LibertyBell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 7:15 PM, bluewave said: It looks like NYC may finally drop below 55° next week. HPN could also see the first 40s of the fall. This would be very late for these temperature benchmarks at both stations. Latest first day below 55° in NYC First/Last Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYEach section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Last Value First Value Difference 2015 06-04 (2015) 54 10-02 (2015) 48 119 1910 06-08 (1910) 53 10-02 (1910) 54 115 1921 06-05 (1921) 54 10-01 (1921) 52 117 1908 05-16 (1908) 53 09-30 (1908) 52 136 2005 06-02 (2005) 54 09-29 (2005) 54 118 2003 06-17 (2003) 53 09-29 (2003) 53 103 2002 06-08 (2002) 53 09-29 (2002) 54 112 1968 06-21 (1968) 53 09-29 (1968) 53 99 1930 06-01 (1930) 50 09-29 (1930) 53 119 1970 05-30 (1970) 50 09-27 (1970) 54 119 2016 06-09 (2016) 54 09-25 (2016) 54 107 Latest first 40s at HPN First/Last Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NYEach section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Last Value First Value Difference 2018 06-12 (2018) 49 10-12 (2018) 47 121 2017 06-09 (2017) 47 09-29 (2017) 47 111 2002 06-08 (2002) 48 09-29 (2002) 48 112 1970 05-30 (1970) 44 09-29 (1970) 42 121 1968 05-28 (1968) 46 09-29 (1968) 49 123 2005 05-25 (2005) 46 09-28 (2005) 46 125 2015 06-02 (2015) 48 09-27 (2015) 47 116 1980 06-14 (1980) 47 09-27 (1980) 44 104 2016 05-21 (2016) 48 09-25 (2016) 44 126 this is wonderful fall weather, we've been around 55 for a few days here already and looks like we might get into the upper 40s in a few days later this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 8:33 PM, CIK62 said: What is going on here on the EURO? The area that is hanging back from SAM 'hangs on' for at least 72 hours of 40mph gusts{from N} near here, starting at 168hrs.(not shown) The GFS and CMC have this is in a minor way only. That is the SON OF SAM ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 8:35 PM, donsutherland1 said: Tomorrow and Monday will be fair and pleasantly warm days. Afterward, a cold front could bring some showers or thundershowers to the region on Tuesday. The MJO had recently been locked in Phase 3 at a high amplitude, frequently in excess of 1.500. Only 2006 and 2009 saw the MJO in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above for 2 or more days during September 10-20. Both years saw September end with a cold shot that continued into the first days of October. Both days saw Central Park's temperature fall to 49° on September 30. The guidance has now come into better agreement concerning a cool shot to end the month. Afterward, in the MJO cases, a fairly sharp rebound in temperatures followed. October wound up wetter than normal with 7.07" rainfall in 2006 and 5.58" of rainfall in 2009. Normal rainfall (1991-2020) is 4.38". 2021 remains on course to become the 6th out of the last 7 years during which September has had a mean temperature of 70° or above in New York City. Prior to 2000, New York City saw such warmth on average once every five years. In short, September has become more an extension of summer than a gateway to autumn in the New York City area. There is increasing consensus on the long-range guidance that October will be an unseasonably warm month. The first half could feature much above normal readings in the Northern Plains into Central Canada. Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27". The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.4°C for the week centered around September 15. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.03°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.45°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail through September. Afterward, La Niña conditions could begin to develop. The SOI was -15.92 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +0.142 today. On September 23 the MJO was in Phase 4 at an amplitude of 0.946 (RMM). The September 22-adjusted amplitude was 1.305 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 89% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal September (1991-2020 normal). September will likely finish with a mean temperature near 70.4° (1.2° above normal). Don looks like the warmth will continue to be centered in the middle of the country and Canada, not here? Nice fall weather here. And I think we can cautiously say that the chances for anything tropical are much less now. Most storms will either recurve or hit the Gulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Don looks like the warmth will continue to be centered in the middle of the country and Canada, not here? Nice fall weather here. And I think we can cautiously say that the chances for anything tropical are much less now. Most storms will either recurve or hit the Gulf. Yes. That’s where the warmest anomalies will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Morning thoughts… Today will be mostly sunny and unseasonably warm. High temperatures will likely reach the upper 70s and lower 80s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 78° Newark: 83° Philadelphia: 81° Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 71.9°; 15-Year: 73.1° Newark: 30-Year: 73.4°; 15-Year: 74.9° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 74.7°; 15-Year: 75.9° Tomorrow will be another warm day, but a strong cold front will move across the region tomorrow night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 The last 4 days of September are averaging 67degs.(61/73), or +2. Month to date is 71.2[+1.2]. September should end at 70.6[+1.4]. Reached 74* here yesterday. Today: 76-80, w. wind, p. sunny. 62*(63%RH) here at 6am, scattered clouds. 64* at 9am. 69* at Noon. 71* at 1pm. 77* at 3pm. 78* at 4pm. 79* at 4:30pm. Reached 80* at 5pm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 56F this morning. Chilly, but warm wind signals change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Today and possibly tomorrow look like it will be our warmest days for a while as the usual warmer spots reach 80°+. Several locations have had their warmest low max for the month so far. This was the first time that HPN hasn’t had a high below 70° through 9-26. Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 70 0 2 2016-09-26 69 0 - 1968-09-26 69 0 3 2015-09-26 68 0 - 2005-09-26 68 0 - 1961-09-26 68 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 76 0 2 1968-09-26 74 0 3 2005-09-26 72 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 74 0 2 1968-09-26 73 0 3 2015-09-26 72 0 Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 72 0 2 2015-09-26 71 0 - 2005-09-26 71 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 74 0 2 1968-09-26 72 0 3 2016-09-26 71 0 - 2005-09-26 71 0 Time Series Summary for Boston Area, MA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 70 0 2 1957-09-26 68 0 - 1930-09-26 68 0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 good lapse rates tomorrow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 What a day. 78 and sunny. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Newark sets the new record of 120 consecutive days reaching 70° or higher. Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 70 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Run Length Dates Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2021-09-26 1 120 2021-05-31 through 2021-09-27 2 119 2008-05-23 through 2008-09-18 3 117 1995-05-29 through 1995-09-22 - 117 1994-05-28 through 1994-09-21 4 113 2020-05-25 through 2020-09-14 5 112 2016-06-09 through 2016-09-28 6 110 1966-06-02 through 1966-09-19 7 107 1957-06-09 through 1957-09-23 8 106 2014-05-30 through 2014-09-12 - 106 2010-05-29 through 2010-09-11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Tomorrow will be another warm day, but a cold front will push across the region overnight bringing some showers and perhaps thundershowers to parts of the region. It is almost a coin toss as to whether Central Park will pick up the 0.24" of rain that it needs to reach 10" for September. The 12z EPS had 30/51 (59%) of members with sufficient rainfall. Afterward, the coolest air so far this fall will close out the month. The MJO had recently been locked in Phase 3 at a high amplitude, frequently in excess of 1.500. Only 2006 and 2009 saw the MJO in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 1.500 or above for 2 or more days during September 10-20. Both years saw September end with a cold shot that continued into the first days of October. Both days saw Central Park's temperature fall to 49° on September 30. The guidance has now come into better agreement concerning a cool shot to end the month. Afterward, in the MJO cases, a fairly sharp rebound in temperatures followed. October wound up wetter than normal with 7.07" rainfall in 2006 and 5.58" of rainfall in 2009. Normal rainfall (1991-2020) is 4.38". 2021 remains on course to become the 6th out of the last 7 years during which September has had a mean temperature of 70° or above in New York City. Prior to 2000, New York City saw such warmth on average once every five years. In short, September has become more an extension of summer than a gateway to autumn in the New York City area. There is increasing consensus on the long-range guidance that October will be an unseasonably warm month. The first half could feature much above normal readings in the Northern Plains into Central Canada. Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27". The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.3°C for the week centered around September 22. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.05°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.43°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail through September. Afterward, La Niña conditions could begin to develop during October. The SOI was +24.25 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -1.185 today. On September 25 the MJO was in Phase 5 at an amplitude of 0.815 (RMM). The September 24-adjusted amplitude was 0.715 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 98% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal September (1991-2020 normal). September will likely finish with a mean temperature near 70.4° (1.2° above normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Gusting over 30mph here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 9/27 EWR: 83 LGA: 82 PHL: 82 BLM: 80 JF: 80 New Brnswck: 80 ACY: 80 TEB: 79 TTN: 79 NYC: 78 ISP: 76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, SACRUS said: 9/27 EWR: 83 LGA: 82 PHL: 82 BLM: 80 JF: 80 New Brnswck: 80 ACY: 80 TEB: 79 TTN: 79 NYC: 78 ISP: 76 Hit 78 here today. Beautiful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Newark sets the new record of 120 consecutive days reaching 70° or higher. Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 70 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Run Length Dates Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2021-09-26 1 120 2021-05-31 through 2021-09-27 2 119 2008-05-23 through 2008-09-18 3 117 1995-05-29 through 1995-09-22 - 117 1994-05-28 through 1994-09-21 4 113 2020-05-25 through 2020-09-14 5 112 2016-06-09 through 2016-09-28 6 110 1966-06-02 through 1966-09-19 7 107 1957-06-09 through 1957-09-23 8 106 2014-05-30 through 2014-09-12 - 106 2010-05-29 through 2010-09-11 Close call on of all days July 3 with ahigh of 70. Streak looks to break Thursday. I'll go 68 for a high 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 16 hours ago, bluewave said: Today and possibly tomorrow look like it will be our warmest days for a while as the usual warmer spots reach 80°+. Several locations have had their warmest low max for the month so far. This was the first time that HPN hasn’t had a high below 70° through 9-26. Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 70 0 2 2016-09-26 69 0 - 1968-09-26 69 0 3 2015-09-26 68 0 - 2005-09-26 68 0 - 1961-09-26 68 0 Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 76 0 2 1968-09-26 74 0 3 2005-09-26 72 0 Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 74 0 2 1968-09-26 73 0 3 2015-09-26 72 0 Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 72 0 2 2015-09-26 71 0 - 2005-09-26 71 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 74 0 2 1968-09-26 72 0 3 2016-09-26 71 0 - 2005-09-26 71 0 Time Series Summary for Boston Area, MA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Lowest Max Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 26 Missing Count 1 2021-09-26 70 0 2 1957-09-26 68 0 - 1930-09-26 68 0 Has JFK ever had a September where they never had a high below 70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Rjay said: Gusting over 30mph here stupid ragweed !#$^^& Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Morning thoughts… Today will be partly sunny and warm. A strong cold front could trigger some showers and thunderstorms from late afternoon into the night. High temperatures will likely reach the upper 70s and lower 80s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 75° Newark: 79° Philadelphia: 80° Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 71.5°; 15-Year: 72.8° Newark: 30-Year: 73.0°; 15-Year: 74.5° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 74.3°; 15-Year: 75.5° The remainder of the month will be fair but unseasonably cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 6 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Has JFK ever had a September where they never had a high below 70? Yes. In 2015, the lowest daily high temperature was 72. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 The last 3 days of September are averaging 65degs.(58/71), or Normal. Month to date is 71.2[1.4]. September should end at 70.6[+1.2]. Reached 80 here yesterday. First two weeks of October look boring w/o spectacular rains, or T's.......50/70 is the range, or +2. Today: 73-76, w. to n. wind, Rain possible 1pm onward. 66*(80%RH) here at 6am, scattered overcast. 67* at 7am. 69* at 9am. 72* at 11am. 68* at Noon, with rain and a little thunder during the last hour. Went back up and reached 75* at 4:30pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Down to 57 last night rain and showers into EPA as front is moving through. Clear and dry out later tonight setting up a step down cooler pattern starting Wed (9/29) and through the coming weekend Sun (10/3). We have a quick warmup Monday (10/4) and Tuesday (10/5) very outside chance of 80s. Beyond that more onshore NE flow the middle of next week. Beyond there ECM has ridging into the east and warmer than normal as round out the end of the first full week of Oct into mid month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted September 28, 2021 Author Share Posted September 28, 2021 Good Tuesday morning, Wantage NJ rolls of thunder since 650A, and now .06 in a few minutes ..big drops. Not threading but there could be isolated svr today via hail and marginal wind gusts, mainly afternoon and especially I78 south. I saw how last Saturdays rain just grazed e LI. Much less than I what I anticipated would occur with excellent weather prevailing NYC. This Wed or Thu might see a sprinkle into NYC? as the cold pool slides south; the EPS ensembles of last week out-performing the GEFS idea of possibly separating streams. My expectation is lots of afternoon cloudiness both days (5000-8000') Late weekend onward: threat of showery periods ensues as RRQ of the departing Maine trough interacts with central USA eastward moving shortwaves, enhancing WAA possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Clouds ahead of schedule may throw wrench in the 70 degree high stretch? http://synoptic.envsci.rutgers.edu/site/imgs/vis_nj_anim.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Another warm September morning: 65F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 70/63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Clouds ahead of schedule may throw wrench in the 70 degree high stretch? http://synoptic.envsci.rutgers.edu/site/imgs/vis_nj_anim.gif Newark already at 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 This is now the wettest September on record at Newark. Wet September patterns in the past have been much cooler. So this will be the first in the top 5 wettest to average above 70°. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Total Precipitation Avg Temperature 1 2021 10.32 73.2° 2 1944 10.28 68.2° 3 1999 9.38 69.3° 4 1975 9.00 64.3° 5 1933 8.33 68.0° 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 EWR now to 70 so early clouds didnt prevent the max of atleast 70's streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Line looks like itll get knyc to 10”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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