CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Gotcha, makes sense. I still think when we had that huge blow down up here like 3 October’s ago (?), I’m not convinced the winds were that much above 50mph despite acres leveled. I dunno, I still think personal perception of wind leads to over-estimates. If you can get a 2-M gust in the 40-50 range I still think that can do a lot of damage. But you are right, those trees see that NE wind built into their climo/growth. Around here I’d say the Norway Maples can break near 50 even with our climo. Such annoying trees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, CoastalWx said: Around here I’d say the Norway Maples can break near 50 even with our climo. Such annoying trees. Probably for the better lol. Get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: That’s where we’ll just have to agree to disagree, ha. I think humans are terrible at estimating winds and that leafed out tree damage occurs at a far lower wind speed than many folks think. They are in general, agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: Probably for the better lol. Get rid of them. They have been slaughtered over the last few years. I should take a pic of the ones my neighbor has. They have been sheared apart and look like something you’d see after an EF 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Taunton doesn't have Eversource. What you have .. I saw outages https://www.mass.gov/info-details/power-outages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 That same neighbor, has had his house hit 3 times by these trees. I looked after the other night and he just had some larger branches in yard. Thought to myself well that’s good. No damage. Just saw today he had another Norway fall on his shed. Unluckiest house I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 While there was damage, it was not widespread. I've said I think it was the consistency of the higher gusts that led to more damage than normal. From my own experience in these high wind events we only see a couple high gusts, this storm seemed to have these stronger gusts quite frequently. I also think TB12s area may have fared worse than mine seeing that he's further N than where I am. I don't disagree that the gusts were higher 50-100' up, but we don't measure winds there. The few trees I saw damaged were a Spruce, notoriously easy to snap, weakened oaks, white pines, or more exposed trees where a limb or multiple truck can be easily snapped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: What you have .. I saw outages https://www.mass.gov/info-details/power-outages They weren't reported to Mass.gov or MEMA Quote Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency (MEMA) has a MEMA outage map that displays service interruptions from all the electric companies on a town level. The MEMA map does not: display service interruption by road, or include power outages in territories served by municipally owned electric utilities. TMLP https://www.tmlp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: That same neighbor, has had his house hit 3 times by these trees. I looked after the other night and he just had some larger branches in yard. Thought to myself well that’s good. No damage. Just saw today he had another Norway fall on his shed. Unluckiest house I know. This guy’s rant is great… “Here’s why I hate Norway Maples: This is one dirty tree, dropping trash at all seasons, including flower buds, two crops of seeds, twigs, branches, and copious amounts of leaves. It sheds large branches from the top, then resprouts along the truck. Every time the wind blows large branches fall from the top of the tree, making me very nervous about my roof. It makes a LOT of seedlings. I spend way too much time every spring and summer in an attempt to hand pull all of them. Nothing grows underneath them. My flower beds along this neighbors fence line are empty. Every year I try to fill in these beds, and every year I watch in sadness as everything dies. It is the last tree to lose its leaves in the fall, often not until after Thanksgiving, which means that having my gutters cleaned is a game of Russian roulette. Will the leaves fall before it snows? It’s been a hit and miss proposition. I fear for my two dogs safety when they are in the yard. One of those falling branches would hurt them badly. Its shallow roots also make it prone to blowdowns.“ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: That same neighbor, has had his house hit 3 times by these trees. I looked after the other night and he just had some larger branches in yard. Thought to myself well that’s good. No damage. Just saw today he had another Norway fall on his shed. Unluckiest house I know. Just take 'em all down. I hate having large trees too close to my house having to worry about one falling and damaging it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: While there was damage, it was not widespread. I've said I think it was the consistency of the higher gusts that led to more damage than normal. From my own experience in these high wind events we only see a couple high gusts, this storm seemed to have these stronger gusts quite frequently. I also think TB12s area may have fared worse than mine seeing that he's further N than where I am. I don't disagree that the gusts were higher 50-100' up, but we don't measure winds there. The few trees I saw damaged were a Spruce, notoriously easy to snap, weakened oaks, white pines, or more exposed trees where a limb or multiple truck can be easily snapped off. See he in theory would have weaker winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: This guy’s rant is great… “Here’s why I hate Norway Maples: This is one dirty tree, dropping trash at all seasons, including flower buds, two crops of seeds, twigs, branches, and copious amounts of leaves. It sheds large branches from the top, then resprouts along the truck. Every time the wind blows large branches fall from the top of the tree, making me very nervous about my roof. It makes a LOT of seedlings. I spend way too much time every spring and summer in an attempt to hand pull all of them. Nothing grows underneath them. My flower beds along this neighbors fence line are empty. Every year I try to fill in these beds, and every year I watch in sadness as everything dies. It is the last tree to lose its leaves in the fall, often not until after Thanksgiving, which means that having my gutters cleaned is a game of Russian roulette. Will the leaves fall before it snows? It’s been a hit and miss proposition. I fear for my two dogs safety when they are in the yard. One of those falling branches would hurt them badly. Its shallow roots also make it prone to blowdowns.“ All true. Take ‘em down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Just take 'em all down. I hate having large trees too close to my house having to worry about one falling and damaging it. So there is this house I walk by all the time when I go pick up my son from school. Giant oaks in front yard close to house. I walk by every day and say to myself man I would take those out. Now part of one is through their roof. Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 8:38 PM, Angus said: just back from my parents house in Norwell. Unbelievable - if they have power by next Tuesday I would be surprised. Power lines down the entire length of the street. According to neighbors, the entire town is like this. Power came on late this afternoon - multiple national grid trucks descended on the neighborhood. Call me impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: So there is this house I walk by all the time when I go pick up my son from school. Giant oaks in front yard close to house. I walk by every day and say to myself man I would take those out. Now part of one is through their roof. Sucks. So not man Oaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: So not man Oaks No they were. Those were man winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I’ll say this.....well don’t want to jinx it, but I’m impressed with my trees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, CoastalWx said: No they were. Those were man winds. Dressed like Village People at a Truro bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Dressed like Village People at a Truro bar? Who would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Who would that be? Dickles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I loathe oaks. Stupid acorns and the leaves stay on the them right into Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Angus said: Power came on late this afternoon - multiple national grid trucks descended on the neighborhood. Call me impressed. Shit was everywhere there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: I loathe oaks. Stupid acorns and the leaves stay on the them right into Spring. They strong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I have a huge one that would be a pizza cutter through my house. My neighbors all around me have had trees down over the last few years, but I’ve only lost a limb and that was due to it being hollow. These last few big wind events have only dropped some branches. So if it can rock through these events I feel pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: They strong though. there's a reason oak is popular for hardwood flooring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: there's a reason oak is popular for hardwood flooring. Ship building too back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I will say this, the saturation of the ground prior to the winds definitely played a role. There were numerous trees in this area, and many more on the south shore that were straight up just blown over, roots out of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Power back on for us in destructionbury (copyright Scott Nogueira). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 54 minutes ago, powderfreak said: This guy’s rant is great… “Here’s why I hate Norway Maples: This is one dirty tree, dropping trash at all seasons, including flower buds, two crops of seeds, twigs, branches, and copious amounts of leaves. It sheds large branches from the top, then resprouts along the truck. Every time the wind blows large branches fall from the top of the tree, making me very nervous about my roof. It makes a LOT of seedlings. I spend way too much time every spring and summer in an attempt to hand pull all of them. Nothing grows underneath them. My flower beds along this neighbors fence line are empty. Every year I try to fill in these beds, and every year I watch in sadness as everything dies. It is the last tree to lose its leaves in the fall, often not until after Thanksgiving, which means that having my gutters cleaned is a game of Russian roulette. Will the leaves fall before it snows? It’s been a hit and miss proposition. I fear for my two dogs safety when they are in the yard. One of those falling branches would hurt them badly. Its shallow roots also make it prone to blowdowns.“ I can vouch for that, I have a couple big ones, PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, amarshall said: Power back on for us in destructionbury (copyright Scott Nogueira) . I want pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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