uofmiami Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, psv88 said: So it’s near a pool? if all of the local ASOS sites are well above your readings that’s an indication your readings are off. I don’t know what else to say. Muttontown is 12 feet+ away from the pool. I have two stations (N Syosset & Muttontown) a couple of miles within each other and they are .2 or so within each other during the day for their highs. They are fine. I don’t live next to an ASOS which are surrounded by blacktop that are not in either neighborhood. When I lived in Great Neck it was hilarious seeing LGA always warmer yet I guess my GN station was just wrong all the time then too. Seems like you can’t accept microclimates of LI if they don’t read 90+ all the time. I’m tenths of degrees away from 90 at times at both yet they are wrong. Guess I should move the stations to the edge of the properties next to the street, winter lows will bust warm but at least I can have those hot summer temps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, uofmiami said: Muttontown is 12 feet+ away from the pool. I have two stations (N Syosset & Muttontown) a couple of miles within each other and they are .2 or so within each other during the day for their highs. They are fine. I don’t live next to an ASOS which are surrounded by blacktop that are not in either neighborhood. When I lived in Great Neck it was hilarious seeing LGA always warmer yet I guess my GN station was just wrong all the time then too. Seems like you can’t accept microclimates of LI if they don’t read 90+ all the time. I’m tenths of degrees away from 90 at times at both yet they are wrong. Guess I should move the stations to the edge of the properties next to the street, winter lows will bust warm but at least I can have those hot summer temps. Maybe you have a microclimate by you. Who knows. But it’s not representative of the general area. my station, which is in lockstep with all of the surrounding stations (including @STORMANLIwho is within a mile from here), is located in a large patch of grass in a shaded part of the yard. my dewpoint readings may be high because it’s over grass, but the temp is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Jfk and lga both at 90. Ewr 92 Brief downpour now. Picked up .07" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Jfk and lga both at 90. Ewr 92 Brief downpour now. Picked up .07" Brutally hot out here, no wind and 90. Westhampton back to 90 as well. Really miss the sea breeze today. My house under renovation and we are relegated outside for meals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Made it to 90° here after am low of 76°...ending heatwaves without t storms is like a cold wave without snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Under partly sunny skies, the temperature rose into the upper 80s at the New York Botanical Garden this afternoon. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 wow, giant swallowtails are not common in this area 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, psv88 said: Maybe you have a microclimate by you. Who knows. But it’s not representative of the general area. my station, which is in lockstep with all of the surrounding stations (including @STORMANLIwho is within a mile from here), is located in a large patch of grass in a shaded part of the yard. my dewpoint readings may be high because it’s over grass, but the temp is accurate. My Syosset station has a higher DP than it should, probably because over grass as well like yours. Trust me if my station was reading off compared to my other station 2 miles away, I'd be replacing it and looking to move it as well. I even have a parking lot abutting part of my Syosset property. It's representative for the N Syosset-Muttontown area btwn Jericho Tpke and Northern Blvd, as both stations are in that zone. Whether the typography plays a role, who knows, as I haven't studied it. I'm 210 feet in Syosset and 154 feet in Muttontown, as I recall. As an aside, topped out at 88 for both. 87.8 in Syosset & 88.3 in Muttontown today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Dry cold front? Felt better as the day went on. Side note, lantern flies are at plague level. They are definitely hitting up my black walnut this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Hit 91/69 for the high today, so officially a heat wave here in Lindenhurst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, psv88 said: Brutally hot out here, no wind and 90. Westhampton back to 90 as well. Really miss the sea breeze today. My house under renovation and we are relegated outside for meals I’m in Long Beach today and it was disgusting here too. I’m sure not as hot as my place but higher humidity might even it up. It’s that time of year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Today featured temperatures in the upper 80s and lower 90s across the region. Cooler temperatures are likely starting tomorrow. 90° Days for Select Cities (through August 14): Albany: 4 (2020: 13 days; 5-Year Average: 13.6 days) Allentown: 21 (2020: 24 days; 5-Year Average: 27.6 days) Baltimore: 42 (2020: 46 days; 5-Year Average: 44.6 days) Boston: 20 (2020: 14 days; 5-Year Average: 17.2 days) Bridgeport: 10 (2020: 11 days; 5-Year Average: 13.4 days) Burlington: 9 (2020: 20 days; 5-Year Average: 13.0 days) Harrisburg: 28 (2020: 35 days; 5-Year Average: 30.6 days) Hartford: 21 (2020: 39 days; 5-Year Average: 29.0 days) Islip: 6 (2020: 8 days; 5-Year Average: 9.4 days) New York City-JFK: 8 (2020: 12 days; 5-Year Average: 10.2 days) New York City-LGA: 21 (2020: 34 days; 5-Year Average: 29.4 days) New York City-NYC: 14 (2020: 20 days; 5-Year Average: 18.2 days) Newark: 32 (2020: 32 days; 5-Year Average: 31.2 days) Philadelphia: 29 (2020: 36 days; 5-Year Average: 34.6 days) Scranton: 16 (2020: 25 days; 5-Year Average: 16.4 days) Washington, DC: 38 (2020: 46 days; 5-Year Average: 50.8 days) New York City-Newark Average: 19 (2020: 22 days) ...Expected: 21 (based on regression equation tied to JFK-LGA-EWR data) A cold front will move across the region tomorrow. It could trigger showers and thunderstorms. Sunday will turn cooler. At least the first half of next week will likely see near to somewhat below normal readings. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.3°C for the week centered around August 4. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.48°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.23°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely prevail into mid-September. The SOI was -4.67 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was +0.628 today. On August 12 the MJO was in Phase 2 at an amplitude of 2.423 (RMM). The August 11-adjusted amplitude was 2.403 (RMM). The August 12 preliminary amplitude would surpass the August record amplitude of 2.329 during Phase 2, which was set on August 16, 2009. Extremely strong passage of the MJO through Phase 2 at this time of year has often been followed by additional bouts of heat in the Pacific Northwest into at least mid-autumn. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 56% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal August (1991-2020 normal). August will likely finish with a mean temperature near 76.3° (0.3° above normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 8/14 ACY: 93 EWR: 92 BLM: 92 ISP: 91 JFK: 91 New Brnswck: 91 LGA: 91 PHL: 90 TEB: 89 TTN: 88 NYC: 88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 nice breeze blowing from the north i assume the front has passed by.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Got to 90 here. 4 day heatwave in Brooklyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 High of 86 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 High for the day was 92 here. Current temp 77/DP 59/RH 55% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, forkyfork said: wow, giant swallowtails are not common in this area nice spot There has been a northern expansion of the range of the giant swallowtail in recent years which has been linked to increasingly warm temperatures, and particularly to a lack of September frosts in regions of expansion starting in 2001. Larvae were then able to withstand a few frosts before they pupated. The immediate effects of this warming, as well as their effect on host plants and predators, can explain the giant swallowtail's range expansion.[11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Claus Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, ForestHillWx said: Dry cold front? Felt better as the day went on. Side note, lantern flies are at plague level. They are definitely hitting up my black walnut this year. buy a salt gun and prepare for war my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 8 hours ago, binbisso said: I think what makes this summer feel less hot is the constant breaks we've had. The heat waves while impressive have been short lived. We had the very cold Memorial Day weekend even though technically not summer cool 4th of July weekend and then 2 cool weeks from late July into the 1st week of August. the hot summers I remember is the relentless 90゚ heat from late June into early to mid August before we get that 1st refreshing cold front. And those hot summers were usually dry too. This year it's 3 or 4 hours of nineties with 100゚ heat index before a thunderstorm cools things off late afternoon Yeah more breaks from the heat than in recent memory. Doesnt have to have alot of 90s but the relatively high amount of below 80 highs and some days mainly in the 60s all day hurt the perception to some people. There was a few deceptive midnight high temp days that were actually very cool for summer. Also lots of rain in July. Early heat in June adjusted people to extreme heat, then run of the mill warm days dont hit the same after. I wouldnt call it a cool summer, but I get how it could be perceived that way, at least east of the hudson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/12/2021 at 9:03 PM, nycwinter said: i live near the park nws feels it is important to keep official readings in the park,, yes for continuity, but there was a break in continuity when they switched to an automated system and stopped trimming the greenery. It was an official heat wave on the south shore, the last three days it was 91-94-92 here. That 94 on Friday was the hottest it's been here all summer. And had a late high of 92 here on Saturday thanks to the west wind and the sun that broke out around 3 PM (the high was at 3:15 PM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, dWave said: Yeah more breaks from the heat than in recent memory. Doesnt have to have alot of 90s but the relatively high amount of below 80 highs and some days mainly in the 60s all day hurt the perception to some people. There was a few deceptive midnight high temp days that were actually very cool for summer. Also lots of rain in July. Early heat in June adjusted people to extreme heat, then run of the mill warm days dont hit the same after. I wouldnt call it a cool summer, but I get how it could be perceived that way, at least east of the hudson. it's not perceptive to me, I judge heat by number of hot days and that has to be number of 90 degree days. For me the last several summers haven't been nearly as hot as 2010, 11, and previous summers were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said: nice spot There has been a northern expansion of the range of the giant swallowtail in recent years which has been linked to increasingly warm temperatures, and particularly to a lack of September frosts in regions of expansion starting in 2001. Larvae were then able to withstand a few frosts before they pupated. The immediate effects of this warming, as well as their effect on host plants and predators, can explain the giant swallowtail's range expansion.[11 September is now a summer month here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, SACRUS said: 8/14 ACY: 93 EWR: 92 BLM: 92 ISP: 91 JFK: 91 New Brnswck: 91 LGA: 91 PHL: 90 TEB: 89 TTN: 88 NYC: 88 yay JFK beat NYC by 3 degrees! 92 here on the south shore at 3:15 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 7 hours ago, jm1220 said: I’m in Long Beach today and it was disgusting here too. I’m sure not as hot as my place but higher humidity might even it up. It’s that time of year. I HATE sea breezes and I love the land breeze that gave us this night dry heat day. By the way I've been thinking about something, according to thermodynamics doesn't heat flow from hot to cold? So shouldn't that imply that sea breezes should be rare (since they involve cold air over water going to hot land?) How does the sea breeze manage to disobey thermodynamics laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 7 hours ago, jm1220 said: I’m in Long Beach today and it was disgusting here too. I’m sure not as hot as my place but higher humidity might even it up. It’s that time of year. hit 92 here on the south shore today at 3:15, it was a wonderful dry heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: Jfk and lga both at 90. Ewr 92 Brief downpour now. Picked up .07" made it to 91 at the airports and 92 here on the south shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 12 hours ago, Rjay said: 89 is my high here so far. 88 ISP (last hour) wow you weren't as hot as I was and yet I'm closer to the ocean (2 miles from it), hit 92 here to complete the heat wave. Why the discrepancy with the JFK temp on Thursday? It was 91 here that day and 94 on Friday, the hottest of the summer so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 11 hours ago, binbisso said: I think what makes this summer feel less hot is the constant breaks we've had. The heat waves while impressive have been short lived. We had the very cold Memorial Day weekend even though technically not summer cool 4th of July weekend and then 2 cool weeks from late July into the 1st week of August. the hot summers I remember is the relentless 90゚ heat from late June into early to mid August before we get that 1st refreshing cold front. And those hot summers were usually dry too. This year it's 3 or 4 hours of nineties with 100゚ heat index before a thunderstorm cools things off late afternoon I mean it's been hot but not among the hottest. I have a specific criteria for hot and it depends on number of 90 degree highs. The hottest summers to me have been 1983, 1991, 1993, 2002, 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: it's not perceptive to me, I judge heat by number of hot days and that has to be number of 90 degree days. For me the last several summers haven't been nearly as hot as 2010, 11, and previous summers were. I understand many people have their own definitions of hot and cold weather but in the end I just go by the numbers. Whatever they are, they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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