Rtd208 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Overnight low of 31 here. Current temp 38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Roller coastember Nice swirl off the SC and SE coast. Looks like the roller coaster is climbing and temps should be on the stronger plus side 11/8 - 11/12. Then 11/13 - 11/16 cooler/ colder (11/14-15) side. Beyond there back warmer perhaps by D9/10 (11/16 - 11/21). Looking out towards Thanksgiving week looks like we head back colder on the long range. Cold start will be hard to over come unless Thanksgiving cold folds. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: In the main la nina thread they seem to think we'll have an active back end too. So maybe a snowy beginning and a snow end? Quote a few la nina's have been book end winters. Our last bookend La Niña was 17-18. Snowy mid-December to January 4th then early spring from mid-January through the 80° high in late February. Record snows in March to early April. 16-17 had a very even distribution of snow from December through March. It was really mild from late December through February. We had the famous Denver style 60° the day before the February blizzard. 10-11 was our last front-loaded La Niña winter with Newark recording 60"+ from late December to late January before the snows shut off. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season 2016-2017 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2017-2018 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 Maximum 35-Day Total Snowfall for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Dates Missing Days Period of record: 1931-02-01 to 2021-11-06 1 61.6 2010-12-26 through 2011-01-29 0 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 EWR last shot at adding more to their 70 (+) tallies on Tuesday (11/9) and Wed (11/10). Records highs safe that period from the upper 70s a year ago (2020). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 When you see such a big North Pacific pattern change like this, expect the model storm details beyond 5 days to vary more than usual from run to run. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, bluewave said: Our last bookend La Niña was 17-18. Snowy mid-December to January 4th then early spring from mid-January through the 80° high in late February. Record snows in March to early April. 16-17 had a very even distribution of snow from December through March. It was really mild from late December through February. We had the famous Denver style 60° the day before the February blizzard. 10-11 was our last front-loaded La Niña winter with Newark recording 60"+ from late December to late January before the snows shut off. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season 2016-2017 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2017-2018 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 Maximum 35-Day Total Snowfall for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Dates Missing Days Period of record: 1931-02-01 to 2021-11-06 1 61.6 2010-12-26 through 2011-01-29 0 Peaked my interest with 17/18. Probably my 4th favorite winter of all time. 56 inches total snowfall with 28 falling from March onwards. Early season snowfall. Great warmth for hearting savings and outdoor activities. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Peaked my interest with 17/18. Probably my 4th favorite winter of all time. 56 inches total snowfall with 28 falling from March onwards. Early season snowfall. Great warmth for hearting savings and outdoor activities. Yeah that was definitely a good season for backend snow. Spring was definitely welcomed after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 45 after a low of 40. Finally can see some significant foliage in the 5 boros, but still below 50% overall. Look like real explosion of color as close as north half of Yonkers or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, EastonSN+ said: Peaked my interest with 17/18. Probably my 4th favorite winter of all time. 56 inches total snowfall with 28 falling from March onwards. Early season snowfall. Great warmth for hearting savings and outdoor activities. Even in our new snowier climate since 02-03, 17-18 stands out in Suffolk. Data for October 1, 2020 through April 30, 2021Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 46.1 MOUNT SINAI COOP 41.3 Data for October 1, 2017 through April 30, 2018Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BRIGHTWATERS 0.7 NNW CoCoRaHS 72.0 NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 71.8 Data for October 1, 2016 through April 30, 2017Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BAITING HOLLOW COOP 42.7 UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 42.1 NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 41.2 Data for October 1, 2015 through April 30, 2016Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 41.4 CENTERPORT COOP 41.0 Data for October 1, 2014 through April 30, 2015Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BAITING HOLLOW COOP 67.9 JAMESPORT 0.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 63.9 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 63.7 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 63.5 UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 62.2 ROCKY POINT 2.0 N CoCoRaHS 61.6 Data for October 1, 2013 through April 30, 2014Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 63.7 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 62.7 CENTERPORT COOP 60.8 Data for October 1, 2012 through April 30, 2013Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 51.1 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 46.9 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 45.1 MOUNT SINAI COOP 44.5 Data for October 1, 2010 through April 30, 2011Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall CENTERPORT COOP 64.0 MOUNT SINAI COOP 55.9 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 55.3 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 53.1 NORTHPORT 1.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 52.5 Data for October 1, 2009 through April 30, 2010Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BAITING HOLLOW COOP 57.0 EAST MORICHES 0.6 WNW CoCoRaHS 55.0 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 53.8 Data for October 1, 2008 through April 30, 2009Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 44.3 Data for October 1, 2004 through April 30, 2005Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 63.8 BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 59.3 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 58.8 CENTERPORT COOP 54.3 Data for October 1, 2003 through April 30, 2004Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall CENTERPORT COOP 59.7 BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 47.9 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 43.5 Data for October 1, 2002 through April 30, 2003Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 63.5 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 48.7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 A warming trend will commence tomorrow. Overall, the first 10 days of November will average solidly cooler than normal in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. Dry conditions will likely persist until late next week. Ensemble members are clustered around the November 12-14 for a possible break in the dry weather. Cooler weather could follow. During the second half of October, the Atlantic teleconnections went through an unusual combination for that timeframe where the AO was +0.750 or above and the NAO was -0.750 or below for a four consecutive days. There were three clusters of cases with one or more such days during the second half of October (1950-2020), two of which favored warmth in the East in November. Cluster 1 (1961, 1973, 1975): Warm East, Cool West Cluster 2 (1970, 2006): Warm Northeast/Cool Southeast, Warm West Cluster 3 (2008): Cool East, Warm West The evolution of the PNA could be crucial. For both Cluster 1 and 2, the PNA averaged negative during November. For Cluster 3, the PNA averaged above +1.000. Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27". Fall rainfall through November 7 4 pm is 15.29". Following very wet July-September periods, winter (December-February) precipitation has typically been near or below normal. The most recent exception was winter 2018-19. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.6°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -1.1°C for the week centered around October 27. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.05°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.65°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through at least mid-winter. The SOI was +17.05 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +1.584 today. On November 5 the MJO was in Phase 4 at an amplitude of 1.124 (RMM). The November 4-adjusted amplitude was 0.983 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 52% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal November (1991-2020 normal). November will likely finish with a mean temperature near 47.8° (0.2° below normal). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 12 hours ago, bluewave said: Our last bookend La Niña was 17-18. Snowy mid-December to January 4th then early spring from mid-January through the 80° high in late February. Record snows in March to early April. 16-17 had a very even distribution of snow from December through March. It was really mild from late December through February. We had the famous Denver style 60° the day before the February blizzard. 10-11 was our last front-loaded La Niña winter with Newark recording 60"+ from late December to late January before the snows shut off. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season 2016-2017 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2017-2018 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 Maximum 35-Day Total Snowfall for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Dates Missing Days Period of record: 1931-02-01 to 2021-11-06 1 61.6 2010-12-26 through 2011-01-29 0 Chris do you consider 1995-96 to be a book end winter on steroids? It's interesting so many of these book end winters had April snowstorms..... 1955-56, 1995-96, 2017-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 45* here as 5:30 this AM, fourteen degrees warmer than yesterday at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, LoboLeader1 said: 45* here as 5:30 this AM, fourteen degrees warmer than yesterday at this time. Low level inversion seems to be in place out here in eastern PA and NW NJ this morning. Low elevation locations are currently in the low to mid 30s while most other places are well into the 40s. This is resulting in 10 to 15 degree temperature differences across short distances. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 The next 8 days are averaging 54degs.(48/60), or +5. Most of the rain and all snow are gone from the GFS----Smart Boy---say nothing----before consulting a real meteorologist. LOL Today: 62-66, wind n., m. sunny. 50*(51%) here at 6am, Sunny 52* at 7am. 56* at 9am. 60* at 11am. 61* at Noon. 65* at 2pm. Reached 66* near 4pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Warm up this week after a colder than average first week of November. Looks like our next chance of significant rain and wind will be Friday. Then we start another cool down during the weekend. Probably a leaf clean up weekend after the storm for the garden interests. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: Warm up this week after a colder than average first week of November. Looks like our next chance of significant rain and wind will be Friday. Then we start another cold down during the weekend. Probably a leaf clean up weekend after the storm for the garden interests. Good to see the pattern changing slowly. No sustainable cold until the PNA pops positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Good to see the pattern changing slowly. No sustainable cold until the PNA pops positive. It looks like a back and forth type pattern. The MJO 4-6 is pumping the -EPO/+PNA. But the very strong La Niña Jet acts to flatten it out. So we get a progression of warm ups and cool downs. The monthly departure may not be determined until the last week of November. Maybe the new weeklies later will provide some clues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Morning thoughts… Today will be mostly sunny and warm. High temperatures will likely reach the lower and middle 60s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 63° Newark: 67° Philadelphia: 66° Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 56.6°; 15-Year: 56.6° Newark: 30-Year: 57.7°; 15-Year: 57.9° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 58.7°; 15-Year: 58.6° Temperatures will average above to much above normal through much of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: It looks like a back and forth type pattern. The MJO 4-6 is pumping the -EPO/+PNA. But the very strong La Niña Jet acts to flatten it out. So we get a progression of warm ups and cool downs. The monthly departure may not be determined until the last week of November. Maybe the new weeklies later will provide some clues. Gefs has been steadfast of bringing in colder air compared to the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Balmy weather is back. 63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Balmy weather is back. 63 Beautiful day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 67 degrees here right now, and not a cloud in the sky. Spectacular weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Backyard is infested with Asian beetles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 64 here, gorgeous day to be outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, qg_omega said: Backyard is infested with Asian beetles they came out of the woodwork here too-always when we get a November warm spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Not much change in the extended EPS. MJO 4-6 ridging over the NE PAC with the PAC Jet sending shortwaves through from time to time. Warmer this week with a cool down from the weekend into next week. Last week of November has a colder than average area just to our west. But we’ll see what that looks like the closer we get since week 3 and beyond has lower skill. Nov 8-15 Nov 15-22 Nov 22-29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 66/39 today...six straight days with a min in the 30's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 La nina weakening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 In spirit of the clocks' being turned back one hour on Sunday, the seasonal clock seemed to have been turned back today. Under bright sunshine, the temperature rose into the 60s and even 70s in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. High temperatures included: Baltimore: 72° Boston: 60° Bridgeport: 67° Harrisburg: 67° Hartford: 64° Islip: 65° New York City: 63° Newark: 68° Philadelphia: 67° Portland, ME: 61° Providence: 64° Washington, DC: 70° Unseasonable warmth will persist through Friday. Nevertheless, the first 10 days of November will average solidly cooler than normal in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. A cold front will bring some rain later Friday perhaps into Saturday. Afterward, it will turn noticeably cooler. During the second half of October, the Atlantic teleconnections went through an unusual combination for that timeframe where the AO was +0.750 or above and the NAO was -0.750 or below for a four consecutive days. There were three clusters of cases with one or more such days during the second half of October (1950-2020), two of which favored warmth in the East in November. Cluster 1 (1961, 1973, 1975): Warm East, Cool West Cluster 2 (1970, 2006): Warm Northeast/Cool Southeast, Warm West Cluster 3 (2008): Cool East, Warm West The evolution of the PNA could be crucial. For both Cluster 1 and 2, the PNA averaged negative during November. For Cluster 3, the PNA averaged above +1.000. Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27". Fall rainfall through November 7 4 pm is 15.29". Following very wet July-September periods, winter (December-February) precipitation has typically been near or below normal. The most recent exception was winter 2018-19. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -1.0°C for the week centered around November 3. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.27°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.78°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through at least mid-winter. The SOI was +20.68 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +1.169 today. On November 6 the MJO was in Phase 4 at an amplitude of 1.184 (RMM). The November 5-adjusted amplitude was 1.121 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 56% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal November (1991-2020 normal). November will likely finish with a mean temperature near 47.7° (0.3° below normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicJolee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 What was the last freezing date of NYC ever recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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