LibertyBell Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said: oh, you will. i'm not really sure what is supposed to stop their march north. tree-of-heaven can be found throughout SNE and it's not like our climate is that different. there's no natural predators yet. they are an amazingly prolific bug when they get a foothold. we need to have helicopters start spraying insecticides around here. I dont know what they're waiting for, these things aren't going away on their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 15 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said: oh, you will. i'm not really sure what is supposed to stop their march north. tree-of-heaven can be found throughout SNE and it's not like our climate is that different. there's no natural predators yet. they are an amazingly prolific bug when they get a foothold. Have 2 of those trees on my property. I'll probably need to take them down in the spring. They are caked with lantern flies and are slowly dying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 RIP Norm Macdonald 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan76 said: RIP Norm Macdonald Wow sad...I've been watching some of his routines lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, FPizz said: Have 2 of those trees on my property. I'll probably need to take them down in the spring. They are caked with lantern flies and are slowly dying. cant spray anything on them to kill these pests en masse? I'd look for the strongest available pesticide and douse them with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Dan76 said: RIP Norm Macdonald now we'll never know where he got his ideas from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etudiant Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: cant spray anything on them to kill these pests en masse? I'd look for the strongest available pesticide and douse them with it Better option would be to find a bug or bird that really relishes Lantern Flies. That has minimal side effects and is pretty much self regulating, Maybe China would sell it to us cheap, seen that they gave us the Lantern Fly and the Emerald Ash Borer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, etudiant said: Better option would be to find a bug or bird that really relishes Lantern Flies. That has minimal side effects and is pretty much self regulating, Maybe China would sell it to us cheap, seen that they gave us the Lantern Fly and the Emerald Ash Borer. I wonder who their main predators are. Seems like our fauna is just as shocked to see them as we are. Fortunately they haven't made it to Long Island yet but I guess it's just a matter of time. We have these on the east coast and those monstrous murder hornets on the west coast. I wonder what's next? FWIW those murder hornets look so artificial that it makes me wonder if THEY were created in a lab lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I wonder who their main predators are. Seems like our fauna is just as shocked to see them as we are. Fortunately they haven't made it to Long Island yet but I guess it's just a matter of time. We have these on the east coast and those monstrous murder hornets on the west coast. I wonder what's next? FWIW those murder hornets look so artificial that it makes me wonder if THEY were created in a lab lol the problem is in the very nature of generalist and specialist predators. generalist predators, like spiders, mantids, will kill and eat this bug, like they kill and eat many bugs, but they don't seek it out or have an evolutionary niche in killing it, and so are not particularly effective at control, especially against the kind of population density the lanternfly can accomplish. chickens are also generalist predators but can eat much more than a typical density of insect predators, and can better locally control lanternflies. specialist predators, that might hunt a specific species basically exclusively and control it, aren't here for the lanternfly because of course the lanternfly is not only unknown to the northeast but has poor analogues in the animal kingdom for other insects that are here. around the world there any many specific species or genera of insects which are controlled by one specific wasp species. wasps are like antibodies in the insect world. there is a wasp species Anastatus orientalis which is under investigation because it parasitizes the spotted lanternfly with, apparently, a high specificity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albedoman Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, LibertyBell said: cant spray anything on them to kill these pests en masse? I'd look for the strongest available pesticide and douse them with it this will do it. Kills them within a few days. Best stuff to use. https://www.domyown.com/bifen-xts-p-1236.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said: the problem is in the very nature of generalist and specialist predators. generalist predators, like spiders, mantids, will kill and eat this bug, like they kill and eat many bugs, but they don't seek it out or have an evolutionary niche in killing it, and so are not particularly effective at control, especially against the kind of population density the lanternfly can accomplish. chickens are also generalist predators but can eat much more than a typical density of insect predators, and can better locally control lanternflies. specialist predators, that might hunt a specific species basically exclusively and control it, aren't here for the lanternfly because of course the lanternfly is not only unknown to the northeast but has poor analogues in the animal kingdom for other insects that are here. around the world there any many specific species or genera of insects which are controlled by one specific wasp species. wasps are like antibodies in the insect world. there is a wasp species Anastatus orientalis which is under investigation because it parasitizes the spotted lanternfly with, apparently, a high specificity. This would be an exotic species of wasp not native to our area? Let's hope introducing it here does not cause unforeseen side effects (as has happened before.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 a truly unbearable sweltering summer day for sept 15... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, nycwinter said: a truly unbearable sweltering summer day for sept 15... TORCH!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 the problem with pesticides is that they take down beneficial insects too 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, forkyfork said: the problem with pesticides is that they take down beneficial insects too kinda like antibiotics they kill your good gut bacteria.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 43 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: TORCH!!! At first I thought this was your method for dealing with the lanternflies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, Maureen said: At first I thought this was your method for dealing with the lanternflies. good idea... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, nycwinter said: kinda like antibiotics they kill your good gut bacteria.. also drug resistance.... we also get that with pesticides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, forkyfork said: the problem with pesticides is that they take down beneficial insects too are the so-called "natural" ones any better (the ones made from plant extracts that plants use to ward off insects.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, nycwinter said: a truly unbearable sweltering summer day for sept 15... hey it's my birthday I'll celebrate it even if it's a torch haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: are the so-called "natural" ones any better (the ones made from plant extracts that plants use to ward off insects.) natural bug killer is still bug killer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, LibertyBell said: hey it's my birthday I'll celebrate it even if it's a torch haha The Ides of September. May there be many more ahead of you in the decades to come. As always …. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Early start to winter ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 hours ago, MJO812 said: Early start to winter ? so you dont believe climate models when it comes to climate change but you do believe in this huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: so you dont believe climate models when it comes to climate change but you do believe in this huh? Uh ? I just posted this. I see alot of people touting an early start. I hope we don't get any snow until December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Lol Giants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Rjay said: Lol Giants awesome all our local teams are like clones of each other in every sport lol (except the Islanders, they've played well the last two seasons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 @Rjaytis a glorious day at Notre Dame, a bit warm but we manage, we manage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: @Rjaytis a glorious day at Notre Dame, a bit warm but we manage, we manage. Maybe they can squeak one out against Purdue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 12 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: @Rjaytis a glorious day at Notre Dame, a bit warm but we manage, we manage. Booooooo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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