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NNE Cold Season Thread 2021/2022


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Looks great guys. Solid event up there.

I hated this event..ha. 60 mph gusts, lost a good chunk of shingles, another screwgie in SVT. Every event seems to screw us down here somehow this year. Had some OK snow once winds went calm this afternoon..total was about 5" between wind blown dense stuff and post wind stuff.. Snow growth was really never good.

I think Mitch only had little over 6" and so did the local cocorahs guy at 1800' past Bromley near me as of 430pm, stuck between the forcing in Mass and the mid levels up north I guess?

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Just about done here I think. We'll end up a little shy of 9" by the time all is said and done. So many of our storms this season have featured dense low ratio snow, it was nice to have a low density event for a change. Easiest shoveling of the winter. Depth is back up to 17 inches.

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I measured 5.5” when I cleared my board at 7:30. My first clearance was 6.25” at 1:30. I measured 2” at 7:30 am but left that until the 1:30 clearing. This the closest I have ever come to doing an “official” type of measurement, with the clearing every 6 hours. So 11.75” so far. There is probably the .25” I need for a foot out there but I’ll wait til morning to figure that out. Overall, a nice event and an over performer for me. 

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VERMONT

...Addison County...
  Addison                 9.0   500 PM  2/25  Public
  Ferrisburg              8.3   400 PM  2/25  Public
  Monkton                 8.0   530 PM  2/25  Public
  Middlebury              6.3   255 PM  2/25  Public

...Caledonia County...
  Groton                  8.0   445 PM  2/25  Public
  Sutton                  7.9   735 PM  2/25  Co-Op Observer
  West Danville           7.5   440 PM  2/25  At 1600 ft elevation.
  1 NW Kirby              5.0   600 PM  2/25  Public
  East Hardwick           5.0   205 PM  2/25  Public
  East Burke              4.8   440 PM  2/25  Public

...Chittenden County...
  1 NNW Burlington        9.2   700 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  2 NW Westford           8.9   718 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  Charlotte               8.0   500 PM  2/25  Public
  1 SW Milton             8.0   515 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  Hinesburg               8.0   445 PM  2/25  Broadcast Media
  1 NE South Burlingto    7.9   700 PM  2/25  NWS Office
  1 S Essex Center        7.9   745 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  1 SW Hinesburg          7.8   305 PM  2/25  Public
  2 SW Milton             7.8   609 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  1 S Burlington          7.5   430 PM  2/25  Public
  2 NNW Williston         7.4   615 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  Essex Center            7.0   400 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  Burlington              6.4   215 PM  2/25  Public
  1 E Nashville           6.0   458 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  1 SSW Underhill         6.0   530 PM  2/25  Public
  4 NNE Underhill         5.5   234 PM  2/25  CoCoRaHS
  1 E Jericho             5.5   300 PM  2/25  Public

...Essex County...
  Maidstone               7.4   545 PM  2/25  Public

...Franklin County...
  3 NNE St. Albans       10.0   730 PM  2/25  Public
  St. Albans              9.5   545 PM  2/25  Public
  Georgia Center          8.7   445 PM  2/25  Public
  Lake Carmi State Par    8.2   400 PM  2/25  Public
  2 E St. Albans          8.0   315 PM  2/25  Public
  North Fairfax           7.0   340 PM  2/25  Public
  Franklin                7.0   211 PM  2/25  Public
  2 SSE St. Albans Bay    7.0   315 PM  2/25  Public
  1 S Fairfax             6.5   400 PM  2/25  Public

...Grand Isle County...
  Alburgh                10.5   500 PM  2/25  Public

...Lamoille County...
  2 ESE Underhill Stat    9.0   600 PM  2/25  Elevation 3000 ft
  Morrisville             8.5   640 PM  2/25  Public
  Jeffersonville          8.0   430 PM  2/25  Public
  1 SSE Smugglers Notc    7.0   300 PM  2/25  Public
  Johnson                 7.0   330 PM  2/25  Public
  1 NW Stowe              7.0   615 PM  2/25  Elevation 750 ft
  Cambridge               4.5   230 PM  2/25  Public

...Orange County...
  Washington             11.0   708 PM  2/25  Public
  Williamstown           11.0   430 PM  2/25  Public
  Orange                 10.5   614 PM  2/25  Public
  Brookfield             10.0   525 PM  2/25  Public
  Chelsea                 9.5   620 PM  2/25  Public
  Randolph                9.0   544 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  Tunbridge               8.6   530 PM  2/25  Public
  Bradford                7.0   445 PM  2/25  Public

...Orleans County...
  Newport                 8.5   400 PM  2/25  Co-Op Observer
  Derby Line              8.5   415 PM  2/25  Public
  Newport Center          8.0   215 PM  2/25  Public
  4 NNE Greensboro        7.4   439 PM  2/25  CoCoRaHS
  Craftsbury              7.0   215 PM  2/25  Public
  Coventry                6.7   435 PM  2/25  Public

...Rutland County...
  Forest Dale             7.0   530 PM  2/25  Public
  2 SSE Pittsford         7.0   540 PM  2/25  CoCoRaHS
  1 NE Brandon            6.0   300 PM  2/25  Public
  Castleton               6.0   230 PM  2/25  Public
  Brandon                 5.0   215 PM  2/25  Public
  3 ESE Shrewsbury        4.5   415 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  South Wallingford       4.5   335 PM  2/25  Public
  West Haven              4.0   215 PM  2/25  Public
  3 SSW Wallingford       3.3   230 PM  2/25  CoCoRaHS

...Washington County...
  1 SW East Barre        12.2   530 PM  2/25  NWS Employee
  Moretown               12.0   605 PM  2/25  Public
  Barre                  10.5   600 PM  2/25  Public
  South Barre            10.5   500 PM  2/25  Public
  Northfield             10.5   635 PM  2/25  1500 ft elevation
  Calais                 10.0   725 PM  2/25  Public
  Waitsfield             10.0   339 PM  2/25  At 1500 ft elevation.
  Plainfield              8.5   530 PM  2/25  Public
  1 NW Waitsfield         8.0   300 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  1 NW Calais             8.0   415 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  1 SSE Walden            8.0   400 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  East Calais             7.5   610 PM  2/25  Public
  4 ESE Marshfield        7.5   419 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter

...Windsor County...
  Rochester               9.0   600 PM  2/25  1700 ft
  Pomfret                 8.5   605 PM  2/25  Public
  Woodstock               8.0   530 PM  2/25  Public
  1 NNE Pomfret           7.9   747 PM  2/25  Public
  5 NNW Hartland          7.7   747 PM  2/25  CoCoRaHS
  3 S Ludlow              7.5   730 PM  2/25  Trained Spotter
  1 W South Royalton      7.5   400 PM  2/25  At 900 ft elevation.
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8 hours ago, mreaves said:

@Ginx snewxwatching the news report on this now. 30 cars involved, one death and 7 injured. Part of 89 northbound still closed.  Nasty accident, had to be terrifying. Your wife was involved in a big one a few years ago wasn’t she?

2015 Yes 42 car 6 tractor trailer on NJ Turnpike. The car she was in was hit 4 separate times. No injuries, they were on their way to pick up 16 rescue dogs behind the transport van which wasn't hit. We still have one of those rescues.

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Event totals: 12.0” Snow/0.65” L.E.

 

The skies cleared out overnight, so that marks the end of Winter Storm Oaklee, and the above totals are the final numbers for here at our site.  The total liquid picked up here was right in line with the modeling consensus, and kudos to the BTV NWS for their usual great forecasting – their 8-12” range that was forecast in this area was right on track.  With the given liquid, those higher snow ratios were required to get into that accumulation range, but those ratios went way up as the storm progressed.

 

Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations:

New Snow: 0.4 inches

New Liquid: 0.01 inches

Snow/Water Ratio: 40.0

Snow Density: 2.5% H2O

Temperature: -2.4 F

Sky: Mostly Clear

Snow at the stake: 17.0 inches

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10 hours ago, mreaves said:

I measured 5.5” when I cleared my board at 7:30. My first clearance was 6.25” at 1:30. I measured 2” at 7:30 am but left that until the 1:30 clearing. This the closest I have ever come to doing an “official” type of measurement, with the clearing every 6 hours. So 11.75” so far. There is probably the .25” I need for a foot out there but I’ll wait til morning to figure that out. 

That’s great to hear about the snowboard and getting in some 6-hour collection intervals for the storm.  It seems like your accumulation numbers were right on track with what I was getting here.

Now all you need to do is join CoCoRaHS, and start getting accumulation cores so you can report liquid.  Just ask Ginx, he’s a big advocate for getting people join.  Plenty of people just get snow depths though and don’t necessarily do cores for winter storms.

CoCoRaHS had sent me a couple of extra Stratus gauges for backup/replacement, so my wife took one of those and now reports from her school site in Morrisville with her first grade class.  Her students had been doing daily weather observations for years, but now they get to work on their numbers as part of their daily weather routine with the liquid from the gauge.

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3 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

Looks like you northern Vermont guys should get a refresher Sunday with that front coming through.

It actually looks like there’s a bit of NNE bread and butter style pattern setting up on the heels of Winter Storm Oaklee.

Next up in the storm queue appears to be a low pressure system moving through Quebec tonight and coming into the area tomorrow afternoon, with squalls and a reinforcing shortwave.  The forecast suggests accumulations of 1-3” around the area.

After that, there’s a clipper-type system shown in the models for Tuesday night into Wednesday.

The BTV NWS mentions the next potential system for Wednesday night into Thursday as part of their discussion, but they say that one lacks upper level support and would probably only be flurries or a dusting.  Some of the models do more with it though, so it’s certainly something to keep an eye on.

Then, the models are showing possibility for next weekend, but the suggestions right now would be for a larger system that might be associated with some warm air, so not really a northern stream bread and butter type system.

Still, that’s four potential systems in about a week, so there’s a lot of potential in the immediate future.

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Latest GYX disco points to a “snowy week” ahead for the mountains given the persistent NW flow and disturbances moving through one after the other. Would be nice to finally get a good run of upslope days to stack up some powder. Happy to take a break from synoptic stuff and just let climo and geography take over. 

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14 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Think I might've backed a little farther from the river.  :lol: 
Reminded me of my first spring (1976) in Ft. Kent, with bedroom-size ice chunks 3-4' thick were thudding against the base of the 3' diameter elm on river's edge.  That tree had been debarked 6-7 feet higher on the river side 2 years earlier when a week-long jam 30 miles upriver at Dickey let go.  The water rose 20' in 2-3 minutes in Ft. Kent, with ice chunks on Main Street breaking the plate glass storefront windows.  Two summers later work began on the dike to protect West Main up to a 32' flood.  The 2008 flood reached 30.8 and did lots of damage on the unprotected east side.

Finished with 6.2" of 14:1 fluff.  The new snow plus clear and calm allowed the temp to radiate down to -17 this morning.  Mid -20s in Aroostook. 

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1 hour ago, J.Spin said:

That’s great to hear about the snowboard and getting in some 6-hour collection intervals for the storm.  It seems like your accumulation numbers were right on track with what I was getting here.

Now all you need to do is join CoCoRaHS, and start getting accumulation cores so you can report liquid.  Just ask Ginx, he’s a big advocate for getting people join.  Plenty of people just get snow depths though and don’t necessarily do cores for winter storms.

CoCoRaHS had sent me a couple of extra Stratus gauges for backup/replacement, so my wife took one of those and now reports from her school site in Morrisville with her first grade class.  Her students had been doing daily weather observations for years, but now they get to work on their numbers as part of their daily weather routine with the liquid from the gauge.

Yes yes yes!!

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Below is the north to south listing of available snowfall totals from the Vermont ski areas for Winter Storm Oaklee.  It looks like the numbers are a bit lower down to the south, perhaps due to the increased snow ratios that appeared with the latter part of the storm up north.

 

Jay Peak: 16”

Burke: 8”

Smuggler’s Notch: 13”

Stowe: 10”

Bolton Valley: 11”

Mad River Glen: 15”

Sugarbush: 12”

Middlebury: 12”

Suicide Six: 10”

Ski Quechee: 12”

Pico: 9”

Killington: 9”

Okemo: 7”

Bromley: 10”

Magic Mountain: 8”

Stratton: 9”

Mount Snow: 9”

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My 9.25" of snow brings me up to 44" for the season.  Not as much as Boston and most in SNE but at least I'm moving up on the AMWX snow board.  This snow if just like all the "fake" snow you guys north of me get.  The new  pack is already down to 5 or 6" as it compacts, melts and sublimates.  A glaciated snow cover would barely be dented on a day like today.

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Yeah, sun is getting strong. 20 degrees but still settling and some melting. Sure would be nice to have my old 30" pack right now instead of about 8"

This new pack would disappear in about 10 minutes in a cutter.

Let's get some fluff on it this week at least. If I can't build pack, I'd rather it at least snow constantly and keep refreshing.

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This morning we headed out to the hill to check out the snow from Winter Storm Oaklee.  Having clear skies, comfortable winter temperatures, and about a foot of fresh snow held the potential for some great skiing.  As noted in observations here in the thread, the storm cycle progressed into some impressive 2-4% H2O champagne, and indeed what we found out there at Bolton was some very high quality powder.

The denser (~10% H2O) snow from the front end of the storm cycle wasn’t too evident underfoot actually, so the only major downside of today’s powder skiing was that it wasn’t quite bottomless.  Depending on the pitch, you were certainly touching down on the subsurface, but on everything except for the steepest terrain, the powder turns were quite good.  On moderate angle terrain you could typically get by with 80-90% bottomless skiing, and because the powder was just so incredibly dry, you could ride it on lower angle terrain and it skied really well because of such low impedance.

Measurements throughout the morning revealed plenty of 8-12” powder depths, and we just ended up staying down at Timberline for our entire session because there was rarely a lift queue of note.  A lot of trails weren’t open simply because the headwalls didn’t have quite enough snow to cover them up fully, but routes were available to traverse below them, and all that terrain was just loaded with quality powder.  We generally stayed on piste because there was plenty of powder available there, and it was the better option anyway.  Some off piste areas are dicey because of the recent warmth, but the off piste areas that are typically protected from the warmth and are well manicured were in great shape, so we did have some nice turns in those spots.

A few shots from today’s outing:

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