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2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

It's a pretty deep trough with some blocking upstream in Canada which will help shortwaves rotating around it dig. Definitely something we need to keep an eye on.

 

Regardless, the first week of November looks solidly below normal. Then it looks like a bit of a torchy pattern mid-month and then we'll see if that late-month snap back to colder materializes.

Man ... purely for the entertainment of the thing, the value therein is priceless if one could see the next three days of where the GGEM solution was going with that mo'fugga..    ho man!   Beyond the kingdom of Bun.

That D8-9-10 --> leading is like that Jodie Foster "Contact" scene,  " ... No   words.   only poetry "

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13 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Man ... purely for the entertainment of the thing, the value therein is priceless if one could see the next three days of where the GGEM solution was going with that mo'fugga..    ho man!   Beyond the kingdom of Bun.

That D8-9-10 --> leading is like that Jodie Foster "Contact" scene,  " ... No   words.   only poetry "

Yeah when I saw that trough orientation and the shortwave digging around the base of it, I was thinking "It would have been nice to see another couple 12 hour panels just for kicks"

But while that exact solution is unlikely, you can see how the blockiness back in central Canada is going to aid in getting some exotic-looking evolutionns. When you have such an extreme meridional flow like that, you can have shortwave round that corner with superb efficiency. It doesn't take much room to get it to pop a big one. Typically, we'd grumble the ridge/trough axis are too far east, but not in that case. 

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21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah when I saw that trough orientation and the shortwave digging around the base of it, I was thinking "It would have been nice to see another couple 12 hour panels just for kicks"

But while that exact solution is unlikely, you can see how the blockiness back in central Canada is going to aid in getting some exotic-looking evolutionns. When you have such an extreme meridional flow like that, you can have shortwave round that corner with superb efficiency. It doesn't take much room to get it to pop a big one. Typically, we'd grumble the ridge/trough axis are too far east, but not in that case. 

Excellent trough. Definitely some features to play with as you said. 

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32 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah when I saw that trough orientation and the shortwave digging around the base of it, I was thinking "It would have been nice to see another couple 12 hour panels just for kicks"

But while that exact solution is unlikely, you can see how the blockiness back in central Canada is going to aid in getting some exotic-looking evolutionns. When you have such an extreme meridional flow like that, you can have shortwave round that corner with superb efficiency. It doesn't take much room to get it to pop a big one. Typically, we'd grumble the ridge/trough axis are too far east, but not in that case. 

This ...

I spoke about that aspect earlier yeah.  It's like the NAO D. Straight variant eitehr retrogrades to west-central Canada, or...just decays in lieu of the latter -

Either way, that is a subsume scenario as is in that lala range. But your general point is the bigger take away - in general, active stormy look may be setting up - and this time, actual cold/baroclinic physics to work with, most likely

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2 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

It's a pretty deep trough with some blocking upstream in Canada which will help shortwaves rotating around it dig. Definitely something we need to keep an eye on.

 

Regardless, the first week of November looks solidly below normal. Then it looks like a bit of a torchy pattern mid-month and then we'll see if that late-month snap back to colder materializes.

That’s typically a time where we are milder. There’s not many snow events in the first 7-10 of Nov in SNE

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42 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

That’s typically a time where we are milder. There’s not many snow events in the first 7-10 of Nov in SNE

Yeah there's been a dearth of good snow events historically in the first week of November here. We've had more impressive stuff in late October.

We did have a pretty good one though in 2012...Nov 6-7, 2012.

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10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Hopefully an early start to winter up here. It took forever to get started last year.

The temps will be plenty good for snow making for at least 5-7 days early November. But it does look like it gets pretty mild for a time mid-month. 

But at least for the ski areas, man made snow will be pretty durable as long as no torching 55-60F cutters come along with that mid-month pattern. 

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48 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah there's been a dearth of good snow events historically in the first week of November here. We've had more impressive stuff in late October.

We did have a pretty good one though in 2012...Nov 6-7, 2012.

That period is definitely due for a biggie , specifically talking elevations . Maybe not this year but my guess is in the next 25-30 years ..it happens 

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