MJO812 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Gfs is alot stronger than the 6z run 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Looks like Ukie is also stronger and further west than 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Looks like Ukie is also stronger and further west than 0z That site is good for quick panels but use pivotal or another site for higher resolution. It’s a heck of a low off the coast verbatim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: That site is good for quick panels but use pivotal or another site for higher resolution. It’s a heck of a low off the coast verbatim. True I usually pay for the models especially during the winter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezeta Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: True I usually pay for the models especially during the winter . Never donated, never subbed, stolen laptop, neighbors wifi. anyways, henri is looking like a recurve. Has any good east coast storm ever started where it did? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tezeta said: Never donated, never subbed, stolen laptop, neighbors wifi. anyways, henri is looking like a recurve. Has any good east coast storm ever started where it did? Not 100 percent sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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olafminesaw Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tezeta said: anyways, henri is looking like a recurve. Has any good east coast storm ever started where it did? Looking on the NOAA database at storms within 100 miles of it's current position, there are hardly any that made east coast landfalls. The only ones that did, north of Florida were 1933 hurricane (the strongest one) Ginger (1971) Hermine (2004) (probably the only one that could be a plausible track) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Henri has an excellent presentation on both visible and radar. Radar shows a nearly fully developed eyewall, though it's hard to be 100% sure without recon confirming it's not a mid level feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Latest 12z EPS spaghetti plots for Henri, continues to trend a bit further west. Some members are even trying to hook back west. At the minimum, lots of rough surf along the Mid-Atlantic and New England coasts. The Euro camp seems to be on the weaker side of most guidance as of now, compared to the other global models and the hurricane models. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WxWatcher007 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 65mph/997mb at 5pm Now expected to become a hurricane by the NHC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Tropical Storm Henri Discussion Number 8 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL082021 500 PM AST Tue Aug 17 2021 Henri appears to be gaining strength. Satellite images show banding features becoming increasingly curved, especially on the east side of the system, and an eye feature has been occasionally seen in radar images from Bermuda. The upper-level outflow is also well established to the north and east of the center. The center itself is estimated to be located near the western edge of the convection, but it is possible that a new center is forming farther east. The initial intensity is raised to 55 kt following the Dvorak classification from TAFB. The initial wind radii has been expanded outward based on an earlier ASCAT pass. The tropical storm appears to have slowed down, and the latest initial motion estimate is 255/2 kt. A subtropical ridge over the western Atlantic is building eastward to the north of Henri, and this feature should steer the storm westward at a slightly faster pace during the next two to three days. After that time, the ridge is expected to weaken and shift farther east as a cut off low or negatively-tilted trough develops over the northeast U.S. This change in the steering pattern should cause Henri to turn northeastward between Bermuda and the east coast of the U.S in the 72-120 h period. There is a fair amount of spread in exactly when and where Henri makes this turn and the GFS and EC ensembles have some members not far offshore of New England and Atlantic Canada. Overall, the guidance has shifted westward again this cycle, and the NHC track forecast has been adjusted accordingly from days 3 to 5. The northwesterly shear currently affecting Henri is subsiding, which should allow the storm to gain a little more strength tonight. However, a round of moderate northerly shear is expected to setup over Henri on Wednesday and Thursday and that will likely temporarily end the opportunity for strengthening. Although this shear would typically cause some weakening, the combination of warm SSTs and increasing mid-level moisture could offset the negative influences of the shear. By Friday and over the weekend, the shear is expected to lessen again and since the other environmental factors are predicted to remain favorable for the storm, strengthening is shown from days 3-5. This forecast is above the previous one, and lies fairly close to the middle of the guidance envelope. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 17/2100Z 30.4N 64.2W 55 KT 65 MPH 12H 18/0600Z 30.3N 65.5W 60 KT 70 MPH 24H 18/1800Z 30.2N 67.0W 60 KT 70 MPH 36H 19/0600Z 30.2N 68.6W 60 KT 70 MPH 48H 19/1800Z 30.3N 70.0W 60 KT 70 MPH 60H 20/0600Z 31.0N 71.1W 60 KT 70 MPH 72H 20/1800Z 32.0N 71.5W 65 KT 75 MPH 96H 21/1800Z 35.5N 69.6W 70 KT 80 MPH 120H 22/1800Z 39.1N 65.2W 70 KT 80 MPH $$ Forecaster Cangialosi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Clear trend on last few GFS runs to the west with a faster storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, MattPetrulli said: Clear trend on last few GFS runs to the west with a faster storm West trend continues on 00z and we got a LF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, MattPetrulli said: West trend continues on 00z and we got a LF This run was way stronger than 18z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, MJO812 said: This run was way stronger than 18z Yikes 970 mb wow this is still 4.5 to 5 days out too that’s an eternity in the tropics when it comes to track and intensity. A troubling item also that’s there is no strong front trough coming to the East coast actually the WAR builds west on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, MattPetrulli said: West trend continues on 00z and we got a LF The stop and recurve occuree roughly 75 miles SW of where it did at 18z. While not huge that's not insignificant and a few more of those and the OBX can come back into play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Ukie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Ukie Looks like that came a smidge west too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kevin Reilly said: Looks like that came a smidge west too Yes and stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kevin Reilly said: Looks like that came a smidge west too Yeah, it’s a bit west from 12z. All the major global guidance so far and the GEFS shifted west tonight. Doesn’t mean it’ll stay that way, but it’s definitely intriguing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Euro is not even in the same ballpark as the other guidance. It could be right, as shear should increase again in the next 24 hours or so per NHC, but it’s curious that it has no interest in intensifying Henri when it’s actually in a favorable environment and quite frankly has done well in the face of prior shear in a less organized state. We’ll see what the ensembles say and what Henri looks like later this morning but the presentation is excellent on IR and radar once again tonight with a nice convective blowup over the center and at least a mid level eye on radar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 For the few EPS members that don’t kill off Henri, the trend is west as well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Next Full moon is Sunday 8/22. The track and timing of this storm are going to have coastal flooding impacts to the mid Atlantic region and northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Tropical Storm Henri Discussion Number 10 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL082021 500 AM AST Wed Aug 18 2021 There's been little change in Henri's satellite appearance this morning. The surface center is still located just to the northwest of a gradually expanding central dense overcast, and there still appears to be an eye-like feature in the Bermuda Doppler radar presentation. However, there are no indications in the GOES-16 BD-curve enhanced infrared images of a developing warm spot. Subjective and objective satellite intensity estimates remain steady, and the initial intensity is held at 55 kt for this advisory. Although the surrounding thermodynamic environment is ripe for further significant development, moderate northwesterly shear continues to impinge on the cyclone causing difficulty in inner-core convective development. Consequently, little change in strength is expected during the next couple days, and in fact the statistical SHIPS model indicates an increase in a more northerly shear component on Thursday. By Saturday afternoon, however, the shear should decrease as the cyclone slides beneath an upper ridge axis off of the southeast U.S. coast. Henri is expected to further intensity through the remaining period as the upper-wind flow becomes much more diffluent. The official intensity forecast is similar to the previous advisory, and lies between the SHIPS model and the HFIP Corrected Consensus Approach aid after the 60-hour period. The initial motion is estimated to be westward, or 260/7 kt. A high amplitude mid- to upper-level anticyclone situated north-northeast of Henri should steer the cyclone toward the west during the next 36 hours, or so. Thereafter, the aforementioned ridge is forecast to weaken and shift eastward in response to a mid-latitude shortwave trough moving over the northeastern U.S. As a result of the change in the synoptic steering pattern, Henri should turn toward the northwest, north, and then northeast through the remaining portion of the forecast. With so much uncertainty or spread in the global and regional models beyond day 3, the best approach at this point is to base the NHC forecast on the better performing multi-model consensus guidance, which has once again shifted a bit to the left of the previous track forecast. I think it's worth noting that the GFSv16 model is now showing a shortwave ridge building over eastern Canada on Sunday, which causes Henri to move more northward toward the New England coast. Therefore, additional changes or shifts of the track beyond the 60-hour period may be required on subsequent advisories. Due to the increased uncertainty in the track forecast, interests along the New England coast should monitor the progress of Henri. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 18/0900Z 30.1N 65.7W 55 KT 65 MPH 12H 18/1800Z 29.9N 66.9W 60 KT 70 MPH 24H 19/0600Z 29.8N 68.7W 60 KT 70 MPH 36H 19/1800Z 29.8N 70.6W 60 KT 70 MPH 48H 20/0600Z 30.4N 71.8W 60 KT 70 MPH 60H 20/1800Z 31.4N 72.3W 65 KT 75 MPH 72H 21/0600Z 33.0N 71.9W 70 KT 80 MPH 96H 22/0600Z 37.6N 69.0W 75 KT 85 MPH 120H 23/0600Z 40.5N 66.1W 65 KT 75 MPH $$ Forecaster Roberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDreamTraveler Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 6z also showing landfall like 0z. it actually has the pressure in the 960s right before that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Trend west continues from what I've seen so far this morning. Definitely become less of a long shot and more of a legitimate threat to the northeast given the 500mb look. A long way to go though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 6z hmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Hmon right into NYC harbor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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