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NNE Cold Season Thread 2021/2022


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19 minutes ago, alex said:

Another great day on the slopes. Notice the crowds lol!

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I haven’t seen Stowe this dead in a while.  We were on Nosedive without a soul and almost thought they put the Quad on hold lol.  Snow is phenomenal mid-winter powder, packed powder and wind buff.  Even the locals have packed it in it seems.

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21 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I haven’t seen Stowe this dead in a while.  We were on Nosedive without a soul and almost thought they put the Quad on hold lol.  Snow is phenomenal mid-winter powder, packed powder and wind buff.  Even the locals have packed it in it seems.

It is so much about the view out the window, especially in the shoulder seasons.  If I don't see any snow in my yard, there must not be any at all!

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5 hours ago, mreaves said:

It is so much about the view out the window, especially in the shoulder seasons.  If I don't see any snow in my yard, there must not be any at all!

That has to be it.  Because it was just downright weird.  You'll never see so few skiers at Stowe, empty chairs going up the Quad, while the entire Front is open from the top and 16" over the past 4 days or so at 3,000ft.  The ridgeline at 4,000ft seems as buried as any time this season.  The top 1,500ft is awesome mid-winter powder skiing.  And everyone has given up it seems.  It's just as good as anything mid-winter up there.

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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

That has to be it.  Because it was just downright weird.  You'll never see so few skiers at Stowe, empty chairs going up the Quad, while the entire Front is open from the top and 16" over the past 4 days or so at 3,000ft.  The ridgeline at 4,000ft seems as buried as any time this season.  The top 1,500ft is awesome mid-winter powder skiing.  And everyone has given up it seems.  It's just as good as anything mid-winter up there.

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People are lemmings. They would rather do the crowded norm and not think outside the box. Best week to ski all year.

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15 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

People are lemmings. They would rather do the crowded norm and not think outside the box. Best week to ski all year.

It's the equivalent of when you chill on the beach in September.  The temperature is at mid-summer levels, the water is at it's warmest, but the calendar has led to the population moving on.  The locals and those in the know are able to take advantage of the situation.

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7 hours ago, powderfreak said:

It's the equivalent of when you chill on the beach in September.  The temperature is at mid-summer levels, the water is at it's warmest, but the calendar has led to the population moving on.  The locals and those in the know are able to take advantage of the situation.

The surf is the best and as you found this week the powder days still exist. Good times. Looks great for corn production going forward.  Some warm sunny days and below freezing night's 

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Had to drive to Morrisville for an appointment this morning... it's easy to see why they picked Mansfield for skiing.  There is no other mountain in any direction that looks as caked and pasted white as it.  It's not even close.  If it was 1930 and I was standing around here right now, I'd be like "that's the one over there, that's where it snows."

Spring in the valley, mid-winter on the mountain.

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5 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Had to drive to Morrisville for an appointment this morning... it's easy to see why they picked Mansfield for skiing.  There is no other mountain in any direction that looks as caked and pasted white as it.  It's not even close.  If it was 1930 and I was standing around here right now, I'd be like "that's the one over there, that's where it snows."

Spring in the valley, mid-winter on the mountain.

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Top 3 day this winter at jay.  With the tram on windhold for the past 2 days, there was a foot and a half of nearly untouched powder in the woods.  Bluebird, no wind, mid 20s, EMPTY…and great snow.  Probably the best the glades will be until next January…and for the jay snow measurement doubters, was at killington yesterday and would question their 12” a lot more than jays 15…it’s not even close.

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59 minutes ago, bwt3650 said:

Top 3 day this winter at jay.  With the tram on windhold for the past 2 days, there was a foot and a half of nearly untouched powder in the woods.  Bluebird, no wind, mid 20s, EMPTY…and great snow.  Probably the best the glades will be until next January…and for the jay snow measurement doubters, was at killington yesterday and would question their 12” a lot more than jays 15…it’s not even close.

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Real special late season event in VT for sure. The pics from you and PF tell the tale for sure. Nothing “fake” about it. 

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Yep…late March is often the “secret” for New England skiing. Most of my best days have come in March. Photos look great everyone…thanks for sharing. I didn’t get out this season which was a bummer but I’ll definitely be getting out next year. My son is ready to hit the slopes for the first time. 

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2 hours ago, PhineasC said:

Real special late season event in VT for sure. The pics from you and PF tell the tale for sure. Nothing “fake” about it. 

Truthfully though, it’s really only special in the context of this season. This is not all that unusual most years    

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26 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Truthfully though, it’s really only special in the context of this season. This is not all that unusual most years    

It’s true, shoulder season snow happens at elevation.  This season you definitely take the under with the forecast but it came through.  Three days of whitened ground that melts throughout the day in the valley… but 1500ft+ along the Spine was in the sweet spot.

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Climo for March 2022:

Avg temp:  29.81   +2.34
Avg high:   39.87   +1.27   Highest  61° on the 18th
Avg low:     19.74   +3.40   Lowest  -10° on the 1st

Precip:  2.97"   -0.54"   4th consecutive BN March and 7th of the last 8.  YTD is 0.76", precip is 92% of avg.
Max day:  0.68"   12th and 19th

Snow:  10.0"  -6.4   Also 4th consecutive BN
Max day:  3.5" on the 12th
Avg. depth:   15.4"   -2.4"   
Season TD for SDDs:  1,512 (and probably <10 more unless April brings siggy snow.)   Avg:  1,763   Median: 1,478 
Deepest:  23" on 2nd/3rd

Grade:  D for both temp and snow.  (Maybe D- for snow given the pitiful largest event.)

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14 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Tomorrow evening signal looks ok for at least some flake flying.  Maybe 3-4" at the hill?

Flow looks more unblocked so may deposit precip along the Spine and eastern slopes?  Several questions, no where near a slam dunk but potential for a couple inches.

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I’ve been seeing the potential for snow on the back side of this system since the end of the last one, and there’s certainly a signal there on the models like the GFS and NAM that typically pick it up.

It’s already snowing at ridgeline level based on the view from the Sugarbush 3,900’ snow stake webcam, and the snow levels are expected to drop to even the lower valleys tonight.  I see the BTV NWS is thinking the potential for 3-6” above 2,500’, so we’ll certainly be watching.  It could be nice timing for Saturday morning turns.

 

Area Forecast Discussion

National Weather Service Burlington VT

1014 AM EDT Fri Apr 1 2022

NEAR TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/...For VT a similar type scenario will unfold, but colder air in the mid/upper slopes arrives slightly later. Expecting snow levels above 2500 feet thru 18z, supported by progged 850mb temps btwn -1C and -3C, while 925mb temps hover on either side of 0C. However, similar to NY zones, expect snow levels in VT to quickly lower by 21z, as 925mb temps drop below 0C and fall btwn -1C and -4C by 00z this evening. Total snow accumulations wl be dusting to 2 inches below 1500 feet, 2 to 4 inches 1500 to 2500 feet and 3 to 6 inches above 2500 feet in the favorable upslope regions of the central- northern Greens from Mt Allen to Mansfield to Jay Peak area.

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