WinterWxLuvr Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 11 of 21 days so far in November at KOKV with temps at or below freezing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherShak Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 of 21 days so far in November at KOKV with temps at or below freezing Was looking at the 10 day and feel like it’s been a while since the 10 day consistently had overnight lows forecast to be in the 20s (except for one in the attached) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 0.0” of rain from the major storm impacting the holiday travel of millions!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormfly Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, WxUSAF said: 0.0” of rain from the major storm impacting the holiday travel of millions!! Don't forget those 20 mph gusts. May make travel hazardous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I had 0.08" from this MAJOR STORM. Sheltering in place as we speak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 The hallmark storm has brought me very low cloud decks. It's dangerous out there, (solar) power is out for thousands in the area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, H2O said: I had 0.08" from this MAJOR STORM. Sheltering in place as we speak Prayers for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 .10 here. woo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frd Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 hours ago, WxUSAF said: 0.0” of rain from the major storm impacting the holiday travel of millions!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Sleet! 49° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSG Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Lowest dews of the season by far. 40/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Pretty crappy drive from Richmond through the northern half of South Carolina today. Wish the rain would have stayed up at home rather than all along the southern half I-95 today… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Snow guns have been on all night at Wisp, first time this season. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 no frost on the car but its crisp and cold even only being 31F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GramaxRefugee Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 low 28. DP 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 low of 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolsheds Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Low of 25.7. My daughter didn't wear a jacket to the bus stop and wore one of those shirts which has the stomach hanging out under an unbuttoned flannel. If she complains about it being cold...so be it. You can only fight some battles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Brisk 43 degrees on Hilton Head this morning. Folks are bundled up like we're getting ready to ice fish on the Great Slave Lake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 8:36 PM, WEATHER53 said: DCA madness again last night Everyone else 24-27 DCA 33 Eveyone else dropping hour by hour until dawn DCA 33 for hours. Wherever those sensors are is a location prohibitive to accuracy for the area the station is designated to represent The thermos are reading correctly for wherever they are, it’s wherever they are thats the problem and produces the skewed and non representative reports. Freedom plaza or the Willard are all asphalt buildings and. concrete. That’s a heat island. DCA has buildings to the west and remainder water or open space. And , when Potomac is frozen or very cold, this still happens. Did avoid another gross inaccuracy overnight and hit 32 for first time even with all surroundings 5-10 colder. I have no idea how to do it AND I would shut my mouth forever should the following occur. -Take Logan, La Guardia, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Richmond and Miami. Do those stations consistently read 5-10 degrees warmer than what is within 1-10 miles of them. I already know the answer for Baltimore is NO proof would be in that pudding. Heat island comment is a default dismissive attempt to look no further. If DCAs sensors are, for example, out on a overgrown former parking lot or located very close to the office to allow easy access then that could be an issue. Otherwise it’s kinda down to that the buildings to the west are leaking tremendous warmth because NSE is mostly parkway open space and water. So, where’s the heat? Downtown DC, NYC, surrounded on 4 sides-that’s a heat producer. And, same thing happens when Potomac is frozen even if less dramatic on order if 3-5 and not 5-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, WEATHER53 said: Did avoid another gross inaccuracy overnight and hit 32 for first time even with all surroundings 5-10 colder. I have no idea how to do it AND I would shut my mouth forever should the following occur. -Take Logan, La Guardia, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Richmond and Miami. Do those stations consistently read 5-10 degrees warmer than what is within 1-10 miles of them. I already know the answer for Baltimore is NO proof would be in that pudding. Heat island comment is a default dismissive attempt to look no further. If DCAs sensors are, for example, out on a overgrown former parking lot or located very close to the office to allow easy access then that could be an issue. Otherwise it’s kinda down to that the buildings to the west are leaking tremendous warmth because NSE is mostly parkway open space and water. So, where’s the heat? Downtown DC, NYC, surrounded on 4 sides-that’s a heat producer. And, same thing happens when Potomac is frozen even if less dramatic on order if 3-5 and not 5-10 Andrews was 31. H2O in Alex was 31. I was 30. I don’t know what you are talking about. We know exactly where the thermometer is, in the middle of a grassy area on the river side of the runways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GramaxRefugee Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, MN Transplant said: Andrews was 31. H2O in Alex was 31. I was 30. I don’t know what you are talking about. We know exactly where the thermometer is, in the middle of a grassy area on the river side of the runways. True....but Nov 20 however....those stations were all in the 20s while DCA still clung to 33. Andrews 25, I think, so that's 8 degrees right there. Nat'l Arboretum was 28. DaleCarlia was 27. I'm not digging into the reasons, wind direction etc, but just to make an honest comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Doug Hill has died Great guy. Always kind and thankful for obs and discussion 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, GramaxRefugee said: True....but Nov 20 however....those stations were all in the 20s while DCA still clung to 33. Andrews 25, I think, so that's 8 degrees right there. Nat'l Arboretum was 28. DaleCarlia was 27. I'm not digging into the reasons, wind direction etc, but just to make an honest comparison. It is pretty easy. Last night the winds stayed up and kept the atmosphere more mixed. Therefore there was a more homogeneous temperature distribution. On the 20th, it was whisper calm, and that is where the river and heat island take over. The river on the 20th was still 47 degrees at little falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, GramaxRefugee said: True....but Nov 20 however....those stations were all in the 20s while DCA still clung to 33. Andrews 25, I think, so that's 8 degrees right there. Nat'l Arboretum was 28. DaleCarlia was 27. I'm not digging into the reasons, wind direction etc, but just to make an honest comparison. Last night had a range of 27-31 fir tge surfoubds. Andrews being merely 2 degrees colder is very rare in all honesty there is nothing fir me to discuss with newcomers or those who have not closely monitored this irregularity for 40 years. I noted about 5 other city stations along the east coast. Show me that they are always 5-10 degrees warmer than 1-10 miles away and I will shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, GramaxRefugee said: True....but Nov 20 however....those stations were all in the 20s while DCA still clung to 33. Andrews 25, I think, so that's 8 degrees right there. Nat'l Arboretum was 28. DaleCarlia was 27. I'm not digging into the reasons, wind direction etc, but just to make an honest comparison. Last night had a range of 27-31 fir the suburbs. Andrews being merely 2 degrees colder is very rare and you all know that. in all honesty there is nothing for me to discuss with newcomers or those who have not closely monitored this irregularity for 40 years and are wedded to heat island. I noted about 5 other city stations along the east coast. Show me that they are always 5-10 degrees warmer than 1-10 miles away and I will shut up . if we get a chance like we do about once every 7 years Please watch DCA during an intense area wide snowstorm. 4” on ground everywhere, snowing moderately, DCA 29 and all others 24/25. I’ve seen that about 6 times. Where’s the heat island when blanketed in snow and snowing moderately or heavier?? kinda being told my eyes are deceiving me so rejecting that as I have for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, GramaxRefugee said: True....but Nov 20 however....those stations were all in the 20s while DCA still clung to 33. Andrews 25, I think, so that's 8 degrees right there. Nat'l Arboretum was 28. DaleCarlia was 27. I'm not digging into the reasons, wind direction etc, but just to make an honest comparison. Utterly correct non agenda fact backed observation and exactly how it is Most of the Time as opposed to last nights exception. Is BWI generally 5-10 degrees warmer than Glen Burnie? We know the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 44/20, mostly sunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterFire Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, WEATHER53 said: Last night had a range of 27-31 fir the suburbs. Andrews being merely 2 degrees colder is very rare and you all know that. in all honesty there is nothing for me to discuss with newcomers or those who have not closely monitored this irregularity for 40 years and are wedded to heat island. I noted about 5 other city stations along the east coast. Show me that they are always 5-10 degrees warmer than 1-10 miles away and I will shut up . if we get a chance like we do about once every 7 years Please watch DCA during an intense area wide snowstorm. 4” on ground everywhere, snowing moderately, DCA 29 and all others 24/25. I’ve seen that about 6 times. Where’s the heat island when blanketed in snow and snowing moderately or heavier?? kinda being told my eyes are deceiving me so rejecting that as I have for decades. So I seriously doubt that there is anything that anyone could say to convince you that there isn’t some kind of conspiracy at DCA, but I urge you to go browse the New England forum and see how they feel about the observations at Logan (especially compared to Blue Hill Observatory). Or you can check CWG’s comparisons of their downtown station vs DCA, which are generally within 1-2 degrees of each other. People have been observing the heat island effect for years, the data is all there for you to find! And—you say your eyes are deceiving you but you don’t actually live by DCA. So what personal observations are you basing this off of? Do you have an independent sensor in Crystal City or on The Wharf? Could you share these observations so we know how your eyes are deceiving you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 High of 43 and low of 30 so far today. May be able to get below 30 before midnight. 40 currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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