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Upstate/Eastern New York-Into Winter!


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1 hour ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

Wow… Home on Hoover Beach in Hamburg literally ripped apart.  

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I knew that house looked familiar, they lost that side of the house in 2020 too. You can see the water damage in your pics. 
 

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23 hours ago, DeltaT13 said:

So tomorrow we get to solve this riddle. What on earth is this weird radar signature. Is it mist from the falls, trash from the landfill, birds from the landfills, smoke from a fire?  It’s certainly not precip. Very interesting. 
 

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Well it’s tomorrow!  Guesses?  For comparison here is what the Steel Plant Fire looked like on radar back in 2016.

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A lot of noise online about a decent pattern setting up around Christmas time. Based on MJO.  
Admittedly, I don’t understand this much but you’re going to have a hell of a time beating down the SE ridge. 
Transient cold shots, post cutters, would be my guess. But I wouldn’t argue with OSU. Cohen might though

 

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1 hour ago, rochesterdave said:

A lot of noise online about a decent pattern setting up around Christmas time. Based on MJO.  
Admittedly, I don’t understand this much but you’re going to have a hell of a time beating down the SE ridge. 
Transient cold shots, post cutters, would be my guess. But I wouldn’t argue with OSU. Cohen might though

 

Yeah that first storm for next weekend has a high potential of being a hybrid cutter IMO. I foresee it being a slop storm for many esp the further south you go. Maybe some get a decent thump snow before a warm nose brings the taint. We'll see what happens.

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2 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

Well it’s tomorrow!  Guesses?  For comparison here is what the Steel Plant Fire looked like on radar back in 2016.

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So it looks like there was a fire overnight right in that area but it should have long been out by the time I captured that radar. I wonder if it flared back up?   The address of the fire is 2040 cory drive. Sanborn ny. 

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13 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said:

So it looks like there was a fire overnight right in that area but it should have long been out by the time I captured that radar. I wonder if it flared back up?   The address of the fire is 2040 cory drive. Sanborn ny. 

Based on this press release, that was a minor fire confined to a chimney. Would have needed a much larger fire to generate that much smoke.

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2 hours ago, rochesterdave said:

A lot of noise online about a decent pattern setting up around Christmas time. Based on MJO.  
Admittedly, I don’t understand this much but you’re going to have a hell of a time beating down the SE ridge. 
Transient cold shots, post cutters, would be my guess. But I wouldn’t argue with OSU. Cohen might though

 

Eric Webb another well known Met was copied to the NE forum earlier as the EPS is beginning to show a -NAO the week of Xmas. I wouldn’t look into the op models all that much right now as they’re wildly all over the map, literally. Give it about 3 days and some things for the weekend will start to become clearer

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1 hour ago, DeltaT13 said:

So it looks like there was a fire overnight right in that area but it should have long been out by the time I captured that radar. I wonder if it flared back up?   The address of the fire is 2040 cory drive. Sanborn ny. 

Actually I think it was this fire in North Tonawanda.  First alarm was toned out at 4:05pm.  When you single frame the radar you first see the plume at 4:03pm.  Fire was declared fully involved 50 minutes later at 4:55pm which would line up with the radar times.  Probably just looking more impressive with the winds. 

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1 hour ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

Actually I think it was this fire in North Tonawanda.  First alarm was toned out at 4:05pm.  When you single frame the radar you first see the plume at 4:03pm.  Fire was declared fully involved 50 minutes later at 4:55pm which would line up with the radar times.  Probably just looking more impressive with the winds. 

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I posted that last night. North Tonawanda looks to be south of where that radar echo was originating though. And I don't think an average size residential home would cause enough smoke to show up on radar. 

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