Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Look at all the green trees in BTV. Amazing . Looks like DC 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Look at all the green trees in BTV. Amazing . Looks like DC That view looks like it couldn’t be any further from what I experienced all day today… and only like 15-20 miles away as the crow flies. Meanwhile the plows are out on the other side of Chittenden County. BTV is in another world, it’s so awesome the local variation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, powderfreak said: That view looks like it couldn’t be any further from what I experienced all day today… and only like 15-20 miles away as the crow flies. Meanwhile the plows are out on the other side of the County. Downtown BTV still half leaves.. and green ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Downtown BTV still half leaves.. and green ! They’ll give you a run for your money on first freeze by the warm lake and urban environment. You might even beat the waterfront there. Then in the spring when everyone else is leaf out that area is still chilled as icebergs float in the harbor lol. Learn the hard way at UVM how much lag BTV downtown has because of that lake. 75F in April at UVM and 46F at the waterfront three miles away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: They’ll give you a run for your money on first freeze by the warm lake and urban environment. You might even beat the waterfront there. I’ve hit 32 twice now . But no green leaves other than some random vines and underbrush . Should freeze tomorrow night finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I’ve hit 32 twice now . But no green leaves other than some random vines and underbrush . Should freeze tomorrow night finally Yeah I can tell you those green trees in the city streets haven’t sniffed freezing yet along the water and urban heat. Probably like 38F has been the coldest there, barely under 40F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I can tell you those green trees in the city streets haven’t sniffed freezing yet along the water and urban heat. Probably like 38F has been the coldest there, barely under 40F. Raleigh hit 27 the other day. Crushing TOL and BTV . Crushed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah and so did December 2005 and Jan 2009 for a couple others off top of my head. I think even Dec 2017 may have been positive but not a raging +PNA like ensembles show. Getting a raging +PNA in a Niña is very good though...even if just for a few weeks. Lots of northern stream goodies for us. Well, I was mentioning Nina events that had very negative PDO, but yea, those seasons had some PNA, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Look at all the green trees in BTV. Amazing . Looks like DC We're like barely past peak here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Well, I was mentioning Nina events that had very negative PDO, but yea, those seasons had some PNA, too. 08-09 was severely -PDO. 05-06 was not. But this year is on another level. I think Nick posted last week that this might be the most negative since the 1955-56 Niña. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmtnwx Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: They’ll give you a run for your money on first freeze by the warm lake and urban environment. You might even beat the waterfront there. Then in the spring when everyone else is leaf out that area is still chilled as icebergs float in the harbor lol. Learn the hard way at UVM how much lag BTV downtown has because of that lake. 75F in April at UVM and 46F at the waterfront three miles away. UVM is only a mile from waterfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said: UVM is only a mile from waterfront. Ha good catch, I was thinking airport for some reason. Even that mile though... everyone would be out on the Redstone campus green, sunning themselves in the first warmth of April or May. As freshmen we all made the mistake of heading down to the lake thinking it would be better to hang out there in the warmth than up on campus. Get down to North Beach and it's like 20-30 degrees colder with a wind off the 40 degree water. Back into the car and back up the hill to UVM where it was warm and outside the cold sink bubble of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 18z EURO with a change to snow Thursday night as that wave rides by? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: 08-09 was severely -PDO. 05-06 was not. But this year is on another level. I think Nick posted last week that this might be the most negative since the 1955-56 Niña. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Look at all the green trees in BTV. Amazing . Looks like DC that's incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Gfs might be coming on board. Develops a low closer to the coast. Here is the CMC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 EPS says fire up the bus. December may produce nicely in the first half. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 34⁰ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just happened to wake up around 1:30 and saw my first flakes. A nice light snow shower. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 32.0 so close… yet so far We’ll see if can drop a little more 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 We scream next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: We scream next week? Yeah huge cutter . Sou Easter screamer. Only hope is maybe they- NAO shunts it east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah huge cutter . Sou Easter screamer. Only hope is maybe they- NAO shunts it east On a positive note the storm is important to the pattern regardless of whether it ends up a rain event. Helps create blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Wentzadelphia said: On a positive note the storm is important to the pattern regardless of whether it ends up a rain event. Helps create blocking. Would be damaging SE winds and then equally damaging NW winds as modeled now. Still lots to sort out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 31.5. Below freezing finally on Nov 16. Still not a freeze though. Tonight hopefully 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah huge cutter . Sou Easter screamer. Only hope is maybe they- NAO shunts it east good warmup cutter for the grinch storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Happy Birthday Ray 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I had almost forgotten that holidays in New England always feature monstrously "historic" cutters that are "1 in a 100 years events." Fire up the atmospheric river talk, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, PhineasC said: I had almost forgotten that holidays in New England always feature monstrously "historic" cutters that are "1 in a 100 years events." Fire up the atmospheric river talk, I guess. 978mb Low over the Great Lakes next week. Maybe we can get some severe with the frontal passage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: 978mb Low over the Great Lakes next week. Maybe we can get some severe with the frontal passage? Maybe that low trends east too?? Never know this far out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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