jm1220 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Not surprised, has been a theme this whole summer it seems. Take the under on the extended heat along the coast. Inland locations from C NJ on S&W look to roast for 5 days of 90+ though. Yup. Probably lots of 88/74 type conditions here. Upton might be right on the money minimizing the big heat east of NYC anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: The 12z Euro backed off on the heat for next week. It continues to correct stronger with the high pressure exiting New England. So we get into a humid SE flow. I think this should be expected with CC? What do you think, Chris? We get more humid while the real heat goes farther to the north? Same thing happens with Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, jm1220 said: Yup. Probably lots of 88/74 type conditions here. Upton might be right on the money minimizing the big heat east of NYC anyway. lol it reminds me of inland cutters and coastal huggers, the coast usually misses out on the big anomalous events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: This summer is all about the record Western Ridge and heatwave. A piece of that heat came east for new all-time June heat record of 103° at Newark. But then we got the tropical storm and record rainfall in July. Now the record +PNA is an extension of that historic ridge. It’s generating stronger Canadian high pressure than originally forecast. So it looks like more onshore flow into next week than the earlier model runs were indicating. What would it take to get coast to coast record heat? Like a record ridge that had 100 degree temps on both coasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Given how sticky patterns have been over the past few years I'm hopeful for some nice PNA spikes this winter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: What would it take to get coast to coast record heat? Like a record ridge that had 100 degree temps on both coasts? We had 100° heat from coast to coast at the end of June. But the ridge quickly pulled back to the west in July. The 500mb height anomaly was an all-time June and July record for the Western US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 3 hours ago, bluewave said: This summer is all about the record Western Ridge and heatwave. A piece of that heat came east for new all-time June heat record of 103° at Newark. But then we got the tropical storm and record rainfall in July. Now the record +PNA is an extension of that historic ridge. It’s generating stronger Canadian high pressure than originally forecast. So it looks like more onshore flow into next week than the earlier model runs were indicating. Essentially no temps over 100 in the urban corridor in TX this summer which is quite unusual. It’s also been wet when this time of year typically gets dry other than tropical systems there. Not a fan of the humidity that’s coming back regardless of the actual temps which might not be as hot as we thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Tomorrow will be partly sunny and warmer. Readings will likely rise into the middle 80s with some hot spots reaching the upper 80s. Next week could see the potential of a heat wave in parts of the region, especially from Washington, DC to Philadelphia. Above normal temperatures could persist toward mid-month. Next week could also see the development of a much above normal temperature regime in the Pacific Northwest. There is the possibility that Portland could experience its second extreme heat event of the year. That would make 201 the first year on record with two such events. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.4°C for the week centered around July 28. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.40°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.18°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail into mid-September. The SOI was -18.39 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -0.390 today. The preliminary Pacific-North American (PNA) pattern figure was +3.734. That further increased the August record positive PNA. On August 3 the MJO was in Phase 8 at an amplitude of 1.059 (RMM). The August 2-adjusted amplitude was 1.295 (RMM). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Temp overperformed a bit here. High for the day was 87 Current temp 71/DP 67/RH 87% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 5 hours ago, bluewave said: We had 100° heat from coast to coast at the end of June. But the ridge quickly pulled back to the west in July. The 500mb height anomaly was an all-time June and July record for the Western US. JFK only got to 94 which was disappointing, I was looking forward to the all encompassing wind from the SW Deserts making it here, instead all we get is this dirty Bermuda high. This summer has been a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 4 hours ago, jm1220 said: Essentially no temps over 100 in the urban corridor in TX this summer which is quite unusual. It’s also been wet when this time of year typically gets dry other than tropical systems there. Not a fan of the humidity that’s coming back regardless of the actual temps which might not be as hot as we thought. I wanted that air from Death Valley to come here. If Death Valley can get to 130 we can definitely get to 100. I miss the good old days when we got the air directly from the deserts instead of these dirty humid polluted airmasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 10-Day HW to start today? Will depend upon wind direction/ cloud cover each day. BN air may be 'Absorbed' by mid-month. It is...... Not of the Body. Lol and thank you Star Trek. The next 8 days are averaging 83degs.(74/92), or +7. 70*(82%RH) here at 6am, m. clear. 73* by 9am. 76* by Noon. {JFK=80*, EWR=88*} On beach all PM, and sea breeze kept it below 80*. Now it is 80* at 5pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 20 hours ago, LibertyBell said: it's annoying to have all this humidity and not the heat. The ASOS at JFK is near a marshy area right on Jamaica Bay. So it’s always going to have a lower amount of 90° days than LGA and EWR. Getting over 20 days requires a high number of westerly flow days which has only happened 3 times. Even so,JFK still had numerous top 10s in recent years with all the humid onshore flow. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 Missing Count 1 2010 32 0 2 1983 26 0 3 2002 21 0 4 1971 18 0 - 1949 18 0 5 2005 17 0 - 1991 17 0 6 2012 16 0 - 1959 16 3 - 1955 16 2 7 2016 15 0 - 1995 15 0 - 1961 15 0 8 1999 14 0 - 1988 14 0 - 1966 14 0 - 1952 14 0 9 2011 13 0 - 1993 13 0 - 1984 13 0 - 1977 13 0 - 1970 13 0 - 1969 13 0 - 1963 13 0 10 2020 12 0 - 2015 12 0 - 2006 12 0 - 2003 12 0 - 1978 12 0 - 1968 12 0 - 1953 12 0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Morning thoughts… It was an unnerving night last night in Seattle as drops of water began falling from the sky just before midnight. Seattle’s second longest streak without measurable precipitation ended at 51 days. It will be mostly sunny and very warm today. Temperatures will likely reach the upper 80s and lower 90s in much of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 88° Newark: 92° Philadelphia: 90° Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 84.4°; 15-Year: 84.9° Newark: 30-Year: 85.9°; 15-Year: 86.8° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 86.9°; 15-Year: 87.3° Tomorrow will be another warm day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail That's bull. You could always follow Ryan Maue's Twitter account. He'll say stuff you want to hear. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail everyone wants exciting weather. While the 72 and cloudy here the last 3 days was kind of nice it's also boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, bluewave said: The ASOS at JFK is near a marshy area right on Jamaica Bay. So it’s always going to have a lower amount of 90° days than LGA and EWR. Getting over 20 days requires a high number of westerly flow days which has only happened 3 times. Even so,JFK still had numerous top 10s in recent years with all the humid onshore flow. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 Missing Count 1 2010 32 0 2 1983 26 0 3 2002 21 0 4 1971 18 0 - 1949 18 0 5 2005 17 0 - 1991 17 0 6 2012 16 0 - 1959 16 3 - 1955 16 2 7 2016 15 0 - 1995 15 0 - 1961 15 0 8 1999 14 0 - 1988 14 0 - 1966 14 0 - 1952 14 0 9 2011 13 0 - 1993 13 0 - 1984 13 0 - 1977 13 0 - 1970 13 0 - 1969 13 0 - 1963 13 0 10 2020 12 0 - 2015 12 0 - 2006 12 0 - 2003 12 0 - 1978 12 0 - 1968 12 0 - 1953 12 0 Good morning BW. I apologize in advance for any sarcasm. I’m wondering, if an ASOS is proposed for an area is the final location decided on made by the property owner, the NWS, a cooperative decision or a dart board? As always …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rjay said: That's bull. You could always follow Ryan Maue's Twitter account. He'll say stuff you want to hear. Good morning Rjay. Your avatar is working fine. As always …. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, jfklganyc said: Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail 59.5 last night\in the 50s all week during the early morning. Felt really nice. Now time to bake, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, jfklganyc said: Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail It's still gonna be plenty hot. A few mid-upper 90 days are likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, rclab said: Good morning BW. I apologize in advance for any sarcasm. I’m wondering, if an ASOS is proposed for an area is the final location decided on made by the property owner, the NWS, a cooperative decision or a dart board? As always …. The NWS had their major upgrade back in the 1990s. So it was a joint effort between the NWS and FAA. Each ASOS has to maintain sitting rules which are in the handbook for accurate measurements. I believe the NWS Eastern region HQ near ISP is in charge of maintaining the network So that may be the place to ask about the Central Park ASOS violating the sitting rules with trees blocking the sensors. https://www.weather.gov/erh/ERDivisions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, jfklganyc said: Another beautiful morning without AC 66F This forum seems intent on creating a drenching storm and heat wave…to no avail no need to because this summer has seen its share of heat waves and drenching rains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 81/65 and sunny. Should see 90s in the warmer spots again since July 27th. Some clouds tomorrow will likely limit 90s before clearing on Sunday but a weakness in the ridge may cause some onshore flow Sun and into Monday. As mentioned the warmer spots with less E/ NE flow will get to 90. By Tuesday (8/10) through Sat (8/13) looks to see the peak of this coming weeks heat. 850 tempx >18c by wed and near or >20c Thu (8/12) and Fri (8/13). Beyond there overall humid to warm with potential more heat in to the following week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 the euro seems to have a confluence/backdoor high bias days 3-5. think of all the snowstorms that came north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 hours ago, bluewave said: The ASOS at JFK is near a marshy area right on Jamaica Bay. So it’s always going to have a lower amount of 90° days than LGA and EWR. Getting over 20 days requires a high number of westerly flow days which has only happened 3 times. Even so,JFK still had numerous top 10s in recent years with all the humid onshore flow. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY - Jan through DecClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Number of Days Max Temperature >= 90 Missing Count 1 2010 32 0 2 1983 26 0 3 2002 21 0 4 1971 18 0 - 1949 18 0 5 2005 17 0 - 1991 17 0 6 2012 16 0 - 1959 16 3 - 1955 16 2 7 2016 15 0 - 1995 15 0 - 1961 15 0 8 1999 14 0 - 1988 14 0 - 1966 14 0 - 1952 14 0 9 2011 13 0 - 1993 13 0 - 1984 13 0 - 1977 13 0 - 1970 13 0 - 1969 13 0 - 1963 13 0 10 2020 12 0 - 2015 12 0 - 2006 12 0 - 2003 12 0 - 1978 12 0 - 1968 12 0 - 1953 12 0 I would only count 2010 and 2012 as recent top tens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 After a morning low of 63, already up to 82 degrees, for sure a warmer feel than recent days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, lee59 said: I would only count 2010 and 2012 as recent top tens. Lol why? The numbers are the numbers. Even when it's a below normal July we're in the top 20 warmest months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 1 hour ago, uncle W said: no need to because this summer has seen its share of heat waves and drenching rains... NYC actually had a 10.00 +July but Miami didn’t. Monthly Total Precipitation for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Season Mean 5.36 5.36 2021 11.09 11.09 2020 6.58 6.58 2019 5.77 5.77 2018 7.45 7.45 2017 4.19 4.19 2016 7.02 7.02 2015 3.98 3.98 2014 5.59 5.59 2013 2.84 2.84 2012 4.21 4.21 2011 3.03 3.03 2010 2.60 2.60 Monthly Total Precipitation for Miami Area, FL (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Jul Season Mean 8.70 8.70 2021 8.18 8.18 2020 10.26 10.26 2019 10.54 10.54 2018 8.02 8.02 2017 12.45 12.45 2016 4.11 4.11 2015 5.91 5.91 2014 10.29 10.29 2013 12.70 12.70 2012 8.92 8.92 2011 5.71 5.71 2010 7.36 7.36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 2 hours ago, bluewave said: The NWS had their major upgrade back in the 1990s. So it was a joint effort between the NWS and FAA. Each ASOS has to maintain sitting rules which are in the handbook for accurate measurements. I believe the NWS Eastern region HQ near ISP is in charge of maintaining the network So that may be the place to ask about the Central Park ASOS violating the sitting rules with trees blocking the sensors. https://www.weather.gov/erh/ERDivisions Thank you BW. I used the link and contacted the ASOS group. I was specific and, of course, courteous mentioning our concerns. I also mentioned the forum as the source and education point for my correspondence with them. I also stated that I had been in contact with the Conservancy I finished by making a simple request for an environmental evaluation of the CPK ASOS location.We shall see. As always …. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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