TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, sferic said: Matt, you are SW of me I believe. What is the most accumulated untouched snow depth you've ever seen at your location? Does this area get Icestorms? On Long Island we always deal with a rain snow line which quickly changes LI snow to rain especially with a SE wind. We love it up here; learning other things other than weather related things Glad I made the move but still have my other house on LI and a family house in the Catskills so in the rare case NYC/LI is to be blasted or a N'Easter serves up a Catskills special I'll go to that location! Yeah, I am WSW (almost due West) of you. Northern Onondaga county in general retains snow depth better than the city it does. I have only been here for 2.5 years (3rd winter here) and Syracuse almost always seems to have less (sometimes significantly so) snowfall than us. Ice storms aren't too common as Lake Ontario and a southerly wind can scour out low level cold air pretty quickly. As is quite evident, I hate how warm air so quickly invades this region...my biggest weather pet peeve of living here. The hills to the south of Syracuse create a mini-Chinook from downsloping on a south wind. So maddening. Sometimes, the warmth gets hung up on the hills though and we can get some cold air damming that funnels in on an E or NE wind from the Mohawk Valley. I have seen Tully in the 40s before, while we are in the low 30s. The dreaded rain/mix/snow line. I thought I was getting away from it as well (moving from Lancaster, PA). But, instead of it moving in from the ocean, we deal with it from dying primary lows that move up along Lake Ontario and warm air surges north through the Finger Lakes. Sleet is actually pretty common here...moreso than freezing rain. We need secondary lows to take over more quickly...which has greatly been lacking since I moved here. We want to see a nice retrograding Low sit off the coast of Massachusetts and filter synoptic moisture in along with a WNW wind off Lake Ontario. That's when Syracuse gets feet of snow in a week. Snow depth here "can" reach 3 to 4 feet. Because Lake effect snow compacts easily and snowfalls build one on top of another and keep pressing down...I would say a typical max snow depth (usually in February) would be 24 to 30 inches. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 ..A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WILL AFFECT SOUTHERN JEFFERSON AND NORTHERN OSWEGO COUNTIES THIS EVENING... HAZARDS...A band of heavy snow which can rapidly reduce visibility to less than a quarter of a mile. This band of heavy snow is producing extremely heavy snow at the rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour. LOCATION AND MOVEMENT...The heavy snow band will impact Interstate 81 between Parish and Adams. The band will move gradually south between 715 PM and 900 PM. LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE... Sandy Island Beach State Park, Stony Point, Pulaski, Adams, Selkirk Shores State Park, Mexico Point State Park, Nine Mile Point, Southwick Beach State Park, Adams Center, Richland, New Haven, Mexico, Henderson, Rodman, Orwell, Lorraine, Sandy Creek, Lacona, Altmar and Mannsville. This includes Interstate 81 between exits 35 and 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, CNY_WX said: That V in the returns looks like an arrow pointed right at me. Where has Freak been? Looks like it's about over his home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, TugHillMatt said: Where has Freak been? Looks like it's about over his home. He’s hot and cold. He’ll show up when it gets real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Yeah, I am WSW (almost due West) of you. Northern Onondaga county in general retains snow depth better than the city it does. I have only been here for 2.5 years (3rd winter here) and Syracuse almost always seems to have less (sometimes significantly so) snowfall than us. Ice storms aren't too common as Lake Ontario and a southerly wind can scour out low level cold air pretty quickly. As is quite evident, I hate how warm air so quickly invades this region...my biggest weather pet peeve of living here. The hills to the south of Syracuse create a mini-Chinook from downsloping on a south wind. So maddening. Sometimes, the warmth gets hung up on the hills though and we can get some cold air damming that funnels in on an E or NE wind from the Mohawk Valley. I have seen Tully in the 40s before, while we are in the low 30s. The dreaded rain/mix/snow line. I thought I was getting away from it as well (moving from Lancaster, PA). But, instead of it moving in from the ocean, we deal with it from dying primary lows that move up along Lake Ontario and warm air surges north through the Finger Lakes. Sleet is actually pretty common here...moreso than freezing rain. We need secondary lows to take over more quickly...which has greatly been lacking since I moved here. We want to see a nice retrograding Low sit off the coast of Massachusetts and filter synoptic moisture in along with a WNW wind off Lake Ontario. That's when Syracuse gets feet of snow in a week. Snow depth here "can" reach 3 to 4 feet. Because Lake effect snow compacts easily and snowfalls build one on top of another and keep pressing down...I would say a typical max snow depth (usually in February) would be 24 to 30 inches. Thanks for that treasure chest of such valuable info ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, TugHillMatt said: Where has Freak been? Looks like it's about over his home. That’s right we haven’t heard from him in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, Blue Moon said: My snowiest winter was 2010-2011. We got 14". 14 inches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: He’s hot and cold. He’ll show up when it gets real One of these days he'll all of a sudden show up mouthing everybody off and telling us how "everything is a joke." He'll call you a name, give a report on "north of Great Northern" and threaten to run down 31 naked if we don't get a 2 foot dump pretty soon. Then he will be gone like a whisper in the breeze...until another day.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Another converging of winds.. Fulton right now reporting SW winds while Watertown is NW.. Makes sense why some guidance, hrrr, hrdps and rgem are hitting up C Oswego county.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Oswego County airport in Fulton reporting heavy snow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I'm wondering if there will be any thundersnow in that line from Sterling to Fulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 @Syrmax and Phoenix look to get hit nicely again. Good couple days for him. Looks like I will be in it too...maybe for not as long, but definitely working south as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Revracer in Hannibal must be getting hit pretty good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, CNY_WX said: Revracer in Hannibal must be getting hit pretty good right now. It was ripping pretty good now nothing lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Coming down hard here for the past 15 minutes. 1 to 2 inch per hour rates. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Coming down pretty good here even though the radar looks meh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 If that area moving over Wayne and into N. Cayuga fills in I could see BGM issuing an advisory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Cicero: nada to an occasional flurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1.9 24hr total here in lowville. Probably will tack on another couple tenths overnight. Seasonal total just over 9 11/15- .8 11/19 .3 11/22 .5 11/26 1 11/28-29 1.7 11/29-30 .8 12/4 -.8 12/6-7 1.3 12/8 1.9 Total: 9.1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I was just looking through the CIPS analogs for this weekends storm. Some pretty big hits showing up. I recognize 2 or 3 of those off the top of my head. The 1/9/08 storm had a 75mph gust at Kroc and caused some of the most extensive tree damage I have ever seen around here. The frontal passage had a low topped line of convection with embedded bowing segments, it came through around 445am with an absolute freight train of a blast. Woke me from a dead sleep and genuinely scared me for a few seconds. Wild stuff. I had an incredible amount of pictures from that storm but they were all lost in a hard drive crash..still bums me out These other images just show the percent possibility of high winds. The fact that the >55kts page isn’t blank is amazing. That’s a serious gust. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Blue Moon said: Heaviest snow of the past couple of days right now. About to get into some heavier snow here, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Cicero 10:35PM Heavy Snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: I was just looking through the CIPS analogs for this weekends storm. Some pretty big hits showing up. I recognize 2 or 3 of those off the top of my head. The 1/9/08 storm had a 75mph gust at Kroc and caused some of the most extensive tree damage I have ever seen around here. The frontal passage had a low topped line of convection with embedded bowing segments, it came through around 445am with an absolute freight train of a blast. Woke me from a dead sleep and genuinely scared me for a few seconds. Wild stuff. I had an incredible amount of pictures from that storm but they were all lost in a hard drive crash..still bums me out These other images just show the percent possibility of high winds. The fact that the >55kts page isn’t blank is amazing. That’s a serious gust. Yes! There was a loud line of storms that came through in the dead of night here, had the 737 at the airport get pushed into a jetway. that storm was crazy! 2008 Low pressure over upper Michigan continued to deepen as it tracked across the northern Great Lakes to Quebec. Winds increased to 25 to 40 mph with gusts measured to 75 mph. Trees and power lines were downed by the strong winds. Utility companies reported tens of thousands of customers without power in locations scattered throughout region. Crews from Ohio, Connecticut and sections of eastern New York traveled to the area to help with power restoration which, in some cases, took several days. Several homes and automobiles were damaged by falling trees and limbs. The strong winds flipped five tractor trailers including ones on Route 12 in Denmark and on Route 81 between LaFargeville and Clayton. In Great Bend, the winds lifted a carport and deposited onto the roof of a home. Northwest Monroe County was particularly hart hit with four homes deemed uninhabitable. Several school districts closed or released students early because of the winds. A powerful cold front crossed the region during early morning hours. The thunderstorms that accompanied the front produced damaging wind gusts measured to 75 mph. Trees and power lines were downed by the winds throughout the region. At the Buffalo Airport, a Boeing 737 on the ground was blown into a jet way and damaged. Several homes and automobiles sustained damage by falling trees and limbs. In Watertown, a roof was blown off a building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: I was just looking through the CIPS analogs for this weekends storm. Some pretty big hits showing up. I recognize 2 or 3 of those off the top of my head. The 1/9/08 storm had a 75mph gust at Kroc and caused some of the most extensive tree damage I have ever seen around here. The frontal passage had a low topped line of convection with embedded bowing segments, it came through around 445am with an absolute freight train of a blast. Woke me from a dead sleep and genuinely scared me for a few seconds. Wild stuff. I had an incredible amount of pictures from that storm but they were all lost in a hard drive crash..still bums me out These other images just show the percent possibility of high winds. The fact that the >55kts page isn’t blank is amazing. That’s a serious gust. Love going down to waterfront for wind events 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Probably won't last much longer but ripping pretty good out right now.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 A few videos from the 3 straight nights of snow here. The first 2 are from Bills game with the strong winds/squalls, the last one is from today and features the highest snowfall rates. The end of video 2 is around 2" per as well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 High wind watches out gusts to 65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Lock in the 6zGFS…I kid of course…sort of… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 There she is. I’ve missed you fantasy storm 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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