PhineasC Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Sweet pics. Always nice to get on the board and get the monkey off your back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jculligan Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Awesome pics from the other side of the Notches today! We had a snow shower here in Jackson around 4pm but it was brief without any accumulation. We'll get it soon enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, PhineasC said: Sweet pics. Always nice to get on the board and get the monkey off your back. These "surprise" snows will never ever get old. Sure there were signals for it to be decent (in fact models did have some heavier QPF bullseyes nearby) but you sort of toss that stuff for a lighter fare event. I don't know, there was nothing that said it would rip snow for like 4-5 hours straight of 1"/hr or even more at times at higher elevations. I figured it would be like yesterday where one squall comes through and whitens stuff up, but not the consistent barrage. I love snowfall like this so much more than the events you track for like a week straight, stressing over model runs, ha. Just stuff where you think a dusting to an inch but it turns into an actual event. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Bread and butter starting up early. Let's hope it bodes well for the rest of the early season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Graupel is like adding hail to snow accumulations. Just seems false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Event totals: 0.3” Snow/0.28” L.E. After just 0.02” of liquid in the gauge this morning at observations time, today’s snow brought another 0.26” to add some oomph to this event. We certainly got some good whitening of the area this afternoon, but accumulations were transient down at our elevation and 0.2” is the most I saw here at our site. The precipitation did start out as some rain and mix this morning before changing over to all snow, but I don’t really have a split on the bit of precipitation on the front end that might have been rain, so I’m just rolling all the L.E. into the snow. Details from the 8:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.2 inches New Liquid: 0.26 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 0.8 Snow Density: 130.0% H2O Temperature: 34.3 F Sky: Flurries Snow at the stake: 0” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Graupel is like adding hail to snow accumulations. Just seems false. I'd disagree (shocking, ha)... but to me it's very much a cold season precipitation type vs. hail. I think it stands out more this time of year, but in the land of squalls, FROPAs, etc we do see graupel at times all season long. I mean if I woke up to a couple tenths of wind-blown dippin' dots on the windshield, I'd know it precipitated and it was frozen. Often see in more unstable upslope events that those small white balls can make up a decent amount of the accumulation. I do get this time of year it seems borderline to call it "snow" accumulation. But it is included at other times of the season on the other hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, powderfreak said: I'd disagree (shocking, ha)... but to me it's very much a cold season precipitation type vs. hail. I think it stands out more this time of year, but in the land of squalls, FROPAs, etc we do see graupel at times all season long. I mean if I woke up to a couple tenths of wind-blown dippin' dots on the windshield, I'd know it precipitated and it was frozen. Often see in more unstable upslope events that those small white balls can make up a decent amount of the accumulation. I do get this time of year it seems borderline to call it "snow" accumulation. But it is included at other times of the season on the other hand. When it briefly tries to coat but melts 5 minutes later, I’d probably say trace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Anyways, go snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot21 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 17 out there right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 23 was the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 14 hours ago, powderfreak said: These "surprise" snows will never ever get old. Sure there were signals for it to be decent (in fact models did have some heavier QPF bullseyes nearby) but you sort of toss that stuff for a lighter fare event. I don't know, there was nothing that said it would rip snow for like 4-5 hours straight of 1"/hr or even more at times at higher elevations. I figured it would be like yesterday where one squall comes through and whitens stuff up, but not the consistent barrage. I love snowfall like this so much more than the events you track for like a week straight, stressing over model runs, ha. Just stuff where you think a dusting to an inch but it turns into an actual event. I guess this is one where we have both the lakes and the mountains to thank for that classic 255-260° hookup that was rolling initially, and of course there was some WNW flow later as well. The minor waves/disturbances did their part too, but the whole thing probably wouldn’t have amounted to a hill of beans were it not for the lakes and mountains. I haven’t quite found an image for that hookup yet, but I did find one to give the spine some props. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 14 hours ago, powderfreak said: These "surprise" snows will never ever get old. Sure there were signals for it to be decent (in fact models did have some heavier QPF bullseyes nearby) but you sort of toss that stuff for a lighter fare event. I don't know, there was nothing that said it would rip snow for like 4-5 hours straight of 1"/hr or even more at times at higher elevations. I figured it would be like yesterday where one squall comes through and whitens stuff up, but not the consistent barrage. Maybe you’ll have the opportunity to see the tenor of another shot soon. I figured this overall event was generally winding down today, but I saw on the models, most obvious in the mesoscale realm, that there’s another pulse of moisture in play that should be something to watch into tomorrow morning. There’s a ~260° connection off Ontario that’s most obvious on the 3K and 12K NAM. It varies from model to model, but it’s enough to get into the near term BTV NWS AFD: Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Burlington VT 735 AM EDT Thu Nov 4 2021 NEAR TERM /THROUGH FRIDAY/... As of 735 AM EDT Thursday...another round of lake effect precipitation is expected later this afternoon as an upper level disturbance moves through. Not anticipating as widespread areal coverage as yesterday, nor as intense showers, given weaker instability and lack of unidirectional wind shear....regardless though a few scattered rain/snow showers mainly for the Adirondacks and into the northern VT area expected this afternoon/evening. Light snow accumulations are likely over the higher terrain (less than one inch) with mainly rain or trace amounts of snow for the valleys. Temps will continue below normal across the area today with highs in the low to mid 40s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Have some light snow falling again at the mountain. Just some weak radar returns and just lazy flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Earlier when the sun was out... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Some nice shots PF...glad to see the snow fall where it normally starts. I think after next weekend the tide turns a bit to more natural stuff along with retention. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Damn PF, looks like true winter form already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 35 and sunny here. Decent cold shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot21 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Had some graupel and then light snow, stuck in the shady spots where the sun doesn't hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 Does it count as a snowpack if I still have a dusting by my snow stake? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: Earlier when the sun was out... What a beautiful image! This morning I saw some pics from the NC mountains of snowliage and we are stuck in the 40's in Raleigh. Love it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, PhineasC said: Does it count as a snowpack if I still have a dusting by my snow stake? Looks like you found the best snow preservation spot you could find, ha… north/east side of house? The early season coatings are great times to see the cold/shady spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 hours ago, PhineasC said: Damn PF, looks like true winter form already. Luckily from a distance 3-6 inches look the same as 3-6 feet… it’s all just white . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 4, 2021 Author Share Posted November 4, 2021 It was a good spot last winter so I figured as good a spot as any. LOL I have another stake on the south side (MD one in the pic yesterday that gets tons of sun) so I can compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I mean you gotta if you want to compete with your neighbor’s snow depths in April/May . What that did remind me of is that’s how Stowe’s terrain on Mansfield can be but on a huge scale… NE aspects with something blocking direct sun above. It’s like a much smaller scale of the Mansfield Stake, doesn’t see direct sunlight for like 5 months lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Some graupel on the windshield this morning, and white ground 2 miles south. About 9 days later than average for 1st frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Had some “heavy dusting” this morning from the ski areas snowguns lol. Took this video. Very pretty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 That's awesome Alex! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 So that's how @alex pads those totals. I may need to hit my snow stake spot with the snow blower a couple times to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 16 hours ago, PhineasC said: So that's how @alex pads those totals. I may need to hit my snow stake spot with the snow blower a couple times to compensate. Haha it doesn’t really cause any accumulation. It’s more like diamond dust. A sprinkling of snow is still hanging tough in the shade though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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