November 2021

[uncle W]

36 now...

[jm1220]

33 here and also frost. 

[lee59]

16 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

33 here and also frost. 

Yea I have frost in open areas like car top, roof top and even now on some of the grass. Meanwhile the NWS does not have my area under a frost advisory for tonight but they have one for Newark. I was about 7 degrees colder than Newark this morning.

[uncle W]

35 now with the first frost  of the season...

[bluewave]

Low of 37° here in SW Suffolk with the first frost of the season on the cars and rooftops.

[uofmiami]

Frost on the car this morning, 36.6 in Syosset & 32.6 in Muttontown. 
 

[gravitylover]

I also stayed above 32 (33 low) and have frost on cars but not much else and only after 6:30 when it had already started warming up 

[Cfa]

Low of 36 here. Light frost on the tops of cars but nowhere else. Tropical plants unfazed.

Temp was 38 upon entering Connetquot, quickly plummeted to 33, rebounded back to 38 after exiting, increasing by 1 degree roughly every block or so.

[wdrag]

So we all saw the 00z/3 EC for 11/7-8. Unlikely. It's EPS is hugely trim from that 00z/3 EC OP. GEFS even through 06z/3 has less than 0.10.  NAEFS is also weak...less than 0.20.  

However, BEYOND (there is always beyond) there is general multi model agreement for a big complex storm system with lots of precip for our area 11/13-15.  Right now 1-3", iso heavier  suggested, with ice potential possible down to I84 high terrain.  Have seen it previously non-consensus modeled too wintry for the 8th down to I84. So am not saying it will be a little icy there but this system is our next potential decently sized weather event, that may eventually warrant a thread if we get to modeled damaging wind, or 4" rains, or even ice into the interior part of our NYC subforum.  Just too early (for me).

We are soon to be due for a large Nov storm system.

[psv88]

2 hours ago, STORMANLI said:

33°

Frozen Dew and Frost

First of season and certainly one of the latest I can recall.

35 here in the tropics lol…first frost, expecting a freeze tonight 

[FPizz]

32 heavy frost

[CIK62]

Hey!  Don't forget that just last November.............

11/04-12 all had highs of at least 60.

Some 60's are incoming Nov. 08-15.

[bluewave]

Places that miss their first freeze this week will get another chance mid-November as the trough returns to the East.

 

 

[SnoSki14]

34F this morning. Excellent raditional cooling tonight should easily get us to freezing.

[Brian5671]

First frost here this AM-everything covered

[psv88]

Notwithstanding the first frost, many of the trees are still completely green. One of the latest leaf changes that I can remember. 

[the_other_guy]

23 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Notwithstanding the first frost, many of the trees are still completely green. One of the latest leaf changes that I can remember. 

It’s an odd leaf change as well… Particularly in warmer areas like the city. I notice a lot of the leaves have just dried up and started falling off the trees with out ever going through a color transformation. Almost all of the maples on my parents block in Queens are just dried up leaves. 

[uncle W]

I remember 1975 having green trees in early December when I lived in Brooklyn...an endless summer and slow step down will do that...hopefully the bottom will fall out in Dec like some past years...

[dmillz25]

Low of 38 here. Now back up to 41

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yes. Tonight or tomorrow night could see the first upper 30s there.

MPO also recorded its first freeze yesterday. The old record latest first freeze was November 1, 1920.

hard freeze Don? I think thats defined as 4 hours below 28 if I'm not mistaken?

 

[LibertyBell]

24 minutes ago, uncle W said:

I remember 1975 having green trees in early December when I lived in Brooklyn...an endless summer and slow step down will do that...hopefully the bottom will fall out in Dec like some past years...

what happened in 2001? I remember that was my latest freeze with flowers blooming after Christmas lol and new flowers coming up in February, shortest freeze season ever

 

 

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Low of 37° here in SW Suffolk with the first frost of the season on the cars and rooftops.

isn't 37 the highest temp you can get frost in?

I dont think SW Nassau got any frost....too urbanized here, we didn't even get into the 30s yet

 

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, jm1220 said:

33 here and also frost. 

no frost here, too urbanized, we didnt even get into the 30s here

 

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, bluewave said:

POU finally ends its longest above freezing streak at 210 days.

 

Number of Consecutive Days Min Temperature > 32 
for Poughkeepsie Area, NY (ThreadEx)
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Rank	Run Length	Dates
Last value also occurred in one or more previous years.
Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2021-11-02
1	210	2021-04-07 through 2021-11-02
2	197	1942-04-15 through 1942-10-28
3	194	1971-04-25 through 1971-11-04
4	190	2007-04-22 through 2007-10-28
-	190	1975-04-23 through 1975-10-29
5	183	1990-04-20 through 1990-10-19
6	178	2016-04-16 through 2016-10-10
-	178	1946-04-19 through 1946-10-13
-	178	1944-04-20 through 1944-10-14
7	177	2018-04-24 through 2018-10-17

surprised that 2001 doesnt make this list

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

41 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

isn't 37 the highest temp you can get frost in?

I dont think SW Nassau got any frost....too urbanized here, we didn't even get into the 30s yet

 

If the wind goes dead calm tonight even jfk has a chance for 32. You will have frost on colder surfaces tonight regardless. Lga and cpk have no shot

[bluewave]

Gorgeous photos of the sea smoke on the Long Island Sound with the SSTs still in the low 60s.

 

 

[jconsor]

2 hours ago, wdrag said:

So we all saw the 00z/3 EC for 11/7-8. Unlikely. It's EPS is hugely trim from that 00z/3 EC OP. GEFS even through 06z/3 has less than 0.10.  NAEFS is also weak...less than 0.20.  

However, BEYOND (there is always beyond) there is general multi model agreement for a big complex storm system with lots of precip for our area 11/13-15.  Right now 1-3", iso heavier  suggested, with ice potential possible down to I84 high terrain.  Have seen it previously non-consensus modeled too wintry for the 8th down to I84. So am not saying it will be a little icy there but this system is our next potential decently sized weather event, that may eventually warrant a thread if we get to modeled damaging wind, or 4" rains, or even ice into the interior part of our NYC subforum.  Just too early (for me).

We are soon to be due for a large Nov storm system.

I agree that the ECMWF is likely too amped and it will be tough to get significant precipitation as far west as the immediate NYC metro... however would not dismiss a high wind threat for E LI with ensembles trending  toward more consolidated system with better phasing.  Also, closely watching coastal flood threat for NJ shore and LI (astro. high tides peak 11/5-7 due to perigee as well as new moon). 

Of course, the larger risks for those threats are along the SE coast from N. FL to NC Outer Banks and in SE New England.

[bluewave]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

what happened in 2001? I remember that was my latest freeze with flowers blooming after Christmas lol and new flowers coming up in February, shortest freeze season ever

 

 

2015-2016 was even more extreme at LGA. It was their only first freeze of the season to occur in January. Then it was followed by their biggest snowstorm on record.

Frost/Freeze Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
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Year	Last	Value	First	Value	Season Length
2015	03-29 (2015)	27	01-04 (2016)	15	280
2001	03-28 (2001)	31	12-23 (2001)	32	269
1998	03-22 (1998)	31	12-22 (1998)	24	274
2011	03-29 (2011)	32	12-11 (2011)	31	256
1948	04-10 (1948)	32	12-11 (1948)	32	244

 

Maximum 3-Day Total Snowfall 
for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
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Rank	Value	Ending Date	Missing Days
Period of record: 1940-01-01 to 2021-11-02
1	28.2	2016-01-25	0
-	28.2	2016-01-24	0
	27.9	2016-01-23	0
2	25.4	2006-02-13	0
-	25.4	2006-02-12	0
3	24.2	1996-01-09	0
	23.8	1996-01-08	0
	23.3	2006-02-14	0
4	22.8	1947-12-28	0
-	22.8	1947-12-27	0

[uncle W]

13 minutes ago, bluewave said:

2015-2016 was even more extreme at LGA. It was their only first freeze of the season to occur in January. Then it was followed by their biggest snowstorm on record.

Frost/Freeze Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Year	Last	Value	First	Value	Season Length
2015	03-29 (2015)	27	01-04 (2016)	15	280
2001	03-28 (2001)	31	12-23 (2001)	32	269
1998	03-22 (1998)	31	12-22 (1998)	24	274
2011	03-29 (2011)	32	12-11 (2011)	31	256
1948	04-10 (1948)	32	12-11 (1948)	32	244

 

Maximum 3-Day Total Snowfall 
for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY
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Rank	Value	Ending Date	Missing Days
Period of record: 1940-01-01 to 2021-11-02
1	28.2	2016-01-25	0
-	28.2	2016-01-24	0
	27.9	2016-01-23	0
2	25.4	2006-02-13	0
-	25.4	2006-02-12	0
3	24.2	1996-01-09	0
	23.8	1996-01-08	0
	23.3	2006-02-14	0
4	22.8	1947-12-28	0
-	22.8	1947-12-27	0

1948 got two snowstorms a week after the first freezing day at LGA...16-19" on 12/19-20th...

[the_other_guy]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

surprised that 2001 doesnt make this list

 

What’s scary is that 2021 isn’t even close to the other years