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NNE Cold Season Thread 2021/2022


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4 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Definitely a beefy snow.  We are so rarely in the bullseye for any of these that I had a hard time believing it.

I'm not 100% sure since I just measured for the first time about 2 minutes ago, but it looks about 14" new here with total depth around 21". There is a blue hue at the bottom of this new snow. Still snowing over here too.

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VERMONT

...Addison County...
  Middlebury             15.0   301 PM  2/04  Public
  Bridport               12.0   852 AM  2/04  Public
  Orwell                  8.5   901 AM  2/04  Public

...Caledonia County...
  St. Johnsbury          11.5  1234 PM  2/04  Trained Spotter
  Stannard               10.0  1006 AM  2/04  Public
  1 W Lyndonville         9.0   950 AM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  Lyndonville             9.0   825 AM  2/04  Public

...Chittenden County...
  1 NE South Burlingto   14.0   407 PM  2/04  NWS Office
  Shelburne              13.0  1243 PM  2/04  Public
  Colchester             13.0   317 PM  2/04  Public
  1 E Nashville          12.5  1212 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  1 NNW Burlington       12.3  1257 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  2 NNW Williston        11.5  1247 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  2 E St. George         11.5  1018 AM  2/04  NWS Employee
  2 NW Westford          11.5   113 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  Jericho Center         11.0   907 AM  2/04  Public
  1 S Essex Center       10.8  1040 AM  2/04  NWS Employee
  1 ENE Essex Junction   10.8  1051 AM  2/04  NWS Employee

...Essex County...
  Lunenburg               8.0  1046 AM  2/04  Public
  Island Pond             8.0   843 AM  2/04  Co-Op Observer

...Franklin County...
  Fletcher               14.0  1124 AM  2/04  Public
  Fairfax                13.5   325 PM  2/04  Public
  St. Albans             12.3   348 PM  2/04  Public
  ESE Fairfax             9.7   900 AM  2/04  CoCoRaHS

...Lamoille County...
  Wolcott                12.0   822 AM  2/04  Public
  Morrisville            12.0  1048 AM  2/04  Public
  Waterville             11.0   830 AM  2/04  Public
  Stowe                   9.0   909 AM  2/04  Public
  Cambridge               8.8  1056 AM  2/04  Public

...Orange County...
  Randolph               15.0  1052 AM  2/04  Public
  3 SW Braintree         14.5   820 AM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  Randolph Center        14.0   821 AM  2/04  Trained Spotter
  Williamstown           13.0   117 PM  2/04  Trained Spotter
  Braintree              12.6   923 AM  2/04  Public
  Thetford Center        12.0   904 AM  2/04  Public

...Rutland County...
  Killington             16.0   228 PM  2/04  Public
  2 SSE Pittsford        14.0   242 PM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  Brandon                13.0   945 AM  2/04  Public
  Mendon                 12.0   909 AM  2/04  Public
  West Rutland           12.0  1243 PM  2/04  Public
  Rutland                12.0  1153 AM  2/04  Public
  Bomoseen               12.0   827 AM  2/04  Public
  3 SSW Wallingford       8.2   118 PM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  East Wallingford        7.0   924 AM  2/04  Public
  Mt. Holly               6.0   823 AM  2/04  Public
  Danby                   5.0   856 AM  2/04  Public

...Washington County...
  Warren                 17.0   317 PM  2/04  Public
  Barre                  13.0   303 PM  2/04  Public
  4 ENE Cabot            13.0   900 AM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  Waitsfield             12.0  1228 PM  2/04  Public
  East Montpelier        11.0   943 AM  2/04  Public
  Plainfield             10.5   852 AM  2/04  Public
  1 N Calais             10.0   900 AM  2/04  Public
  4 ESE Marshfield       10.0   831 AM  2/04  Trained Spotter
  East Calais             8.5   902 AM  2/04  Public

...Windsor County...
  Rochester              14.0   228 PM  2/04  Public
  Sharon                 12.3   843 AM  2/04  Public
  Bethel                 12.0   903 AM  2/04  Public
  Woodstock              11.0   414 PM  2/04  Public
  South Royalton         10.3  1254 PM  2/04  Public
  Bridgewater            10.0   908 AM  2/04  Public
  Pomfret                 9.5   901 AM  2/04  Public
  Hartland                3.0  1226 PM  2/04  Public
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Looks like 12.5” on the level here sticking a ruler into the dog run area… that’s 4” after 5am.  Wife’s car has about 2” fluff since she got home at 2pm (about half inch per hour).

I’ll take net increases of a solid foot and over 1” of QPF all day long.

Snowbanks and town look like a winter wonderland, real ski town look.

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16 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Looks like 12.5” on the level here sticking a ruler into the dog run area… that’s 4” after 5am.  Wife’s car has about 2” fluff since she got home at 2pm (about half inch per hour).

I’ll take net increases of a solid foot and over 1” of QPF all day long.

Snowbanks and town look like a winter wonderland, real ski town look.

I love the fluffy topping we often get on the denser snow from these storms.

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Event totals: 15.5” Snow/1.67” L.E.

 

During the 6:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M. period today we picked up 1.9” of snow, which contained 0.18” of liquid.  That snow density was 9.5%, and that was right in line with the density from the previous collection period.  This evening's snow has definitely dried out more, coming in at 6.4% H2O, or a 15.6 to 1 snow to water ratio.

 

Details from the 8:00 P.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 1.4 inches

New Liquid: 0.09 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 15.6

Snow Density: 6.4% H2O

Temperature: 9.7 F

Sky: Light Snow (1-3 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 24.5 inches

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Below is the north to south listing of available snowfall totals from the Vermont ski areas that have been posted thus far for Winter Storm Landon.  It looks like storm totals dropped off rather precipitously south of Killington, which would suggest that somewhere at that latitude was the point where mixed precipitation was more prevalent.  Mount Snow was apparently far enough south that they hadn’t received any snow as of their most recent report, so that’s quite the differential from the north end to the south end of the state for totals from this storm.

 

Jay Peak: 21”

Smuggler’s Notch: 19”

Stowe: 16”

Bolton Valley: 16”

Mad River Glen: 16”

Sugarbush: 16”

Middlebury: 15”

Pico: 17”

Killington: 17”

Okemo: 6”

Bromley: 2”

Magic Mountain: 4”

Stratton: 3”

Mount Snow: 0”

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3 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Everyone around here is saying “forget nor’easters, our best snow comes from the west” lol.

Hah yeah these overrunning storms are great. They just seem easier. Less worries with the storm track, way less wind, no shadowing issues so everyone wins. Give me these and some fluffy clippers all season please.

A foot or so here with a few flakes still coming down.

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2 hours ago, PhineasC said:

Gonna call it 15” now with the moose fart dust in full effect. My measuring stick is there. 

Pretty much the same here as well. This is my biggest synoptic snowfall since I moved here...

Go figure- since I destroyed my knee and I'm basically trapped in my house...

You win some, you lose some, I guess...

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47 minutes ago, #NoPoles said:

Pretty much the same here as well. This is my biggest synoptic snowfall since I moved here...

Go figure- since I destroyed my knee and I'm basically trapped in my house...

You win some, you lose some, I guess...

Hopefully you get back on your feet soon. Stay out of those glades next time! :) 

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7 hours ago, Froude said:

Hah yeah these overrunning storms are great. They just seem easier. Less worries with the storm track, way less wind, no shadowing issues so everyone wins. Give me these and some fluffy clippers all season please.

A foot or so here with a few flakes still coming down.

Fluffy clippers seem to be from a bygone era...

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Event totals: 16.2” Snow/1.69” L.E.

 

We’ve still got some light snow falling out there, so I guess this system isn’t quite finished yet.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.7 inches

New Liquid: 0.02 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 35.0

Snow Density: 2.9% H2O

Temperature: 9.5 F

Sky: Light Snow (1-2 mm flakes)

Snow at the stake: 25.0 inches

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6"  final

Rain began late Thursday afternoon.  During the evening it very slowly transitioned to snow and sleet.  I lost a few hours of accum with temperatures sliding down through the 30's.  During the night from late evening to 3am was a peltfest.  We flipped around that time and it snowed of varying intensities all day until well into the evening.  So the 6" has a layer of sleet under the snow.

Today's choir is raking the flatter area of the roof.  Ice dams are building up

Even so we have a 15" durable pack now that has built up through many storms.  Now on to Monday's chances

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With the overnight snows, there were some additions to the storm reports for the Vermont ski areas, so I’ve got the updated north to south list below.  MRG seems to buck the north to south trend the most with their update to 23”, but they specifically state it in their snow report as their upper mountain storm total (“…tacking on another 1-2″ from last night brings the storm total to 18-23″ since Thursday.”), so that’s the current value in the list.

 

Jay Peak: 26”

Smuggler’s Notch: 22”

Stowe: 17”

Bolton Valley: 18”

Mad River Glen: 23”

Sugarbush: 18”

Middlebury: 15”

Pico: 17”

Killington: 17”

Okemo: 14”

Bromley: 8”

Magic Mountain: 5”

Stratton: 3”

Mount Snow: 1”

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Finished at 12.4" after nearly 30 hours of snowfall.  The first 11" had 1.28" LE for the 8.6 ratio, and when I was clearing it yesterday afternoon the snowblower revealed Thursday's slop.  I thought that it would freeze and make for an icy driveway.  Then the 4-11 PM feathers added 1.4" with 23.3 ratio to cover the mess.  First 12"+ in almost 4 years, pack at 26" and the views are lovely.  In Allagash the folks would say the woods were "filthy".  We found these conditions great when leading the crew, kick the sapling and dump its load on our chums.  :o

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53 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Finished at 12.4" after nearly 30 hours of snowfall.  The first 11" had 1.28" LE for the 8.6 ratio, and when I was clearing it yesterday afternoon the snowblower revealed Thursday's slop.  I thought that it would freeze and make for an icy driveway.  Then the 4-11 PM feathers added 1.4" with 23.3 ratio to cover the mess.  First 12"+ in almost 4 years, pack at 26" and the views are lovely.  In Allagash the folks would say the woods were "filthy".  We found these conditions great when leading the crew, kick the sapling and dump its load on our chums.  :o

My snowblower didn’t like that bottom layer of slop at all. It really struggled at times.  
 

 

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1 hour ago, J.Spin said:

With the overnight snows, there were some additions to the storm reports for the Vermont ski areas, so I’ve got the updated north to south list below.  MRG seems to buck the north to south trend the most with their update to 23”, but they specifically state it in their snow report as their upper mountain storm total (“…tacking on another 1-2″ from last night brings the storm total to 18-23″ since Thursday.”), so that’s the current value in the list.

 

Jay Peak: 26”

Smuggler’s Notch: 22”

Stowe: 17”

Bolton Valley: 18”

Mad River Glen: 23”

Sugarbush: 18”

Middlebury: 15”

Pico: 17”

Killington: 17”

Okemo: 14”

Bromley: 8”

Magic Mountain: 5”

Stratton: 3”

Mount Snow: 1”

I’m not surprised at MRG, it seems the biggest totals cut right through area. I ended up with 17” after a bit of fluff overnight. 

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VERMONT

...Addison County...
  1 SE Cornwall          17.3   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  1 NE South Lincoln     17.2   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Bridport               17.0   950 AM  2/05  Public
  Granville              17.0   830 AM  2/05  Public
  Weybridge              16.9   908 AM  2/05  Public
  Vergennes              15.1   456 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Middlebury             15.0   301 PM  2/04  Public
  Monkton                14.5   708 AM  2/05  Public
  1 WNW Orwell           13.5   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Starksboro             11.0   945 AM  2/05  At 1480 ft elevation.

...Caledonia County...
  Groton                 16.0   432 PM  2/04  Public
  2 WNW Wells River      14.9   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 S Wheelock           14.6   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 ESE East Lyndon      14.0   700 AM  2/05  Public
  Walden                 14.0   910 AM  2/05  Public
  Sutton                 14.0   746 AM  2/05  Public
  Saint Johnsbury        12.5   400 PM  2/04  Co-Op Observer
  East Burke             12.0   920 AM  2/05  Public
  3 NNE Danville         11.3   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 W Lyndonville        11.2   720 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  N Danville             11.0   730 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Chittenden County...
  Charlotte              18.0   400 PM  2/04  Co-Op Observer
  3 WNW Little River S   18.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  4 NNE Underhill        17.0   800 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 E Huntington         16.8   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 NE South Burlingto   16.1   649 AM  2/05  NWS Office
  5 NNE Underhill        15.9   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 E Nashville          15.1   830 AM  2/05  NWS Employee
  Richmond               15.0  1002 AM  2/05  Public
  2 NW Westford          14.9   936 AM  2/05  NWS Employee
  2 SW Milton            14.9   701 AM  2/05  NWS Employee
  Hinesburg              14.5   449 PM  2/04  Broadcast Media
  1 NNW Burlington       14.0   700 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  2 NNW Williston        13.0   551 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  Shelburne              13.0  1243 PM  2/04  Public
  Colchester             13.0   317 PM  2/04  Public
  1 S Essex Center       13.0   614 AM  2/05  NWS Employee
  1 SW Milton            12.8   635 PM  2/04  NWS Employee
  1 NNE Hinesburg        12.3   915 PM  2/04  Trained Spotter
  Jericho                11.5   717 AM  2/05  Public
  3 SSW South Burlingt   11.2   715 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Essex County...
  Averill                11.6   800 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  2 NNW Lunenburg        10.5   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Franklin County...
  St. Albans             15.7   630 AM  2/05  Public
  North Fairfax          15.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  ESE Fairfax            14.0   900 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Fletcher               14.0  1124 AM  2/04  Public
  1 NNE Swanton          11.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Enosburg Falls         10.0   944 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Highgate Center        10.0   747 AM  2/05  Public

...Lamoille County...
  Morrisville            14.0   600 PM  2/04  Public
  2 N Johnson            13.0   715 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  3 N Smugglers Notch    13.0   730 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Wolcott                13.0   835 PM  2/04  Public
  SW Stowe               11.3   730 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Orange County...
  3 SW Braintree         17.2   800 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 NNW Bradford         16.5   530 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Waits River            16.0   709 AM  2/05  Public
  Tunbridge              15.4   730 AM  2/05  Public
  2 E Corinth Corners    15.1   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Chelsea                15.0   730 AM  2/05  Public
  Randolph               15.0  1052 AM  2/04  Public
  Corinth                15.0   900 AM  2/05  At 1300 ft elevation.
  Vershire               14.5   930 AM  2/05  At 1600 ft elevation.
  Orange                 13.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  Williamstown           13.0   117 PM  2/04  Trained Spotter

...Orleans County...
  7 SE Morgan            14.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Derby Line             14.0   900 AM  2/05  Public
  1 NE Newport           13.1   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  4 NNE Greensboro       13.0   830 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 W Derby Line         12.6   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Jay                    12.0   815 AM  2/05  Public
  2 NNW Greensboro       11.5   730 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 WNW Westfield        11.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 WSW Newport          10.5   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Rutland County...
  Benson                 17.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  Killington             16.0   228 PM  2/04  Public
  1 N Rutland            15.7   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 SSE Pittsford        15.5   800 PM  2/04  CoCoRaHS
  Proctor                14.5  1005 PM  2/04  Public
  Rutland                12.0   957 AM  2/05  Public
  1 WNW Middletown Spr   11.2   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  3 SSW Wallingford       9.7   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 SSE West Rutland      8.6   800 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Shrewsbury              8.0   745 AM  2/05  Public

...Washington County...
  3 E Warren             18.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  4 ENE Cabot            17.0   900 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  3 NW Waterbury         16.2   600 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Waterbury              16.0   620 AM  2/05  Public
  3 NNW Woodbury         16.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  2 SE Waitsfield        16.0   600 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  Northfield             16.0   718 AM  2/05  Public
  East Barre             15.0   432 PM  2/04  Public
  5 E Moretown           15.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  1 ESE Plainfield       15.0   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  4 WNW Waitsfield       14.5   730 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Barre                  14.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  2 N Calais             14.0   830 AM  2/05  Trained Spotter
  Marshfield             14.0   709 AM  2/05  Public
  Plainfield             14.0   736 AM  2/05  Public
  Montpelier             12.5   730 AM  2/05  Public
  3 W Putnamville        12.5   800 AM  2/05  Public
  2 W Worcester          12.2   700 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  2 SW East Calais       11.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS

...Windsor County...
  3 N Pomfret            15.8   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Rochester              14.0   228 PM  2/04  Public
  3 NE West Hartford     13.9   915 PM  2/04  Public
  NE Rochester           12.9   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  Woodstock              12.0   800 AM  2/05  Public
  South Royalton         10.3  1254 PM  2/04  Public
  1 E Woodstock           8.4   800 AM  2/05  Co-Op Observer
  3 S Ludlow              6.5   800 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
  NNE Proctorsville       6.0   700 AM  2/05  CoCoRaHS
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A number of us were up at Bolton yesterday to catch the snow from Winter Storm Landon, so I’ll pass along some images and snow updates.

Hearing about this storm being focused on NNE, our friend Dave came up from Boston for a visit and the usual local ski country food and lodging.  It’s been a couple of years since he’s been able to visit for one of these trips, but his schedule lined up well for this one.  He actually skied Killington on Thursday and said that he almost bailed when he arrived in the morning to find it raining.  Thankfully, he found that it was much more wintry up high on the mountain, and the conditions just got better as the day went on.

There were no concerns about rain for Friday at Bolton though; everyone in the north was over to 100% snow by that point, so the only things to wonder about were snow density and snow accumulations.  Winds weren’t strong at all, so there were no wind holds, and the lifts seemed to start right up at their planned times aside from the usual smaller delays of getting the later lifts rolling on a storm day.  It was chilly out there on the mountain, with temperatures probably in the 10 F range.

The new snow was undoubtedly a solid resurfacing of the entire mountain at all elevations.  We’d picked up 1.40 of liquid equivalent down at our house by the morning, so the mountain would have had at least that much.  The snow had started out quite dense at the very initial stages of the storm as temperatures were still coming down, and then it seemed to settle down to roughly medium-weight powder for the bulk of the overnight accumulations.  My 6:00 A.M. analyses revealed snow density at 9.4% H2O, which is solidly in that medium-weight powder category.  There hadn’t really been any fluff at that point to set up an impressively right-side-up powder accumulation, so you were generally riding in that medium weight snow, and we found the best skiing on steeper terrain.  Low angle slopes were just a bit on the slow side with the available snow density.  Thankfully, with that 1 to 2 inches of liquid equivalent down, it was game on for even the steepest terrain, and steep areas that we hit such as Vermont 200, the Spell Binder headwall, and the Tattle Tale headwall all delivered.  You could attack those pitches as aggressively as you wanted, without concern.  Another great example of the resurfacing was hitting Cobrass on our second run to find that even the usual ledges and ice bulges were covered.  Initially, I’d gone in with the usual strategy of negotiating those obstacles, but quickly saw that they were irrelevant, and I was able to ski like they weren’t even there.  That’s the sign of a solid resurfacing.  With depth checks, I was generally finding settled accumulations of about a foot at that stage of the storm, which I think was right in line with what the resort had noted in their morning report.

We actually skied with an associate from PeakRankings.com who was getting info for his report on Bolton Valley, so we showed him around for a few runs.  His ski jacket has something like “WE RANK PEAKS” written in huge letters on the back, which quickly gets your attention and lets you know what he’s up to.  I had to head out around midday, but Dave and my wife did catch up with our younger son and his friends out on the mountain for some skiing.  I have to give the boys a hard time for not getting out right at the start of the morning, but one of my son’s friends did pull off a classic dual resort move to really maximize a powder day.  He headed to Stowe first thing for the typical “hour of power”, where you can get some good fresh runs before it’s all tracked up and the lift queues grow, and then he headed to low-key Bolton where you can enjoy powder for the rest of the day in peace.  I’d say he’s wise beyond his years.

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