Cary67 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, buckeye said: Temperate and moist Of course TAMPON is temperate and moist pacific oscillation neutral. JK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 This storm could be a sign of things to come. One can only hope 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Ready for some sleet pellets the size of Jonger's nuts. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyweather Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Noticing blocking tendencies on the gefs already. Interesting 240 hr Euro was showing strong Greenland block for around the end of the month. Optimist in me says the trend is your friend. Pessimist says we’ll blow the goods before it’s time to use them and bring out the suicide booth gif for yet another brown Christmas. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXYankee Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Hoping for above normal temperatures and well below normal snowfall but, I live in Ohio so I’ll just prepare for another winter that goes from November to May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, luckyweather said: 240 hr Euro was showing strong Greenland block for around the end of the month. Optimist in me says the trend is your friend. Pessimist says we’ll blow the goods before it’s time to use them and bring out the suicide booth gif for yet another brown Christmas. You dont want cold in early October, every early October I can remember where it was cold and had snow ended up being a shitty winter. Bank that cold for later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino27 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 12 hours ago, wxisfun said: Certainly wasn't the case last winter (or ever, really). We had several inches of snow in late April last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 hours ago, wxisfun said: Doesn't change the fact that last spring was quite warm for most of the sub forum, including Ohio. Also, can I say last summer lasted until November since we had temps near 80 in early-mid November? If you may recall, last November was very warm. Yellowknife is calling your name. Everyone here outside of a couple people want just snow, not snow and bitter cold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 8:04 AM, Frog Town said: Those of us in the lower lakes region have to recognize this up coming system as about the perfect set-up for an epic winter storm....of course it's late September and we'll never get it to happen in January. October storms NEVER seem to repeat in January whereas November storms have a pretty good history of doing so. Tbh, September storms like we just had are such a rarity/oddity that I can't even guess at our odds of a repeat this winter but they have to be better than an October storm. After nearly 31 years I have returned to my native CWA here in SEMI. I'm exactly in the midpoint of Plymouth-Canton in Wayne cnty just about 8 miles NW of KDTW. Not really a big metro guy, but this works ok for me. Hopefully I've brought a magnet or luck charm or something with me lol. I moved to Traverse 9-5-90, and 2 months to the day I moved-in was greeted with a 15" concrete mixer storm at my new place. Was there in 96-97 for their snowiest winter of record (200+ mby). Then moved to South Bend that summer to escape such madness of endless white, just to rendezvous with blizzards in '98/99/00 there. Went to Marshall in '02 and got both 08-09 and 13-14 a virtual tie for snowiest/coldest winters in that region at an impressive 100" each. Both my parents were city of Detroit natives. I now reside exactly 20 miles west of where my grandparent's home was a century ago. Talk about full circles. Now my own memory of Detroit's "great winters" would include 74-75 with the December monster, 81-82 with at least 20" depth in much of the region, Jan '99 the last time KDTW reported a 24" depth OTG. Then ofc the more recent great seasons including the record-breaking 2013-14. Oh, and KDTX isn't afraid to issue a "watch", unlike my previous office. As for this week's rain storm, a winter version would've been more akin to the April 1886 2-footer than Jan '78, which shafted this area via the WTOD cutting snow totals in half for a few unlucky SEMI counties including Genesee where I was a youth at the time. Winds were still wicked but only worked with 8.5" of new snow and didn't really hold a candle to Jan of '67 for that region. I feel like I've moved to the least snowy place in my life, but obviously Detroit does have it's moments and I'm perfectly fine if another historical something wants to come around this winter. Pulling for SEMI again! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 11 hours ago, RogueWaves said: October storms NEVER seem to repeat in January whereas November storms have a pretty good history of doing so. Tbh, September storms like we just had are such a rarity/oddity that I can't even guess at our odds of a repeat this winter but they have to be better than an October storm. After nearly 31 years I have returned to my native CWA here in SEMI. I'm exactly in the midpoint of Plymouth-Canton in Wayne cnty just about 8 miles NW of KDTW. Not really a big metro guy, but this works ok for me. Hopefully I've brought a magnet or luck charm or something with me lol. I moved to Traverse 9-5-90, and 2 months to the day I moved-in was greeted with a 15" concrete mixer storm at my new place. Was there in 96-97 for their snowiest winter of record (200+ mby). Then moved to South Bend that summer to escape such madness of endless white, just to rendezvous with blizzards in '98/99/00 there. Went to Marshall in '02 and got both 08-09 and 13-14 a virtual tie for snowiest/coldest winters in that region at an impressive 100" each. Both my parents were city of Detroit natives. I now reside exactly 20 miles west of where my grandparent's home was a century ago. Talk about full circles. Now my own memory of Detroit's "great winters" would include 74-75 with the December monster, 81-82 with at least 20" depth in much of the region, Jan '99 the last time KDTW reported a 24" depth OTG. Then ofc the more recent great seasons including the record-breaking 2013-14. Oh, and KDTX isn't afraid to issue a "watch", unlike my previous office. As for this week's rain storm, a winter version would've been more akin to the April 1886 2-footer than Jan '78, which shafted this area via the WTOD cutting snow totals in half for a few unlucky SEMI counties including Genesee where I was a youth at the time. Winds were still wicked but only worked with 8.5" of new snow and didn't really hold a candle to Jan of '67 for that region. I feel like I've moved to the least snowy place in my life, but obviously Detroit does have it's moments and I'm perfectly fine if another historical something wants to come around this winter. Pulling for SEMI again! How did I miss this? Welcome back to SE MI! Hope your first winter back is a good one. What brought you back this way? I would argue the snow depths of 2014 were far more impressive than 1999 because of longevity. Official peak depth was 20" in 2014 but snow depths of 16-20" lasted 2 months whereas 1999 was incredible but a flash in the pan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 This pattern in the winter would be active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: This pattern in the winter would be active Rex block for a week. Stagnant CONUS pattern. Screams active 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 10:58 AM, michsnowfreak said: How did I miss this? Welcome back to SE MI! Hope your first winter back is a good one. What brought you back this way? I would argue the snow depths of 2014 were far more impressive than 1999 because of longevity. Official peak depth was 20" in 2014 but snow depths of 16-20" lasted 2 months whereas 1999 was incredible but a flash in the pan. Several things. A change of life seasons, a new job, and a desire to live in a bigger city all came together in 2021. Thanks for the welcome back! Nothing will top 13-14 for Detroit proper, but elsewhere across SMI (like KBTL) for instance, 81-82 actually beat 13-14 in most snow depth categories, though interestingly, both had exactly the same max depth at 22" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, madwx said: Rex block for a week. Stagnant CONUS pattern. Screams active Upcoming patern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Upcoming patern. The upcoming pattern is nothing of note. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 11:06 PM, RogueWaves said: October storms NEVER seem to repeat in January whereas November storms have a pretty good history of doing so. Tbh, September storms like we just had are such a rarity/oddity that I can't even guess at our odds of a repeat this winter but they have to be better than an October storm. After nearly 31 years I have returned to my native CWA here in SEMI. I'm exactly in the midpoint of Plymouth-Canton in Wayne cnty just about 8 miles NW of KDTW. Not really a big metro guy, but this works ok for me. Hopefully I've brought a magnet or luck charm or something with me lol. I moved to Traverse 9-5-90, and 2 months to the day I moved-in was greeted with a 15" concrete mixer storm at my new place. Was there in 96-97 for their snowiest winter of record (200+ mby). Then moved to South Bend that summer to escape such madness of endless white, just to rendezvous with blizzards in '98/99/00 there. Went to Marshall in '02 and got both 08-09 and 13-14 a virtual tie for snowiest/coldest winters in that region at an impressive 100" each. Both my parents were city of Detroit natives. I now reside exactly 20 miles west of where my grandparent's home was a century ago. Talk about full circles. Now my own memory of Detroit's "great winters" would include 74-75 with the December monster, 81-82 with at least 20" depth in much of the region, Jan '99 the last time KDTW reported a 24" depth OTG. Then ofc the more recent great seasons including the record-breaking 2013-14. Oh, and KDTX isn't afraid to issue a "watch", unlike my previous office. As for this week's rain storm, a winter version would've been more akin to the April 1886 2-footer than Jan '78, which shafted this area via the WTOD cutting snow totals in half for a few unlucky SEMI counties including Genesee where I was a youth at the time. Winds were still wicked but only worked with 8.5" of new snow and didn't really hold a candle to Jan of '67 for that region. I feel like I've moved to the least snowy place in my life, but obviously Detroit does have it's moments and I'm perfectly fine if another historical something wants to come around this winter. Pulling for SEMI again! I didn't know you moved. What brought you over to the Detroit area? EDIT: Never mind. I see your response above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 FWIW, I've heard someone mentioned the fall pattern so far is looking similar to 2010. Of course, if that's the case, I think a lot of folks would be happy with a repeat of the winter that came after it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 5 hours ago, madwx said: Rex block for a week. Stagnant CONUS pattern. Screams active Have it happen now and not in January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Gonna lock in for 10 months because that's what patterns do now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 The fall weather pattern can often give hints to the winter pattern but not always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: The fall weather pattern can often give hints to the winter pattern but not always Yep. Entire first half of Oct 2013 was endless summer...then the flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 2 hours ago, RogueWaves said: Yep. Entire first half of Oct 2013 was endless summer...then the flip BUT NOT ALWAYS!!! QUIT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 BUT NOT ALWAYS!!! QUIT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!!!that straight up trade proposal is looking lopsided now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: that straight up trade proposal is looking lopsided now. . You are always so negative. Lighten up. Lol smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 Of course with a la nina possibly coming on there is a potential we could torch this winter if the southeast ridge is too strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted September 29, 2021 Share Posted September 29, 2021 5 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: Of course with a la nina possibly coming on there is a potential we could torch this winter if the southeast ridge is too strong If I lived in Indiana I would probably not buy a snow shovel this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted September 29, 2021 Author Share Posted September 29, 2021 Having to contend with a se ridge wouldn't be a strange concept particularly in a Nina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyweather Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Tabloid quality forecast, I doubt this guys has any training, but it’s September so why not?https://snowbrains.com/direct-weather-winter-early-start/Also Judah C touches PV going into early winter in latest blog:https://www.aer.com/science-research/climate-weather/arctic-oscillation/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 You are always so negative. Lighten up. Lol smhonly the less informed think that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: only the less informed think that. . And arrogant. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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