CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, jbenedet said: 4/15 is when the window opens for it. But I’m not feeling confident and acting on it until after the 25th. Where I’m at, it isn’t early *unless* you get the very poorly timed sig cold weather pattern. We have also talked at great length about the ++ temp anomalies being greatest at night. I’m seeing this here, throughout the year... Basically, all I’m trying to say is we have seen things mild up but it has NOT translated to longer growing season. WHY? I think the long term trend has been increasing though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Plus you’re the Pope. Can’t you just wave your hand and flowers burst through the ground as you do so? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, CoastalWx said: I think the long term trend has been increasing though? Yeah the growing season at CON has been increasing for every new normal period. Someone is hitting the bloody marys early today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, dendrite said: 4/15 isn’t close to climo even where you are. Heck we can get highs below freezing in mid April…nm lows. You guys are dense. We are getting the sig BN *patterns* consistently in early to mid fall and early to mid spring. The ++AN weather and patterns in winter. Got it? That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I think the long term trend has been increasing though? Yes but just lagging much further behind. It’s strange bc just like our discussion—consensus is it’s getting warmer, but vast majority still planting and growing according to old climo. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Well anyways we may see a good legit airmass later next weekend? Overall it’s a GOAK trough so Canada is generally mild. That limits cool potential. I wouldn’t call it furnace, but generally AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Yes but just lagging much further behind. It’s strange bc just like our discussion—consensus is it’s getting warmer, but vast majority still planting and growing according to old climo. Why? I can’t find the 61-90 data right now but the growing season for CON used to be late May into mid September. Heck look at the difference the last 10 years made at CON… Last 32°, First 32°, growing season 1981-2010: May 19, Sep 24, 127 days 1991-2020: May 8, Oct 3, 146 days Of course that’s an average so we still get freezes near June and freezes in mid September like last year. I’m not trying to bust your balls, but 4/15 is early no matter how you slice it. Maybe you get away with it one year, but there’s times where we can pull off a freeze that time of year even with CAA mixing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 39 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Good lord what an absolutely beautiful morning. Moose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jbenedet said: Yes but just lagging much further behind. It’s strange bc just like our discussion—consensus is it’s getting warmer, but vast majority still planting and growing according to old climo. Why? Bc normals matter less in New England when it’s normal to have a anomalies . Cold Early season anomaly are hitting frequently in fall and spring...doesn’t that answer the question pretty straightforwardly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Nice and crisp out there. Not a cloud in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jbenedet said: Yes but just lagging much further behind. It’s strange bc just like our discussion—consensus is it’s getting warmer, but vast majority still planting and growing according to old climo. Why? Record late frosts/freezes up here this year. Seems like an odd time to try and make that point. “Growing” season seems to be getting longer and longer for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, dendrite said: I can’t find the 61-90 data right now but the growing season for CON used to be late May into mid September. Heck look at the difference the last 10 years made at CON… Last 32°, First 32°, growing season 1981-2010: May 19, Sep 24, 127 days 1991-2020: May 8, Oct 3, 146 days So in 10 years, the SNH growing season increased by almost 3 weeks on average (19 days)? Thats one huge gain in only 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Moose? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Record late frosts/freezes up here this year. Seems like an odd time to try and make that point. “Growing” season seems to be getting longer and longer for sure. Feels like some people are still in denial that the climate has rapidly changed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Terrible news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, SnoSki14 said: Feels like some people are still in denial that the climate has rapidly changed. I didn’t get that impression in the least. Every part of the discussion this morning looks to acknowledge the warming climate. So much so that it is assumed and Pope was wondering how growing season has been affected. Honestly don't get that denial vibe at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, powderfreak said: So in 10 years, the SNH growing season increased by almost 3 weeks on average (19 days)? Thats one huge gain in only 10 years. You should see the increases on the CT shoreline. Many areas now have over 200 growing days. This is a cool study where they had temperature data all the way back to 1788 at Yale. The average length of the growing season over the past 47 years (1973-2020) is 26 percent higher than the average length of the growing season from 1788 to 1866, an increase from 126 days to 159 days. Since 2004, the length of the growing season has been equal to or exceeded the modern-era average every year, but five. https://longislandsoundstudy.net/ecosystem-target-indicators/length-of-growing-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Terrible news Get ready for more depressing weather. Probably lots of clouds and stagnant temperatures in the 50s/60s all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Many will probably see their first freeze date occur in the upper 15th percentile (later than normal). Growing season continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 What a contrast. Dark gloomy and cold at home. Bright sunshine (though still nippy) in Conway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Socked in with clouds at 46 but it’s dry. More normal temps here today I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Looks like next weekend; early next week could feature some pretty cool temps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Partly to mostly sunny and 61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Looks like next weekend; early next week could feature some pretty cool temps Yeah the 24-26th window has potential for freezing temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Looks like next weekend; early next week could feature some pretty cool temps Yeah Sat AM/Sun AM/Mon AM on the GFS look to have at least some sub-freezing in New England. Sun/Mon here. I'm sure some will say toss, no freezes until Thanksgiving. At some point climo will kick in as several NNE sites around that time are near freezing for average lows. The problem is we just haven't been able to get a clear, high pressure in... which is what next weekend looks like right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 We go from Lawntober into Mowvember. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Nice day today-feels crisp. Days of de-skunking continue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I didn’t see the EPS as a furnace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I didn’t see the EPS as a furnace. Yeah it wasn’t cold but nothing like recent days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, weathafella said: Yeah it wasn’t cold but nothing like recent days. Yeah that’s what I said earlier too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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