Ghost of Ida Impacts Thread

[Hoth]

Radar starting to light up across Long Island. It's go time.

[Damage In Tolland]

3 minutes ago, Hoth said:

Radar starting to light up across Long Island. It's go time.

A bunch of us had early start too. We wild uns 

[CoastalWx]

It’s coming. We pour.

[IowaStorm05]

I said it was suddenly closing in half an hour ago and people made fun of me 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

19 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Jesus. Those are some damn expensive homes too 

any guesses on strength? Strong EF1 of EF2

[NorEastermass128]

Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

any guesses on strength? Strong EF1 of EF2

Looks like a 3 to me. 

[Diggiebot]

1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

any guesses on strength? Strong EF1 of EF2

Ef3 homes torn apart 

[Hoth]

1 minute ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Looks like a 3 to me. 

Agree. That's some impressive damage.

[moneypitmike]

61* and all this rain---it feels like Christmas Eve.

[radarman]

24 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Jesus. Those are some damn expensive homes too 

The damage to a couple of those manicured lawns alone outdid the entire state of Oklahoma this year

[Damage In Tolland]

6 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

any guesses on strength? Strong EF1 of EF2

The only one close to that tonight was 2011 in Brimfield/ Monson. That was easily high end EF3. That one was bigtime 

[NeonPeon]

22 minutes ago, dendrite said:

Jesus. Those are some damn expensive homes too 

I am struggling to evaluate this comment. Surely it's better a tornado hits the houses of rich people. Less dense, less economic impact, over insured, more able to absorb temporary impact on loss of home...

Or am I supposed to care about some suburban house in Jersey out of some reverant middle class consciousness?

[Torch Tiger]

wasn't '79 kinda like this? though in early Oct

[KoalaBeer]

10 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

any guesses on strength? Strong EF1 of EF2

Sam Emerson does some really good and highly accurate radar analysis of some of these TORs. You know it’s bad when the top three analogs were storms in MS, OK, and SD.

[Brewbeer]

1.25 so far outside Springfield.

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[Damage In Tolland]

4 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

wasn't '79 kinda like this? though in early Oct

That was totally different. That wasn’t a TS remnant. That was south flow funneling up valley 

[Hoth]

6 minutes ago, NeonPeon said:

I am struggling to evaluate this comment. Surely it's better a tornado hits the houses of rich people. Less dense, less economic impact, over insured, more able to absorb temporary impact on loss of home...

Or am I supposed to care about some suburban house in Jersey out of some reverant middle class consciousness?

Would you care more if they buried their power lines?

[radarman]

2 minutes ago, KoalaBeer said:

Sam Emerson does some really good and highly accurate radar analysis of some of these TORs.

Very interesting analysis but given the low sample size of northeastern tornadoes specifically you might be comparing primarily against systems on the prairies/plains.  Not totally clear if the lofted debris has the same characteristics everywhere... In other words are rain soaked deciduous leaves showing up the same as dry cottonwood leaves, grasses, roof shingles, etc?  I don't know the answer 

[All Wet]

8 minutes ago, NeonPeon said:

I am struggling to evaluate this comment. Surely it's better a tornado hits the houses of rich people. Less dense, less economic impact, over insured, more able to absorb temporary impact on loss of home...

Or am I supposed to care about some suburban house in Jersey out of some reverant middle class consciousness?

I think it's a tragedy when anyone's home is damaged or destroyed.

[CoastalWx]

It’s not EF4. That’s stronger than the Springfield 2011 TOR which you could argue reached that briefly. Probably high end EF2. McMansions can be cookie cutter structures that are made well but not that well.

[WxWatcher007]

A lot of flooding reports coming in from NJ 

[JC-CT]

It's basically looking like a few tors, a flash flood or ten, and power outages for months.

[KoalaBeer]

8 minutes ago, radarman said:

Very interesting analysis but given the low sample size of northeastern tornadoes specifically you might be comparing primarily against systems on the prairies/plains.  Not totally clear if the lofted debris has the same characteristics everywhere... In other words are rain soaked deciduous leaves showing up the same as dry cottonwood leaves, grasses, roof shingles, etc?  I don't know the answer 

Good points. I don’t know the answer either. What I do know is a lot of his previous analysis has been within ~10mph or so of being correct. Either way I’d guess EF3 but as @CoastalWxjust said just because they are nice houses, doesn’t mean they were constructed all to well. It will be interesting to see the survey that’s for sure. 

[crossbowftw3]

1 minute ago, WxWatcher007 said:

A lot of flooding reports coming in from NJ 

Being nearby in adjacent SENY I can verify—4” and counting, likely seeing 6+ here.

[IowaStorm05]

Rain is steady here now, mostly dark greens. Heavier yellow is just to our west 

[crossbowftw3]

1 minute ago, crossbowftw3 said:

Being nearby in adjacent SENY I can verify—4” and counting, likely seeing 6+ here.

And we have also largely avoided the severe threat by being on the more stable side of the storm, have been just a constant steady stream of moderate rain all day long.

[wxeyeNH]

Very light rain up here the past 2 hours.  Seems like the northern edge (me) might have been overdone.  New Euro says 2" for me but I don't see it

18Z Euro precip amounts came down slightly in SNE but still 3 to 4.25" for everyone

[Torch Tiger]

21 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

That was totally different. That wasn’t a TS remnant. That was south flow funneling up valley 

Yeah I went back and compared the U/A stuff, not much similarity

[ORH_wxman]

12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

It’s not EF4. That’s stronger than the Springfield 2011 TOR which you could argue reached that briefly. Probably high end EF2. McMansions can be cookie cutter structures that are made well but not that well.

Agreed. The 2011 damage was significantly greater and that was a high end EF3 (though you can make a legit argument for low EF4). 

Hard to say what that NJ one was without more damage pics to reference...it was at least a solid EF2 anyway. Possibly EF3. If those structures were pretty high-end, then EF3 for sure.