cptcatz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said: They do I’ve been reading up on them, but no guarantee they work properly. If whoever manages the pumps didn't say a couple days ago "of there's a hurricane coming, maybe we should test the generators to make sure properly", then they should be fired. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jaguars said: I think someone on here was commenting on not really seeing evidence of a cat 4 conditions….. I sure have now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said: Wow that’s terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Syrmax said: We don't know exact status . All they stated was that they lost their power supply off the transmission system. I'm guessing that they have substations fed from the High Voltage 115 kv or higher Transmission system. Distribution system at lower voltages probably lost also if the HV and EHV are tripped. It did imply they have a backup source working. How many generators and how much of their pump system that can be supplied...and for how long...no idea. Let’s hope the hospital has ample fuel and working generators. Many folks there rely on oxygen generators working to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Jon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 regarding those generators, this IS a government project we're talking about, I'm sure they don't work because somebody put 'em in the basement and it's now flooded! 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, cptcatz said: If whoever manages the pumps didn't say a couple days ago "of there's a hurricane coming, maybe we should test the generators to make sure properly", then they should be fired. They assuredly have a test program. The interesting thing is what their fuel supply status is. This is a real concern for nuclear plants...and facilities like this. In these cases, you will be relying 100% on on-site storage as transport of fuel will likely be interuppted for an extended period. Unless they have gas turbine gens connected to the natural gas pipeline system (which is subject to its own failure modes in events like this). We are about to find out how prepared they really were. Would hate to see the levees hold but have a different failure mode cause flooding problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 They better work, rainfall rates will be crazy for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Unfortunately for New Orleans Ida is crawling right now. They are seeing a very extended period of hurricane force winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderman Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 From a HAM radio friend of mine just a few moments ago: Quote N5OEP just checked in, he is with NO Homeland Security Emergency Preparedness with no power in downtown in NO, pumps near capacity but working well. Very heavy winds and torrential rain, guessing wind at 100 mph, had 148 mph earlier before the gage was destroyed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grep1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hotair said: Let’s hope the hospital has ample fuel and working generators. Many folks there rely on oxygen generators working to live. Mandated 96hr worth of run time fuel for any hospital. I suspect coastal operations would increase. Although I have seen bae minimums done in places where they shouldn’t have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, thunderman said: From a HAM radio friend of mine just a few moments ago: Great news about pumps, thanks for sharing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 One thing on the rainfall is that even when Ida moves north overnight, somebody is going to be stuck with the feeder bands training over them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacindc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, Cary said: New Orleans doesn't consist solely of downtown. I’m sorry. All of NO has seen the worst of the storm as the eye wall is moving away to its NW. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Yes, exactly this. It was basically fine until the levee failures. If the levee didn’t fail in Katrina…Katrina wouldn’t be quite the legend that it is today. The levee failure was certainly part of it, but Katrina’s insane storm surge in Mississippi would have still made it a legend regardless. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstuess Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The tweet said they lost 12 MW of grid power but have 15 MW of on-site generation (turbine 6), should be nat gas turbine. Based on that wording they should have full capacity, but certainly on more of a knife edge. Could also be a lot more going on as that is Turbine 6?I am sure they have very regular maintance and test runs, but if gas turbines they are dependant on gas distribution. Gas distribution is generally hardier but can fail with loss of power if compressor stations don't have backup, as we saw in Texas this winter. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, hazwoper said: I’m sorry. All of NO has seen the worst of the storm as the eye wall is moving away to its NW. Not necessarily. Going to get worse as rain piles up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Hoping all is well here. In the eyewall just outside Laplace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldub23 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, jacindc said: Hard to boil water without power. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, tim123 said: Not necessarily. Going to get worse as rain piles up. The heaviest rain is over as well. Will they have several hours of additional heavy rainfall? Sure. But the NE quadrant of the eyewall has pushed north of the city. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbird12 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, ldub23 said: Hard to boil water without power. The combination of extended power outages and potentially compromised water supplies could turn into a really big deal, even if New Orleans avoids catastrophic wind damage and flooding. Hopefully the various relief agencies involved are better prepared to deal with the aftermath if Ida than they were for Katrina. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 One of the main NOLA hospitals is losing its roof. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Major flooding throughout all of Louisiana into MS tonight with continued surge likely. The ugliness is just getting started. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, ldub23 said: Hard to boil water without power. Not an ideal way to boil water but anyone prepping for a hurricane strike should have a propane-fueled grill and ample propane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacindc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 https://www.nola.com/news/article_b62d2c58-0928-11ec-a42e-9354b46469fc.htmlThe Kerner Swing Bridge in Lafitte was hit by a barge, Jefferson Parish officials said just before 7:30 p.m. Sunday."Any residents that may still be in Lafitte are advised to not attempt to drive on this bridge," the parish said in a news release. "We do not believe it is structurally safe." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 New Orleans Getting hit with ????? Cause all stations are down. Power and internet out too. Guess the Helicopters will see whats left of it tomorrow morning 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrindOutWins Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Doesn't this look like perhaps a top 5 US hit, period and not just a top 5 gulf coast hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, drstuess said: The tweet said they lost 12 MW of grid power but have 15 MW of on-site generation (turbine 6), should be nat gas turbine. Based on that wording they should have full capacity, but certainly on more of a knife edge. Could also be a lot more going on as that is Turbine 6? I am sure they have very regular maintance and test runs, but if gas turbines they are dependant on gas distribution. Gas distribution is generally hardier but can fail with loss of power if compressor stations don't have backup, as we saw in Texas this winter. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Exactly. Good post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Amped said: New Orleans Getting hit with ????? Cause all stations are down. Power and internet out too. Guess the Helicopters will see whats left of it tomorrow morning It’s a “catastrophic” transmission issue so I’d say perhaps major damage to main substation and/or massive downing of high tension transmission lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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