DeltaT13 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: There is some good news about the climate this summer. In regards to Arctic Ice coverage: "We may have reached the area minimum on 9/1....we're currently about 75k above the 9/1 value of 3.19 million sq km. Still a bit too precarious to call it, but if we had a 9/1 area min, that would be the earliest min since 1992." Also this is happening this week Thats from the remnants of ol Hurricane Larry! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Thats from the remnants of ol Hurricane Larry! Fascinating. How common is it to have tropical remnants cause a massive snowstorm? Even if it’s that far north. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 The 1804 New England hurricane (also known as the Storm of October 1804) was the first tropical cyclone in recorded history known to produce snowfall, with Hurricane Ginny in 1963, Hurricane Sandy in 2012, and Hurricane Zeta in 2020 being the next such systems to do so. An unusual late-season storm in 1804, it yielded vast amounts of snow, rain, and powerful winds across the northeastern United States. Prior to its approach towards the East Coast of the United States, it passed through the Caribbean Sea on 4 October, and later emerged near Georgetown, South Carolina. By early on 9 October, a trough near the Virginia Capes turned the disturbance toward New England. Soon thereafter, the hurricane's abundant moisture clashed with an influx of cold Canadian air, leading to the deepening of the resulting pressure gradient and provoking inland intensification. While situated over Massachusetts, it attained its peak intensity of 110 mph (175 km/h), undergoing an extratropical transition. Even as it drifted towards the Canadian maritimes, consequently gradually weakening, precipitation persisted for another two days before the snowstorm finally subsided on 11 October. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_New_England_hurricane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 54 minutes ago, lakeeffectkid383 said: Fascinating. How common is it to have tropical remnants cause a massive snowstorm? Even if it’s that far north. Not sure, probably happens more than we realize as I rarely check in on storms that are that far north. Pretty cool though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Color change in leaves has become a lot more noticeable the past couple of days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Just got back from Old Forge and the foliage is changing up there already, a lot of red and orange. Was up there for 3 day's. Had a great time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Revracer800 said: Just got back from Old Forge and the foliage is changing up there already, a lot of red and orange. Was up there for 3 day's. Had a great time. I just moved my winter camp out of old forge. Gets too crowded now in winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Another bust today. Glad I didn’t waste my time going down to see yet another line of storms get torn up and spit out by the lake…. Fizzle Fizzle! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cny rider Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Revracer800 said: Just got back from Old Forge and the foliage is changing up there already, a lot of red and orange. Was up there for 3 day's. Had a great time. You do any mountain biking up there? I keep meaning to go try out the trails. It sounds like they have built an impressive network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 6 hours ago, lakeeffectkid383 said: Fascinating. How common is it to have tropical remnants cause a massive snowstorm? Even if it’s that far north. It wasn’t a massive snowstorm, but we moved from Tennessee to Buffalo as Sandy moved inland and cut to the north. I remember driving through some decent snow showers on and off between Cincinnati and Cleveland. (I also remember the miles-long caravans of utility repair trucks, rolling eastbound towards NYC/NJ.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 4 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Another bust today. Glad I didn’t waste my time going down to see yet another line of storms get torn up and spit out by the lake…. Fizzle Fizzle! The Sizzle Sizzle didn't fail here. Warmest in the state yet again...temp shot up 8 to 10 degrees the second SW flow kicked in. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Lots of 80s incoming. Sniff, sniff. Sniffle. Have fun in your pools! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Seeing this gets me so excited for lake effect season! Check out the band that has just been pumping in off Georgian Bay for the past 6 hours. Looks like it’s even seeding a little convection off Ontario into WNY. Almost Lake Effect time! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 57 minutes ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Seeing this gets me so excited for lake effect season! Check out the band that has just been pumping in off Georgian Bay for the past 6 hours. Looks like it’s even seeding a little convection off Ontario into WNY. Almost Lake Effect time! Lake effect really is the most fascinating type of weather IMO. It’s so mesoscale and so localized it’s so cool to see how conditions can vary so much over such a short distance. Where else in the country could you have 7 feet of snow and 10 miles away green grass literally. Just so cool and definitely getting pumped that we’re moving towards that season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 15 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Another bust today. Glad I didn’t waste my time going down to see yet another line of storms get torn up and spit out by the lake…. Fizzle Fizzle! Yeah I had everything ready to go chase and watched it fall apart so never left the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 11 hours ago, TugHillMatt said: Lots of 80s incoming. Sniff, sniff. Sniffle. Have fun in your pools! I'm not closing my pool until Nov 1st this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 2 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Seeing this gets me so excited for lake effect season! Check out the band that has just been pumping in off Georgian Bay for the past 6 hours. Looks like it’s even seeding a little convection off Ontario into WNY. Almost Lake Effect time! Yep this was a torrential downpour right over my house as I was about to get on my motorcycle for work this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Both GFS and euro have the warmest temps on Tuesday/Wednesday out ahead of the next cold front..As of now the best chance for 80°+ , besides that most of the"real" heat stays to the south with temps in the 70s most days.. Monday into Monday night, a stationary boundary will lie along or just south of the NY/PA line. It will then surge back northward on Tuesday as a warm front in response to troughing aloft over the northern Plains and Midwest. Weak mid-level impulses move across the stationary then warm front later Monday into Tuesday, so will place SChc PoPs in for Monday afternoon across much of the region in the vicinity of the boundary, with Chc PoPs in for Tuesday afternoon as the boundary pushes back northeast through the area as warm front. Right now appears that greatest chances of showers and some thunder will occur along and east of the warm front, mainly Finger Lakes to central, north central New York. Otherwise, expect a good deal of dry time. Warm and more humid with highs above 80 for much of the area except North Country which stays east of warm sector. Majority of guidance in agreement with primary mid-upper level trough and associated cold front impacting the Northeast and Mid Atlantic states Wednesday into Thursday. This time around GFS is slower with the front though. Run-to-run consistency not the greatest so not sure how much stock to put in that idea. Overall forecast has the greatest chances for showers and some thunderstorms Wednesday afternoon as the front crosses and combines with peak heating. However, signal is there that could see convection as early as Tuesday night after midnight. Chances for showers gradually wane into Thursday as the primary trough axis and sfc front shift east of western and north central NY and high pressure builds across the Great Lakes. Even behind the cold front though, it is looking more likely temps will remain above normal in the mid to upper 70s. Only the GFS, which again has pretty poor run-to-run continuity, is showing something cooler than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Here's the two hottest days on the euro over the next 10.. Wednesday might not even get that hot depending on the timing of the front.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 Here in Buffalo there is a chance we hit 80 for the next 10 days. We're at +.7 so far this month. Likely another above average month incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Maybe a "chance" but NWS has 0 over the next 7 days as of now for kbuf..A couple/few upper 70s that could turn into 80° .. Wednesday looks to be an early high as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Maybe a "chance" but NWS has 0 over the next 7 days as of now for kbuf..A couple/few upper 70s that could turn into 80° .. Wednesday looks to be an early high as well.. You may have clicked closer to the lake. I show 80 on Sunday, 81 on Tuesday, 80 on Weds and high 70s the other days. Either way pretty toasty for mid September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: You may have clicked closer to the lake. I show 80 on Sunday, 81 on Tuesday, 80 on Weds and high 70s the other days. Either way pretty toasty for mid September. Thanks Yeah that was DT buffalo I posted.. Yeah kbuf itself seems to be a couple degrees warmer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 I’m pretty sure sandy dropped over 3 feet to mountains of West Virginia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: I’m pretty sure sandy dropped over 3 feet to mountains of West Virginia. Yeah I think that sounds about right. I got the goods(6" in Queens) a week later. Mighty impressive for early November 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: I’m pretty sure sandy dropped over 3 feet to mountains of West Virginia. Yes you are right on that one but that was in the mountains of WV the last week in October. This is the second week in September right at sea level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: Yeah I think that sounds about right. I got the goods(6" in Queens) a week later. Mighty impressive for early November Yeah one of my favorites lol That storm was nicknamed the "son of sandy", it was a coastal system that developed about 10 days after Sandy.. It was originally forecast to go inside the"bm" with coastal rain and inland snow, system decided to go east of the BM leaving inland with a mix and coastal regions with heavy cement lol Forecast was 38° and rain where I was living in CNJ, within an hour of precipitation it was 33° with heavy snow.. Twelve hours later we finished with a little over a foot of wet snow, a great surprise indeed lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Many people also didn't have power restored yet so it made it harder on the crews as well as the people with no power.. Luckily I had power restored in time and the snow didn't cause it to go back out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaistDeepSnow Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I guess there is no one to chase that storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, WaistDeepSnow said: I guess there is no one to chase that storm. I'm leaving for Greenland tonight. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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