LVwxHistorian Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just trying to gauge the interest in a Lehigh Valley Wx History Book -- about $15? Any takers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I'd totally be down, however it would depend on the extensiveness of the details inside. A localized "KU" climatology book would be awesome, but if it's just surface details and doesn't get into the meat of each event I would pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 It would be alot like Pocono Weather by Ben Gelber which is actually the inspiration for it -- very detailed, if you've seen it KU = Kutztown Univ.?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 KU is Kocin-Ucellini... check out the "Northeast Snowstorms" book by them. We call historical snowstorms KU's sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I am considering authoring the definitive "Everything You Wanted to Know About the Unique and Dynamic Climate of Chester County PA In the Philadelphia Suburbs" Is the title too long? Is $14.90 the right price? So many questions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 11/25/2021 at 1:32 PM, Newman said: KU is Kocin-Ucellini... check out the "Northeast Snowstorms" book by them. We call historical snowstorms KU's sometimes Expand Great books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 7:39 PM, ChescoWx said: I am considering authoring the definitive "Everything You Wanted to Know About the Unique and Dynamic Climate of Chester County PA In the Philadelphia Suburbs" Is the title too long? Is $14.90 the right price? So many questions.... Expand Sounds good but just don't include all that bogus snowfall data from 1890s and 1900s!! I think that observer was a weenie, inflating figures just to get attention! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 8:00 PM, LVwxHistorian said: Sounds good but just don't include all that bogus snowfall data from 1890s and 1900s!! I think that observer was a weenie, inflating figures just to get attention! Expand LOL! they were indeed certified by the NWS offices and are part of the official records for Pennsylvania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 8:07 PM, ChescoWx said: LOL! they were indeed certified by the NWS offices and are part of the official records for Pennsylvania. Expand There was no NWS back then!! And no quality control -- just look at all nearby stations. We covered this in one of your posts last year. Feb. 1899 and Jan 1905, and April 1894 storms are way inflated. I'm gonna get back on NCDCs case to review them. BTW your picture is super creepy, LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 8:11 PM, LVwxHistorian said: There was no NWS back then!! And no quality control -- just look at all nearby stations. We covered this in one of your posts last year. Feb. 1899 and Jan 1905, and April 1894 storms are way inflated. I'm gonna get back on NCDCs case to review them. BTW your picture is super creepy, LOL! Expand I agree - as someone I work with once said - once seen it cannot be unseen LOL!! While there was no NWS it was validated by who was the official weather service prior to NWS formation - The US Dept of Agriculture - see the below part of the offical record from the NCDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 8:18 PM, ChescoWx said: I agree - as someone I work with once said - once seen it cannot be unseen LOL!! While there was no NWS it was validated by who was the official weather service prior to NWS formation - The US Dept of Agriculture - see the below part of the offical record from the NCDC Expand Are you referring to "Best Available Record" stamp? that just means this is the most legible copy they have. Have you looked at other stations in the county?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 IPS-790AB565-6314-4896-A044-EAC30BAE3F84.pdfFetching info... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 8:21 PM, LVwxHistorian said: Are you referring to "Best Available Record" stamp? that just means this is the most legible copy they have. Have you looked at other stations in the county?? Expand On 12/3/2021 at 8:30 PM, LVwxHistorian said: IPS-790AB565-6314-4896-A044-EAC30BAE3F84.pdf 498.36 kB · 1 download Expand It is both best available and included as part of the record by the NCDC and PA State Climatologist. I have looked at other stations - West Chester Reported almost 40" that month....not unusual to have major differences across Chester County as you move from SE to NW or N to S. I have seen many occasions with huge differences. A great example is Morgantown in 1958 just 8 miles up the road from here recorded 50" of snow fell in one day with trucks stranded at the Turnpike entrace while down the road in West Chester (less than 15NM SE only 10" of snow fell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 The attached couple articles may help see the differences in snowfall across short distances...clearly in addition to topography there is banding etc. which can contribute to huge variation across relatively short distances. https://www.inquirer.com/philly/blogs/phillylists/Historic-snowfalls-Suburbs-totals-dominate.html https://billypenn.com/2018/03/07/why-do-phillys-western-suburbs-always-get-more-snow/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 West Chester had 32 inches in March 1958 storm and it's 20 miles from Morgantown!! IPS-07E23916-1F10-4274-ADA6-55858A391565.pdfFetching info... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 You didn't know you were going up against a real weather historian, did you, LOL! This drunken observer W.J. Gordon was around for the DEC 1909 too: 38 inches when Kennett Square had 23" and 21" at West Chester??!! Come on!! Your arguments are crumbling. Hopefully NCDC will do something about this ridiculousness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGorse Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 On 12/4/2021 at 5:26 PM, LVwxHistorian said: You didn't know you were going up against a real weather historian, did you, LOL! This drunken observer W.J. Gordon was around for the DEC 1909 too: 38 inches when Kennett Square had 23" and 21" at West Chester??!! Come on!! Your arguments are crumbling. Hopefully NCDC will do something about this ridiculousness Expand I first thought about the gradient that occurs from east to west across Chester County, as it can be significant. Have you contacted NCEI (formally NCDC) regarding this? Also, are there any available reports closer to Coatesville to better understand if those values are completely off the rails or not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacChump Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 oh man you guys are the ones that us weather nerds shoved in lockers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVwxHistorian Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 7:50 PM, MacChump said: oh man you guys are the ones that us weather nerds shoved in lockers Expand LOL I'd really like to see you see you try that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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