 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: 2019 was a good one. ORH has a high of 1F. Coldest since the Jan 1994 outbreak which also produced a high of 1F (the Jan 2004 outbreak had a high of 2F). My brother invited me up to ski with him in January of 1994. The things I remember about that cold outbreak was single digit cold at home, a frozen Long Island Sound and painful cold skiing at Smugglers Notch. This was when I lived in Queens., New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: It’s pathetic actually. Detracts from the forum. They are in a never ending search for the perfect KU pattern when in fact many "perfect patterns" haven't produced and we often get memorable snowstorms in serviceable patterns. A serviceable pattern is quite possible by the end of the month. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: It’s pathetic actually. Detracts from the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I get the frustration....it's pretty bad to have nothing on the horizon on 12/10.....and we might end up punting all of December until the pattern gets less hostile. I am not quite ready to punt the final 10 days of the month yet though....that's a very strong EPO ridge forecast and if the western troughing is just a little less than shown, we'd have chances I think. But it's definitely a headwind right now. That western trough is very deep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: I get the frustration....it's pretty bad to have nothing on the horizon on 12/10.....and we might end up punting all of December until the pattern gets less hostile. I am not quite ready to punt the final 10 days of the month yet though....that's a very strong EPO ridge forecast and if the western troughing is just a little less than shown, we'd have chances I think. But it's definitely a headwind right now. That western trough is very deep. More often than not, the month of December is a headwind in SNE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If you can get a EPS/GEFS compromise after 12/20, I think it would work. EPS to me, looks like a overall tough look....I like the term headwind that Will said. But, the GEFS would make many happy I think after the 20th. Go 'Murica. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: They are in a never ending search for the perfect KU pattern when in fact many "perfect patterns" haven't produced and we often get memorable snowstorms in serviceable patterns. A serviceable pattern is quite possible by the end of the month. Agreed 100%. I mean we weren't supposed to get any snow for the first 3 weeks of December, and some how we did. Nothing significant, but it was something. How did that happen? lol. Let’s let it play out, and if it flops then we can say it sucked ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Some serious Debbie’s in here…holy smokes what dooms-dayers. Their constant consternation and negativity is getting old. Let em go. I'm not worried, snow and cold weather will show up in April. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: More often than not, the month of December is a headwind in SNE. Yes especially early month....but the 2nd half of the month is pretty decent for snow climo...esp interior. So punting December would be pretty bad....esp in a Nina. I honestly can't remember the last good La Nina where we punted December. Might have to go all the way back to 1971-72. Hopefully this one turns it around in the final 10 days which is very possible. It's an active flow, so the snow events can come in a bunches once some of the timing breaks your way (ala Dec 2007 or 2008) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yes especially early month....but the 2nd half of the month is pretty decent for snow climo...esp interior. So punting December would be pretty bad....esp in a Nina. I honestly can't remember the last good La Nina where we punted December. Might have to go all the way back to 1971-72. Hopefully this one turns it around in the final 10 days which is very possible. It's an active flow, so the snow events can come in a bunches once some of the timing breaks your way (ala Dec 2007 or 2008) Too bad because yesterday could have been a nice event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yes especially early month....but the 2nd half of the month is pretty decent for snow climo...esp interior. So punting December would be pretty bad....esp in a Nina. I honestly can't remember the last good La Nina where we punted December. Might have to go all the way back to 1971-72. Hopefully this one turns it around in the final 10 days which is very possible. It's an active flow, so the snow events can come in a bunches once some of the timing breaks your way (ala Dec 2007 or 2008) This is true, but if something is imminent at the close of the month, then I think that is a bit different. If we are in the first week of January and nothing is imminent, may be time to worry. I would be stunned if that were the case, as I do not expect that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Looks cold enough for NNE 18th on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Some serious Debbie’s in here…holy smokes what dooms-dayers. Their constant consternation and negativity is getting old. Let em go. They gone. We pray that the Lord stiffens their spine and strengthens their knees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I was telling Will yesterday that I bet Thursday is my only true torch day here in the NE corner of the region. And Will was telling us days ago that Thursday would probably be the only true torch day here in the NE corner of the region 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just a side note, wonder if we have some nasty ZL tomorrow morning even near BOS? That is a nasty tuck coming down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said: And Will was telling us days ago that Thursday would probably be the only true torch day here in the NE corner of the region What is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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