Typhoon Tip Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, weathafella said: Probably downtown. It’s not like they had airports in 1915. Lol, true but...there are other reasons humanity can and do stupidly place official thermometer houses/ob sites where they do - it doesn't have to be airports per se. Frankly, I'm not sure why - anywhere for that matter - these temperatures have to be out around those civility escapes. Obviously more usefulness in climate science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 LOL, Kev. The added online station does make you eat your own words. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Where do you see cool and BN on that chart Ginxy just posted? Theres literally a climo line on them for easy reference. Almost every day looks to average AN on that prog. Unable to read charts = charts are wrong despite evidence to the contrary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Lol but the charts were too cool Ktoll We are not talking about MBY. I am talking about where official records are kept . There’s a big difference. I thought that was clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: LOL, Kev. The added online station does make you eat your own words. He’s comparing his charts to MBY. Not BDL/ ORH etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: We are not talking about MBY. I am talking about where official records are kept . There’s a big difference. I thought that was clear Cept the charts are for Mansfield a stones throw from you. Cause nobody likes me, everybody hates meThey want me to go eat some worms (I hope you offended)And drag my name through the mud, through the dirtBut I'ma make you eat your words (I hope you offended)You can try to hold me down, but you better let me up'Cause you're only gonna make things worse (I hope you offended)'Cause I swear when I get up, I'm never gonna let upTill everybody eats my turds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: He’s comparing his charts to MBY. Not BDL/ ORH etc Kmansfield is close my man. Not able to read charts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 We definitely don’t do true “autumn” feel like we used to when I was a kid 20 or so years ago. Mostly warm with some cooler days sprinkled in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Supernovice said: Edit: Quoted the wrong post Tip--The question on my mind... as a fan of your Hadley cell observations etc for many yrs....do we see a snap-back mid/late Oct- snowbomb? The +2sd anomalies have to be offset somewhere/ at some point right? I know that's an oversimplification but? To be fair ... I am not sure that it is mine, per se. But I get what you meant... I am not sure which came first, my bloviating, or whether reviewed/officiated science on the matter was just happening all along unwittingly to myself - probably the latter. With millions of minds looking, pensively peering over environmental facets these days ...very few novel ideas are really out there. It's more of race to be published first, while half their reader's are all going, "Yeah, we know/knew this 10 years ago... " But the point is, it's saturating content everywhere. Most respectable enthusiasts, to normal climate and Met folk alike are aware. Although personally, I don't know, nor have read any formal "transition season"-attribution studies. Like the fact that snow in October was perhaps a 1::15 year ( Will ? ) return rate prior to 2000.... since then? IF just taking these 21 years, it's like 1:2 That's either a shift in climate...or one heluva repeating fractal in the vagarious noise of climate. K, so - having said all that, re the 2nd bold sentence. The short answer, no - there is no requirement in that sense? +2 is based on a climatology that spans previous decades, prior to the present and/or future climate, which are by all evidentiary empirical accounts and mathematics after those facts, sloped up ... means that we are inherently at risk using past climate to assume anything like a 'balancing' - for one, we don't know where the base-line is in a moving foundation. We have been getting the autumn snow oddities. We have also been getting weird, deep May CAA events too. These prolapse and lapsing cold season phenomenon - I suspect - can be attributed to HC expanding. This expansion then "triggers" velocity soaking in the mid latitudes earlier than normal - and with faster base-line wind velocities in the middle Troposphere, that is going to ( by geo-physics ) materialize coherent R-wave distribution ... This precedes patterns that are capable of delivering cold early, and late, relative to a slow hemisphere. This than has been doing weird aspects to the mid winter months two - DJF. But that's another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: We definitely don’t do true “autumn” feel like we used to when I was a kid 20 or so years ago. Mostly warm with some cooler days sprinkled in. I mean 18 19 were cool but yea a half degree warmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Interesting you say this. Your month so far Ha, days of 60s and 70s, nights of 50s. That’s well played. Tip o’ cap . Looks like Mansfield touches the Tolland line too. ORH looks like 70s and 50s so far too... -0.7 on the month. Charts may not be as wrong as some make it seem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Dry line must have moved through. Dews just crashed like 7-8F over last hour. Was 63F at 11am and dropped to 54F at 12:15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, weathafella said: Probably downtown. It’s not like they had airports in 1915. ORH site was on the north side of town around 600 feet back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Ha, days of 60s and 70s, nights of 50s. That’s well played. Tip o’ cap . Looks like Mansfield touches the Tolland line too. ORH looks like 70s and 50s so far too... -0.7 on the month. Charts may not be as wrong as some make it seem. The models did fairly well overall with the theme of the first 10-12 days of the month....I recall saying they showed "Seasonably cool" (basically near to slightly below avg). Definitely going to turn up the torch knob though for the 2nd half of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: I mean 18 19 were cool but yea a half degree warmer It actually looks identical from when he WS born roughly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The models did fairly well overall with the theme of the first 10-12 days of the month....I recall saying they showed "Seasonably cool" (basically near to slightly below avg). Definitely going to turn up the torch knob though for the 2nd half of the month. The 2nd half torch was signaled well by eps 10 days ago or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Just now, weathafella said: The 2nd half torch was signaled well by eps 10 days ago or more. Define torch in Mid September before that guy expects 90 in his hood. Look at the heights,seems like upper 70s low 80s are the highs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: It actually looks identical from when he WS born roughly Anecdotal evidence is the worst. A kid that was born in 2005 will say he remembers having snow up to his waist. Of course he did in 09 11 13 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Define torch in Mid September before that guy expects 90 in his hood. Look at the heights,seems like upper 70s low 80s are the highs. Yeah +10 to +15 on the highs would be torch. So mostly in the 70s and 80s since avg highs are in the 70-75 range mid-Sept and mid/upper 60s by late Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Missed you at the beach. No balls? Swimmed in the lake yesterday and will be there shortly. How many times have you swimmed since Sept 1st big guy I went last weekend up at Stinson Lake in NH actually. I mean you're kinda proving my point of closing pools too early, because you're like swimming every day bro. Don't you look out at your warm pool on nice days like today and get a little sad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Define torch in Mid September before that guy expects 90 in his hood. Look at the heights,seems like upper 70s low 80s are the highs. 5+ AN. For winter probably 10+. So by now upper 70s and higher. People freaking out by lingering summer. This is a common occurrence! If it’s in the 80s thanksgiving I’ll worry more but honestly this weather means nothing regarding winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Whineminster said: I went last weekend up at Stinson Lake in NH actually. I mean you're kinda proving my point of closing pools too early, because you're like swimming every day bro. Don't you look out at your warm pool on nice days like today and get a little sad? Maybe he’s swimming in the rainwater in the pool cover? That must be very warm 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernovice Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said: To be fair ... I am not sure that it is mine, per se. But I get what you meant... I am not sure which came first, my bloviating, or whether reviewed/officiated science on the matter was just happening all along unwittingly to myself - probably the latter. With millions of minds looking, pensively peering over environmental facets these days ...very few novel ideas are really out there. It's more of race to be published first, while half their reader's are all going, "Yeah, we know/knew this 10 years ago... " But the point is, it's saturating content everywhere. Most respectable enthusiasts, to normal climate and Met folk alike are aware. - Thanks. I guess I'm really thinking about wrong...interesting...will be watching for more airline ground speed records incoming regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Here's the chart boomer posted last week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said: Here's the chart boomer posted last week Exactly . Too cold 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Exactly . Too cold The first week looks pretty good. Shocking a model Day 7-14 prog was off. BDL and ORH both below normal to date, now a warm period coming. Looks like the EURO from a week ago had warmth around the 15th but was a bit too muted. I still don’t get what you guys are trying to prove with the attack on model data. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Whineminster said: I went last weekend up at Stinson Lake in NH actually. I mean you're kinda proving my point of closing pools too early, because you're like swimming every day bro. Don't you look out at your warm pool on nice days like today and get a little sad? Yea those 50 degree nights are perfect for shallow pools versus huge lakes and oceans. Learn somethings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Torch Tiger said: Here's the chart boomer posted last week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Exactly . Too cold Actually the average was too warm for KTOLL, math is hard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: The first week looks pretty good. Shocking a model Day 7-14 prog was off. BDL and ORH both below normal to date, now a warm period coming. Looks like the EURO from a week ago had warmth around the 15th but was a bit too muted. I still don’t get what you guys are trying to prove with the attack on model data. He still hasn't hit 80 lol. Bet he enjoyed the COC today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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