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So far, the storm has been only some rain overnight (possible rain/snow mix) and then some snowflakes this afternoon. I got pictures of individual snowflakes. The NWS is calling for much 2-3" and 3-4" for the city areas tonight and tomorrow-- no winter weather advisories now.

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It looks like Denver has gotten 2.5" to 4.5" today. There has been a transition to showery snow over the past couple of hours, with possibly a higher snow rate in Denver right now. As for me, I think I could still see some grass. 

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It was mostly a pretty boring storm for me. Obviously the GFS was not good, neither was the 0.7" QPF from the NWS. I mean, I think I got 0.09" of rain and 1.0" of snow. The sun completely melted the snow that fell the last two days, and it's not even warm. I think there was 5.0" for parts near or in Denver city. And.... we will get back to very cold and snow for Wednesday and Thursday, for maybe the 6th different Wednesday/Thursday this calendar year. This will also affect Nebraska and Kansas. The pattern coming up this week will be a lot more like a February type pattern, with mostly westerly flow, with a trough contained in the Northwest, rather than a distinctive upper low over the Rockies. 

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Operational GFS drops a bomb on the front range starting about hour 250. Whats the kamchatka connection say? @raindancewx

This far out is fantasy land, but the macro pattern of multiple lows tracking into the West during our month with best big storm climo gives me hope (???)

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It's pretty likely that our area will have a winter storm watch for Wednesday, then maybe winter weather advisory or worse. Tonight's WPC 72-hr forecast says 0.3" QPF for most of our cities, 0.4" Cheyenne, 0.2" Colorado Spirngs, 0.5"-0.8" over 9000 ft.

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22 minutes ago, n1vek said:

Operational GFS drops a bomb on the front range starting about hour 250. Whats the kamchatka connection say? @raindancewx

This far out is fantasy land, but the macro pattern of multiple lows tracking into the West during our month with best big storm climo gives me hope (???)

Some pretty nice model porn at least.

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3 hours ago, mayjawintastawm said:

Whatever happens, we really need a big slug of moisture. 0.6" QPF 4-5 days out turns into 0.4" at the event onset and ends up verifying as 0.2", every single time.

1000% - I don't know how much moisture this state would need to see before I say "hey, maybe let's hope this next storm falls apart before hitting here"

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4 hours ago, aggiegeog said:

Been dumping good in Northern NM this month and another 1 to 2 feet today will make this a very good late winter.

I’ve been jealousy watching the models crush Taos today and tonight from the east coast. Wouldn’t be surprised if 30+ by tomorrow. I’d love to be out there right now. 

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20 minutes ago, LaGrangewx said:

I’ve been jealousy watching the models crush Taos today and tonight from the east coast. Wouldn’t be surprised if 30+ by tomorrow. I’d love to be out there right now. 

If I wasn't so busy at work I'd happily trade my dusting I'll get tomorrow in Texas for a couple feet at my family's place south of Taos. 

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Joy, another 3" snow up here from this last "storm".  I wish I had been adding this up but have been too busy.  Literally every single snow has been in the 3" range for the past couple of months.  I wouldn't be surprised if I have racked up 24" or so in these series of events.  We are heading into big dump season, so hopefully this changes thru April.

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So, the massive storm on the 18z GFS that we talked about on Monday March 7th was certainly a fantasy storm. However, we will have a quick-moving 500mb trough moving through on Thursday March 17th. Each model shows brief but heavy snow from Denver to Colorado Springs.

Edit: 00z GFS has a lot of QPF for Denver area. So this is sure to taunt Mayjawintastawm when it doesn't work out right.

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On 3/12/2022 at 7:52 PM, Chinook said:

 

Edit: 00z GFS has a lot of QPF for Denver area. So this is sure to taunt Mayjawintastawm when it doesn't work out right.

Technique: 1) ignore models more than 48 hours out unless they all agree; 2) cut QPF forecasted at 48 hrs pre-event in half. Easier said than done, but preserves mental health and wastes less time. 

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WPC still has quite a bit QPF for Wednesday-Thursday morning/afternoon, around Denver. It is possible that the first precipitation could be in the form of rain. The 500mb trough does not seem too large, but maybe the models see the atmosphere has just enough moisture to give out, in kind of a short time frame.

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6 hours ago, smokeybandit said:

NAM is now in range and it sees a juicy storm, too.

The 00z NAM/GFS/Canadian really do like the Palmer Divide, Colorado Springs, and most of the foothills above 7000ft. GFS has over 15" above 7000ft west of Denver. Maybe the models have figured out a few more aspects of the storm, maybe not.

As for me, I believe I've gotten 39.5" since December 31st and 0.5" before December 31st. (3.10" since Dec 31st and 0.14" from Nov 1st-Dec 30th). Much of the snow that is in the shade has melted. The snow that has been in the shade for all this time is crusty snow that has been there since December 31st. Many individual days were snowy without a complete melt when it was 50-60 degrees, at least for very shady areas or small hills facing away from the sun. It's really nice to see some blue skies and 55 degrees.

Unfortunately, we can still say this late winter has still been drought/weak winter for western areas.

And, by the way, this is the one-year anniversary of the blizzard, when many of us got 20" of snow, blizzard conditions existed for many areas, and the water content was absolutely impressive, over 3" at my place.

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GFS keeps taunting us with something big. This Tuesday wave is a bit closer than fantasy range, low pressure placement will be key. From what I can tell (and have read), the Euro keeps the low tracking too far south/east for the Denver metro. Something more to watch if we can really get one of these March waves to pop. 

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