Castaway Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, cstrunk said: Well, losing a engine would certainly be a good reason to not fly into a Cat 4 'cane. But what are we doing? Flying WW2 planes into hurricanes? It's 2021 for crying out loud. This program needs more funding. It’ll be a mixture of highly engineered drones soon I’m thinking. Later human presence will be then evaluated. there will be humans in the thing I’m guessing either way always obviously regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, cstrunk said: Well, losing a engine would certainly be a good reason to not fly into a Cat 4 'cane. But what are we doing? Flying WW2 planes into hurricanes? It's 2021 for crying out loud. This program needs more funding. Yes, what is going on! These planes have numerous issues season after season! I don't understand...are they old? Is it because they take such a beating? Funding severely lacking? But what is the excuse then for the AF planes, one would imagine there's no lack of funding there? These planes are so imperative to keeping people safe, I just do not understand why they continue to be plagued with issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3am Bulletin Update on Hurricane Ida, now a Cat 4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbgj5wRtxWs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Big lightning burst in the eastern eyewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Buffing up cat 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SENC Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 NOAA43 departed Lakeland, now just leaving Fl. coastline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Two USAF flights... both divert back to base. Perhaps the second one can jump in the 'first' aircraft and head back out. Either way, what the flipping flamingos is going on with the 53rd tonight. Thankfully, NOAA's P3 is airborne out of Tampa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, tim123 said: Navy even closer to new orleans has center about 20 mile west of city That would mean NOLA definitely gets the NE eyewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, WishingForWarmWeather said: I was about to say, looks bordering cat 5 to me based on SAT presentation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Ida currently has an eyewall suggestive of meso vortices developing. Also this is still at ~25k ft beam height so these are intense cells rotating around the eye at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonPeon Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Eyewall looking less perfect on radar at the moment. Erc? Or just fluctuation? Speaking mostly about how the SW outer band is pulled in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Currently based on Radar, with a possible more dominant northern vortex. This looks like currently it’s goin straight northly Dynamically it can pull some of the rest northerly in natural fluidity Next hour will be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I was about to say, looks bordering cat 5 to me based on SAT presentation.. It is the worst possible time to lose yet another recon flight, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFreeze6298 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, WishingForWarmWeather said: What name the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Just now, MrFreeze6298 said: What name the site Here you go, this is a direct link to the Ida page: http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/odt09L.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFreeze6298 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Just now, WishingForWarmWeather said: Here you go, this is a direct link to the Ida page: http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/adt/odt09L.html Thanks you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishingForWarmWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 How long does the flight usually take? In response to Levi, NOAA says they left at 238aCST to head to Ida. Maybe it won't be a multi-hour gap as suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Eyewall looking less perfect on radar at the moment. Erc? Or just fluctuation? Speaking mostly about how the SW outer band is pulled in.Visually, Ida is essentially text book for an intensifying eyewall at present. You get deformation from isolated intense cells bursting within the eyewall and as such can lead to meso vortices. Also radar is still long range with the beam height above ~25 k ft at this time; so it is possible the reflectivity dbz of the core band will become more of a bright ring as Ida gets closer and the beam reflects from lower in the eyewall. We're essentially limited to the higher/most intense elongated cells at this height. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Windspeed said: 16 minutes ago, NeonPeon said: Eyewall looking less perfect on radar at the moment. Erc? Or just fluctuation? Speaking mostly about how the SW outer band is pulled in. Visually, Ida is essentially text book for an intensifying eyewall at present. You get deformation from isolated intense cells bursting within the eyewall, this leads to mesos. Also radar is still long range with the beam height above ~25 k ft at this time, so it is possible the reflectivity dbz of the core band will become more of a bright ring as Ida gets closer and the beam reflects from lower is the eyewall. We're essentially limited to the higher/most intense elongated cells at this height. Do more dominant meso(s) have an effect more or less of steer. Wobble more or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 another plane just took off so two planes now in the air now.. but might be a bit before that one reaches IDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Another 'emergency scramble' from San Antonio and the 53rd after two return to base mechanicals. That is definitely a first - and while off-site too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I mean, not to be repetitive here with the radar shots, but even at a distance, this is a very impressive eyewall. Ida is putting on a show. Not to sound happy about it either. Just from a meteorological perspective. Obviously this is a dire situation developing for landfall. We're, what, 9 hrs away? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 That eye looks about 20 miles wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Do more dominant meso(s) have an effect more or less of steer. Wobble more or less?Sure, it's one of many internal structure processes that can cause an eye to wobble. Obviously concentric eyewalls may produce the most evident trichoidal variety. Hurricanes wobble wobble. But it's back and forth micro perturbations within the macro steering flow/motion. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 IR presentation has degraded slightly, hopefully means intensification has halted for now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Looks like it wobbled a bit west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: IR presentation has degraded slightly, hopefully means intensification has halted for now it did for a short time looking better again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 am on Ida HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 28.0N 89.1W AT 29/0900Z POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR 315 DEGREES AT 13 KT ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 946 MB EYE DIAMETER 15 NM MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 120 KT WITH GUSTS TO 145 KT. 64 KT....... 35NE 30SE 20SW 30NW. 50 KT....... 70NE 60SE 40SW 60NW. 34 KT.......120NE 100SE 80SW 110NW. 12 FT SEAS..180NE 150SE 150SW 120NW. WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT. REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 28.0N 89.1W AT 29/0900Z AT 29/0600Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 27.6N 88.7W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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