Amped Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 List of storms that came close to or over New Orleans since 2005 Cindy 2005 CAT1 Katrina 2005 CAT3 Gustav 2008 CAT2 Isaac 2012 CAT1 Nate 2017 CAT1 Zeta 2020 CAT3 The forecast track looks almost identical to Gustav 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, WhiteoutWX said: Biggest limiting factor for a high end cane right now is mainly the time over the gulf. Most models are only showing about a 36 hour window now between exiting Cuba and landfall in Louisiana. The more eastern solution has also led to a faster solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 All the reduced time frame does is limit chances to complete an ERC. This is why the majority of the most intense US landfalls are not long tracking CV storms....wild card being the degree of interaction with higher terrain over Cuba. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: All the reduced time frame does is limit chances to complete an ERC. This is why the majority of the most intense US landfalls are not long tracking CV storms....wild card being the degree of interaction with higher terrain over Cuba. The area of Cuba that Ida will be tracking over is relatively flat forest land. Not horribly unlike the Yucatán. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 SUMMARY OF 200 AM EDT...0600 UTC...INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------- LOCATION...19.4N 80.9W ABOUT 30 MI...50 KM ENE OF GRAND CAYMAN ABOUT 310 MI...500 KM ESE OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...NW OR 320 DEGREES AT 12 MPH...19 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 MWCR 270900Z 28008KT 250V130 9000 -SHRA BKN014 SCT028 26/25 Q1003MWCR 270800Z 32008KT 290V350 9999 -SHRA BKN010 26/25 Q1003MWCR 270700Z 35010KT 330V040 9999 BKN018 26/25 Q1004MWCR 270600Z 06010KT 9999 FEW016 BKN030 27/24 Q1005MWCR 270500Z 09017KT 9999 FEW016 BKN030 27/24 Q1007 Looks like the center is passing north of Grand Cayman. Radar confirms this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Now explicitly forecast to become a major before landfall: FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 27/0900Z 20.0N 81.4W 40 KT 45 MPH 12H 27/1800Z 21.5N 82.9W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER ISLE OF YOUTH 24H 28/0600Z 23.4N 84.9W 60 KT 70 MPH 36H 28/1800Z 25.3N 86.9W 70 KT 80 MPH 48H 29/0600Z 27.1N 88.8W 85 KT 100 MPH 60H 29/1800Z 28.7N 90.2W 100 KT 115 MPH 72H 30/0600Z 30.1N 91.1W 85 KT 100 MPH...INLAND 96H 31/0600Z 33.0N 90.5W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND 120H 01/0600Z 35.0N 88.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 am advisory now forecasting borderline cat 3 on landfall but notes the following wrt intensity: It should be noted that this intensity is lower than that forecast by the HMON model, the HCCA corrected consensus model, and the Florida State Superensemble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6Z GFS: Borderline CAT4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: All the reduced time frame does is limit chances to complete an ERC. This is why the majority of the most intense US landfalls are not long tracking CV storms....wild card being the degree of interaction with higher terrain over Cuba. The reduced time frame will also limit storm surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Rapid intensification is still very difficult to forecast. So something much higher then a cat 3 is still very much on the table. The NHC is playing the middle road between a Cat 1/2 if rapid intensification doesn’t occur and 4/5 if it goes full tilt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 pressure down to 997 on latest recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bostonseminole said: pressure down to 997 on latest recon Well that's significant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Already 60 mph and 996. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Looks like a new ball of convection is firing under the low level center now that we have visible back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 hours ago, hlcater said: The area of Cuba that Ida will be tracking over is relatively flat forest land. Not horribly unlike the Yucatán. I think that is the key to the intensity forecast...JMHO, but I feel the only way that time is much of an impediment is if the core is severely disrupted by higher terrain over Cuba, which as of now is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, cptcatz said: The reduced time frame will also limit storm surge. True....somewhat. That scenario is not ideal for realizing max surge potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Rapid intensification is still very difficult to forecast. So something much higher then a cat 3 is still very much on the table. The NHC is playing the middle road between a Cat 1/2 if rapid intensification doesn’t occur and 4/5 if it goes full tilt. Exactly right. I called for it yesterday, but someone like me can do that because no once cares what I do and the lives of thousands don't depend on it. I totally get why the NHC plays it the way that they do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Recon just found some 64kt + wind according to tropical tidbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Pretty impressive organization since last night. Deep convection over the LLC. Appears to be stacked. Core appears to be developing. Wonder how much intensification Ida can undergo prior to Isle of Youth and Western Cuba here? Good odds of being a hurricane by first landfall. Also looks like the GFS operational runs the past few days were not overdoing intensification trends prior to Cuba. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 This thing may be going through RI before Cuba… I’m siding with the higher intensity guidance on this storm given the structure at present. This is ahead of modeling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Pretty impressive organization since last night. Deep convection over the LLC. Appears to be stacked. Wow! First time this year for a tropical storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: This thing may be going through RI before Cuba… I’m siding with the higher intensity guidance on this storm given the structure at present. This is ahead of modeling usually the warmest and deepest water in our area of the world is south of cuba.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowenOutThere Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Lightning now going off in the deep convection under the core which is well known sign of rapid intensification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, nycwinter said: usually the warmest and deepest water in our area of the world is south of cuba.. Yes but that doesn’t always mean a vertically aligned (stacked) circulation and established core. It’s going over a “easy” spot of Cuba for storms to maintain intensity without much disruption and will not need to reorganize or form a core once in the Gulf in a highly divergent and light shear environment. Also, it’s track literally follows the loop current. This is going to be a monster hurricane, I am incredibly confident. As someone stated earlier, it’s rare on this forum or in any tropical weather discussion to have to look for reasons the storm will not strengthen rapidly. Models have been locked in unanimously for days and what we’re seeing this morning was the one thing I believed could slow it down: lack of an inner core before it could fully take advantage of its environment. Also- the outflow from the pacific system which was a possible detriment to intensification has been nullified by the more northern and eastern track. If this was going into Texas it would likely hand encountered some shear from that, or at least some outflow restriction, but it’s a non factor on the current track. I usually refrain from hyperbole on this site, but this has the hallmarks of another historic Gulf hurricane in the making. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 https://twitter.com/COweatherman/status/1431246028842291200?s=20 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Weather Center Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 https://www.weathercentertx.com/us-hurricane-center/hurricane-ida-news/ TROPICAL STORM IDA DATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I wonder how much impact Cuba will have on Ida? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: https://twitter.com/COweatherman/status/1431246028842291200?s=20 Funny, Michael was one of the big five (along with Katrina, Andrew, Camille and Labor day '35) that I referenced in my forecast for cat 4-5 landfall yesteday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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