klw Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Long article on the retirements of Sharon Meyer and Tom Messner. https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/the-retirements-of-sharon-meyer-and-tom-messner-forecast-the-end-of-an-era-in-vermont-media/Content?oid=34018378 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Skeeters were outrageous tonight at my daughter's soccer practice around dusk. Need a frost ASAP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Leaves down. Just need a little snow to make the glades skiable, ha. Still no where near a frost or freeze on the hill... but guess sunlight matters more than temperatures for leaf drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwt3650 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Leaves down. Just need a little snow to make the glades skiable, ha. Still no where near a frost or freeze on the hill... but guess sunlight matters more than temperatures for leaf drop. First fake snowstorm on the Gfs tonight…it’s coming! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 11 hours ago, powderfreak said: Leaves down. Just need a little snow to make the glades skiable, ha. Still no where near a frost or freeze on the hill... but guess sunlight matters more than temperatures for leaf drop. 9 hours ago, bwt3650 said: First fake snowstorm on the Gfs tonight…it’s coming! As we look toward the beginning of next week, that potential intrusion of colder air has been shown on the GFS and other models for quite a while – and flakes are starting to appear in the Mansfield forecast now. Don’t worry though; the forecasters in the subforum have assured us that the leaves will remain on the trees (I’m sure PF’s picture is “Photoshopped”) and there will be no chances for snow at any elevation anywhere in the Northeast through the end of the month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 Nice to see some highs under 50 appearing in the forecast at least. Still looks like relatively warm-ish nightly mins ahead. I think that's been the bigger story than the highs. Just not much radiator action recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 https://vtdigger.org/2021/10/15/mount-mansfield-still-hasnt-hit-freezing-temperatures-setting-a-record/ Quote It’s unusually warm on Mount Mansfield this year. Temperatures haven’t yet dropped to 32 degrees or below, surpassing the previous record — Oct. 6, 2011 — for the latest first freeze by more than a week and counting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwt3650 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, J.Spin said: As we look toward the beginning of next week, that potential intrusion of colder air has been shown on the GFS and other models for quite a while – and flakes are starting to appear in the Mansfield forecast now. Don’t worry though; the forecasters in the subforum have assured us that the leaves will remain on the trees (I’m sure PF’s picture is “Photoshopped”) and there will be no chances for snow at any elevation anywhere in the Northeast through the end of the month. Yeah, it looks like seeing first flakes on the peaks is a real possibility next week. I looked back to last year and I think the 17th was the first dusting. It’s hard to believe with how warm it’s been that the timing year over year would actually be fairly close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 A couple shots from the inversion the other day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Some action today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, powderfreak said: Some action today. It rained pretty hard when it came through here around 4:30. Street drains backed up for a little bit in places down in Barre City. About an inch between overnight and this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 One year ago today parts of NNE had accumulating snow. At that time I grabbed this picture from Alex's webcam. Speaking of that, I lost your link Alex. Do you still have a cam up that you can share with the forum? As for the present, about 1" of rain from the last system. The foliage is a bit weird. We were at about 75% peak and then the wind stripped a lot of leaves. So the oaks are just starting and the rest is a mix of bare, color and some green. If not for the front we were heading for a nice peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, wxeyeNH said: One year ago today parts of NNE had accumulating snow. At that time I grabbed this picture from Alex's webcam. Speaking of that, I lost your link Alex. Do you still have a cam up that you can share with the forum? As for the present, about 1" of rain from the last system. The foliage is a bit weird. We were at about 75% peak and then the wind stripped a lot of leaves. So the oaks are just starting and the rest is a mix of bare, color and some green. If not for the front we were heading for a nice peak. I was just coming to post about this. We lost power for half the day. It was beautiful while it was snowing. I love how heavy wet snow clings to everything. This year, still waiting for the first hard frost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 And while it's not white, we are getting some nasty upslope rain today. 0.35" of misery so far. Upslope rain does not hold the same appeal as upslope snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmorninglight Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Hello NNE’ers After looking for a place for almost a year, my wife and I are in the process of purchasing some land in the Adirondacks. It is near Garnet Lake in Warren Co. and has an elevation ranging from 1700’ to 2300’. I know this isn’t New England, but I thought some of you folks might give me an idea of how much snow I can expect on an average winter? Gore Mountain is about 25 minutes away to the north with a similar base elevation. They claim 150” annual, but not sure if that mid-mountain. Super excited to close on this place and start fixing the 1880 house up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 2:18 PM, wxeyeNH said: One year ago today parts of NNE had accumulating snow. At that time I grabbed this picture from Alex's webcam. Speaking of that, I lost your link Alex. Do you still have a cam up that you can share with the forum? As for the present, about 1" of rain from the last system. The foliage is a bit weird. We were at about 75% peak and then the wind stripped a lot of leaves. So the oaks are just starting and the rest is a mix of bare, color and some green. If not for the front we were heading for a nice peak. @wxeyeNH my webcam URL is in my profile, https://video.nest.com/live/vO4cJkQlWY Sorry, Gene, just saw that message now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 Let's hope we get a real freeze soon. Still having bugs around is annoying and everything is swampy around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 18 hours ago, Redmorninglight said: Hello NNE’ers After looking for a place for almost a year, my wife and I are in the process of purchasing some land in the Adirondacks. It is near Garnet Lake in Warren Co. and has an elevation ranging from 1700’ to 2300’. I know this isn’t New England, but I thought some of you folks might give me an idea of how much snow I can expect on an average winter? Gore Mountain is about 25 minutes away to the north with a similar base elevation. They claim 150” annual, but not sure if that mid-mountain. Super excited to close on this place and start fixing the 1880 house up. 2K should be good for 130-140”. Depending on wether they score 10-15” annually from any lake effect could put them up to 150” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Ready, set, go… Just testing of course, but a sign of things to come. Saw some glimpses of snow at the higher elevations but the cloud deck is very low. Would have been a nice ipslope event with about 0.5” LE but we don’t need it yet 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 17 hours ago, powderfreak said: Sounded like dynamic cooling in they heavy squall got big fat aggregates flying down to that level. You’d need a strong shower/squall most likely. All the temps around it plummeted during heavy precip and they rose a bit afterwards again. Very classic lowering of snow level in heavy precip, then back up as it wanes. I’m such a nerd/weenie for this stuff… A classic temp graph of strong dynamic cooling… then temps rising again post heavy precip. There’s accumulation down to about 2,000ft on the cams. About 500ft above the parking lot aggregates. With the cloud level this morning, options to get an idea of the accumulating snow line were limited unless you were actually going to head up to elevation. The clouds have been rising at times as of midday though, and the snow line seems to be in the 3,000’ – 3,500’ elevation range. Bolton Mountain at ~3,700’ seems to have a few hundred vertical of snow visible, so that’s been serving as a good reference point. The views of the new snow have been great, although Mt. Mansfield recently disappeared again as moisture moved in from the northwest and snow began to drop. It sure looked like snowfall vs. rain, but I checked to see the temperature has been 31-32 F up there along the ridgeline, so it’s certainly snow. When the leaves are mostly down in the mountains and you see radar like this, it’s definitely starting to feel like the season around here: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, J.Spin said: The views of the new snow have been great, although Mt. Mansfield recently disappeared again as moisture moved in from the northwest and snow began to drop. It sure looked like snowfall vs. rain, but I checked to see the temperature has been 31-32 F up there along the ridgeline, so it’s certainly snow. Ah… that latest round of snow passed through and Mansfield is visible again: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Stake photo from a coworker. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 This dude skied Stowe this morning… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 LOL that’s part dedicated and part desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Twin Mountain today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So this posted on a FB group from Pittsburg. Diamond Ridge, roughly 3000' 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmorninglight Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 9 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: 2K should be good for 130-140”. Depending on wether they score 10-15” annually from any lake effect could put them up to 150” Thanks for the reply. It’s 140 acres so it might be fun to do some backcountry skiing and boarding on the land. It has some nice dips along logging trails. Just need to clean up the trails from deadfall. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Looks like the first widespread sub-freezing morning back home. Most of the home PWS seem to have hit the upper 20s overnight between Waterbury, Stowe and Montpelier area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot21 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I went outside at 5:45, beautiful morning with the bright moon and stars, also some clouds here and there lit up by the moon. Was 25 at that time. Went back out at 7 and was 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 hours ago, powderfreak said: First freeze back home. Local Stowe CC PWS at 31/31 next door and MVL ASOS at 32/30. That took a long time to get first 32F. This freeze really seemed to happen without much warning – no thanks to the main October discussion thread of course, with the heat obsession dominating the conversation. It’s also past the end of growing season, so the BTV NWS didn’t have any frost/freeze alerts up. The calls for no snow or freezes through the entirety month really were horrible though, since we’ve now had both, with another week to go. You know it’s a decent freeze in the area though if we get down to 30F at our location, since the warmth of the river and the fog usually protect us for a while. It looks like the next chance for flakes is actually tomorrow night into Monday per the Mansfield point forecast: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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