November Discussion

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

6 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

32.0 on the nose. Still waiting for first freeze . Ridiculous 

Hard hard hard freeze here

[Great Snow 1717]

36 minutes ago, dryslot said:

I just noticed my high temp was 126°F this summer lol, I think my sensor had an issue after we lost power in a TS and messed it up if i remember correctly.

[mreaves]

36 minutes ago, dryslot said:

I just noticed my high temp was 126°F this summer lol, I think my sensor had an issue after we lost power in a TS and messed it up if i remember correctly.

Not sure where sensor 6 is but glad we’re not there!

[mreaves]

22 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I think it’s 11/12/77. Maybe the 13th. Can’t remember now. 

The weaseled a 32 on the nose last night so this year won’t break that record. ORH is running a bit warm right now too. 

Hell has frozen over. 

[PhineasC]

23 was the low here on the hill. The radiator kings were out in force in their pits I see.

[Great Snow 1717]

4 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Not sure where sensor 6 is but glad we’re not there!

[WxWatcher007]

Low of 30.3 here. Finally, a good freeze.

[NorEastermass128]

First frost here @ 34F

[Typhoon Tip]

9 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Low of 30.3 here. Finally, a good freeze.

Was it though ?

I think the definition/interpretation has been through the 'human definition adaptation mill' -

SO ... my contribution to the rumor canard is that it has to be 28 for three consecutive hours for a hard freeze. And a Freeze is < 32 but above that lower bound for 3 hours.  And a headline-able frost doesn't necessarily have to freeze. 

I could swear I read this when I was like 11 ... but maybe the 'official' definitions have changed over the years.  Or, what I read 387 years ago wasn't true to begin with.

[CoastalWx]

For the hell of it I went and looked at November 2020. I forgot we had like a week of 70s practically. Wow. That month furnaced.

[weathafella]

Heavy frost.  Low of 29.

[Snowcrazed71]

We got down home 28.4 here. 

[SouthCoastMA]

hit 38.3 here on my station..which may run a couple degrees too warm. But not close to 32. Still had some light frost buildup on the windshields

[CoastalWx]

Just now, SouthCoastMA said:

hit 38.3 here on my station..which may run a couple degrees too warm. But not close to 32. Still had some light frost buildup on the windshields

I had 36 yesterday and no frost on wind shield. Might be warm...how is it sited?

[WxWatcher007]

frost season 

 

[SnoSki14]

That's crazy how some barely hit 32 or not at all. Many places in Jersey were in the 20s this morning. Hit 30F myself.

[SouthCoastMA]

13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I had 36 yesterday and no frost on wind shield. Might be warm...how is it sited?

Roof top..but my chimney may be too close in proximity at about 10ft away. Also, I wish I had it a bit higher - it sits about 2-3 feet off the roof. 

[ORH_wxman]

Really heavy frost here.

[CoastalWx]

13 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said:

Roof top..but my chimney may be too close in proximity at about 10ft away. Also, I wish I had it a bit higher - it sits about 2-3 feet off the roof. 

That might be it. 

[WinterWolf]

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

32.0 on the nose. Still waiting for first freeze . Ridiculous 

There’s pros and cons to living on a hill.  28 and a hard freeze here. Yesterday too. 

[CoastalWx]

10 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

There’s pros and cons to living on a hill.  28 and a hard freeze here. Yesterday too. 

Now if we can get the valley to get a ZR event while he’s 35 and rain, it will be complete. 

[ORH_wxman]

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Now if we can get the valley to get a ZR event while he’s 35 and rain, it will be complete. 

You already know this....but for those that don't:

Unfortunately very rare in New England....you almost need one of those "due south wind" type events where everything is eroding but someone like Chris up in Greenfield rots at 30F for several hours with ZR and a place like ORH is 40F. But usually those type of events are very transitory....the ZR changes to rain within a few hours.

The longer duration ZR events up here all require strong ageostrophic northerly flow and usually that means it's going to be strong through the lower 2000-2500 feet in the atmosphere, so we end up with higher elevations actually doing better until you reach like 2500-3000 feet or so when the temp starts rising again.

[dryslot]

57 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said:

Roof top..but my chimney may be too close in proximity at about 10ft away. Also, I wish I had it a bit higher - it sits about 2-3 feet off the roof. 

Should be at least 5', You may be getting heat coming off the roof.

[SouthCoastMA]

2 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Should be at least 5', You may be getting heat coming off the roof.

Yeah..I may place on the opposite end of the roof anyway..and invest in a longer rod. I'm thinking this siting is really hurting my wind readings too. Max 25mph gust during the last storm when we were easily gusting over 75 or 80mph at times. 

The rain gauge is the only thing I can accurately use it for at the moment. It's been pretty spot on

[powderfreak]

1 hour ago, PhineasC said:

23 was the low here on the hill. The radiator kings were out in force in their pits I see.

We didn't drop much here last night.  27F with the thickest freezing fog I've seen in a while.  All trees in the valley looked rimed up and frosty.  It was evident that the precipitation yesterday and wet snow lurking around and just up the hillsides we fogged out almost immediately last night.  It was weird but a very thick fog and inversion formed right at the accumulation line leftover from yesterday.

It's still pea soup down in town at 30F, while its bright sunshine up at 1,500ft ha.

[Damage In Tolland]

35 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

There’s pros and cons to living on a hill.  28 and a hard freeze here. Yesterday too. 

Yup. I’ll take the elevation help with snow events . Frost and freezes are great , but the colder day time highs I prefer as well

[CoastalWx]

12 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

You already know this....but for those that don't:

Unfortunately very rare in New England....you almost need one of those "due south wind" type events where everything is eroding but someone like Chris up in Greenfield rots at 30F for several hours with ZR and a place like ORH is 40F. But usually those type of events are very transitory....the ZR changes to rain within a few hours.

The longer duration ZR events up here all require strong ageostrophic northerly flow and usually that means it's going to be strong through the lower 2000-2500 feet in the atmosphere, so we end up with higher elevations actually doing better until you reach like 2500-3000 feet or so when the temp starts rising again.

It is rare. But when it does happen (and tends to if there is snow otg to help with the inversion) he loses it.  

[Modfan2]

11 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

You already know this....but for those that don't:

Unfortunately very rare in New England....you almost need one of those "due south wind" type events where everything is eroding but someone like Chris up in Greenfield rots at 30F for several hours with ZR and a place like ORH is 40F. But usually those type of events are very transitory....the ZR changes to rain within a few hours.

The longer duration ZR events up here all require strong ageostrophic northerly flow and usually that means it's going to be strong through the lower 2000-2500 feet in the atmosphere, so we end up with higher elevations actually doing better until you reach like 2500-3000 feet or so when the temp starts rising again.

We had a ZR event maybe Nov of 2003 or 2004; I remember leaving a friends house on MA/CT with light glaze while another friend with some elevation in Charlton had a decent glazing 

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Yup. I’ll take the elevation help with snow events . Frost and freezes are great , but the colder day time highs I prefer as well

It matters most in those events anyways. You think Lava Rock is losing sleep over Taunton being colder than him? Although maybe he is losing sleep over it?  

[ORH_wxman]

2 minutes ago, Modfan2 said:

We had a ZR event maybe Nov of 2003 or 2004; I remember leaving a friends house on MA/CT with light glaze while another friend with some elevation in Charlton had a decent glazing 

Prob Nov 16, 2002. That was actually a pretty big ice storm for the elevations of N CT and far S MA. We had some ZR in ORH but a lot of sleet too so it wasn't as icy as just a bit south.