WxWatcher007 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 For banter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said: For banter. Thanks! So here we are in the "cone" at the beginning of 4th of July weekend. It would be nice to have the weekend off, but with an important web project due at the end of next week, with some slight risk of power going out, I will do the bulk of the project this weekend "just in case". After Irma, I had to run an extension cord from my car to my laptop on my front porch to make refunds and reschedule guests who were booked on Clearwater Beach condos for my client. The condos were without power for two weeks, their office as well. Cleanup and repairs took a couple weeks longer and one of the buildings was shut down for a couple months for repairs. (And Irma was NOT a direct hit.) My work PC is a super-powerful Dell with two 4K monitors, so working on a laptop was a nightmare for me! But at least I could do it when the rest of team was offline totally. Yea, PTSD, but if nothing else, if we do get Elsa come by, I can enjoy the storm or tend to our home/yard knowing some of my professional work is done. If it misses, I have a couple days without much pressure next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Posting from Boca Raton. The 5pm cone moved to where we are now barely on the edge of it. Wouldn't mind a nice squally day to watch on Tuesday following the long weekend but really don't want to lose power. It seems that being on the edge of the cone four days out means you're gonna get a direct hit, going by how things have been going lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Hope it totally misses you! AND Surfside of course! The "cones" have been better the last couple years. But last year it seemed west LA and east TX were always in the cones from days out and stayed in them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 OK, gotta get it out of my system, promise this will be all... Elsa says: The cold never bothered me anyway.... The shear never bothered me anyway.... The land never bothered me anyway... Any others? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Yea, the Elsa memes are out there! https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/07/02/storm-elsa-meme/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 More: https://insidethemagic.net/2021/07/hurricane-elsa-memes-kc1/ I haven't seen the "Frozen" movies myself. Words to "Let the Storm Rage On" which Elsa sings: Lyrics The snow glows white on the mountain tonightNot a footprint to be seenA kingdom of isolationAnd it looks like I'm the queen The wind is howling like this swirling storm insideCouldn't keep it in, heaven knows I've triedDon't let them in, don't let them seeBe the good girl you always have to beConceal, don't feel, don't let them knowWell, now they know Let it go, let it goCan't hold it back anymoreLet it go, let it goTurn away and slam the doorI don't care what they're going to sayLet the storm rage onThe cold never bothered me anyway It's funny how some distance makes everything seem smallAnd the fears that once controlled me can't get to me at allIt's time to see what I can doTo test the limits and break throughNo right, no wrong, no rules for meI'm free Let it go, let it goI am one with the wind and skyLet it go, let it goYou'll never see me cryHere I stand and here I stayLet the storm rage on My power flurries through the air into the groundMy soul is spiraling in frozen fractals all aroundAnd one thought crystallizes like an icy blastI'm never going back, the past is in the past Let it go, let it goWhen I'll rise like the break of dawnLet it go, let it goThat perfect girl is goneHere I stand in the light of dayLet the storm rage onThe cold never bothered me anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, mayjawintastawm said: OK, gotta get it out of my system, promise this will be all... Elsa says: The cold never bothered me anyway.... The shear never bothered me anyway.... The land never bothered me anyway... Any others? Except that the cold DID bother her... remember when she couldn't get her act together in the eastern Atlantic because of the cold SSTs? Very un-Elsa-like... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I was trying to remember what storm it was late last year that knocked down a tree our backyard and left a debris mess to clean up. I couldn't remember, being an active year. But after looking determined it was Eta on November 11. Eta was a monster for a while, but by the time it made it to Florida it was a Tropical Storm. We had 7 inches of rain, a couple hours of TS winds and gusts to 60 mph. That's not unusual for the Tampa Bay area during storm season, but funny how quickly I forgot the name of the storm. That said, even a little ol' Tropical Storm can disrupt normal every day activities and have some unexpected costs. https://twitter.com/CHawleyFOX13/status/1326685864114655233?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1326685864114655233|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabay.com%2Fhurricane%2F2020%2F11%2F11%2Flive-updates-florida-in-path-of-category-1-hurricane-eta%2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akeem the African Dream Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Prospero said: I was trying to remember what storm it was late last year that knocked down a tree our backyard and left a debris mess to clean up. I couldn't remember, being an active year. But after looking determined it was Eta on November 11. Eta was a monster for a while, but by the time it made it to Florida it was a Tropical Storm. We had 7 inches of rain, a couple hours of TS winds and gusts to 60 mph. That's not unusual for the Tampa Bay area during storm season, but funny how quickly I forgot the name of the storm. That said, even a little ol' Tropical Storm can disrupt normal every day activities and have some unexpected costs. https://twitter.com/CHawleyFOX13/status/1326685864114655233?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1326685864114655233|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabay.com%2Fhurricane%2F2020%2F11%2F11%2Flive-updates-florida-in-path-of-category-1-hurricane-eta%2F Eta was an over performer especially for November more damage from eta than in any of the storms in the previous 5 years combined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Akeem the African Dream said: Eta was an over performer especially for November more damage from eta than in any of the storms in the previous 5 years combined Eta did bring the highest storm surge I've seen since I've been in Gulfport (2006). But we've had several storms with more damaging winds and TS Debbie takes the cake for rain at 16 inches. It had a respectable storm surge with strong winds as well and was the highest surge until Eta. Nestor was high too. I was in Hillsborough County for Charlie, Frances, and Jeane. All three took down trees and caused a lot of damage and knocked out power, Jeane for a couple weeks where I lived. We had one band from Hurricane Hermine and I was in Clearwater Beach trying to get home to Gulfport. For about 30 minutes I was thinking I was going to be washed off the bridge and swept away into the Inter-coastal Waterway. Driving down Alt 19 the wind was intense and I could barely see. But it passed and I made it home to see a broken oak tree resting on our house. Irma was the worst though. Yet there were several other Tropical Storms that had us on our toes for a while, too many to mention or try to remember without looking at photos or receipts for repairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Models are meh with this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 42 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Models are meh with this For good reason. We won't know anything until it passes Cuba. It could be a bust, or might be something. Looking more like a bust right now. But the fat lady ain't singing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I look forward to the "land dance" around the islands on a satellite loop soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Do storms usually get that large burst in the evenings? I remember something similar happening with a storm last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rhino16 said: Do storms usually get that large burst in the evenings? I remember something similar happening with a storm last year. There is something called "diurnal convection". The following is a quote from Google search: "Since water has a much greater heat capacity than air aloft, during night the upper atmosphere cools much quicker than the ocean surface. This creates a larger vertical difference in temperature in a given air parcel vs. daytime and thus more favorable conditions for deep convection." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Prospero said: There is something called "diurnal convection". The following is a quote from Google search: "Since water has a much greater heat capacity than air aloft, during night the upper atmosphere cools much quicker than the ocean surface. This creates a larger vertical difference in temperature in a given air parcel vs. daytime and thus more favorable conditions for deep convection." Thanks. Thought it might have been the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospero Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 What makes me a total weather nerd: Been in the five day cone for what feels like 10 days Models of different intensities have been over my house for what feels like over a month I've searched at least 20 pages of Google search results for any historic or interesting "Elsa" names, songs, or characters (Frozen 2 and Born Free are all that come up) Everybody is out partying or being with friends and family on 4th of July eve, and I'm going from sats, models, reports, and this forum over and over and over waiting for anything new My wife is watching TV asking what in the world am I doing. "Adult chat?" "No not at all, Met Storm chat." I wake up at night and grab my phone to see the latest sats, reports, and this forum... Yet I am happy as can be. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayjawintastawm Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 7:14 PM, cptcatz said: Except that the cold DID bother her... remember when she couldn't get her act together in the eastern Atlantic because of the cold SSTs? Very un-Elsa-like... right... and the shear is not helping either. A TC is a TC, mostly. Remember Wilma? Lots of good fodder for that one, and it was actually pretty consequential. Hurricane Barney, on the other hand, probably not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Could Elsa become another Charlie? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Could Elsa become another Charlie?Charley was already well-organized and made landfall as a hurricane in Cuba. Elsa, though convectively active, is still yet to put itself in a position to intensify rapidly. Now could that occur? Sure. But it needs to be developed to really take advantage of diffluence. Otherwise, it's high end TS to minimal hurricane at best. I don't think this will be a Charley. Too much against it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, FLweather said: That convection over the Orlando area crazy atm. Bad lightening and heavy rain and gusty. It's lighting up. But I was sitting on the back porch. Almost looked like 830-9 pm. And I smelled ozone. Been along time since I smelled ozone. Come again? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: Come again? Lol Ozone. Smells like chlorine. Right after a bad storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, FLweather said: Ozone. Smells like chlorine. Right after a bad storm. Kinda like Chlorine, but also somewhat Fruity? Kind of a weird smell that I can’t describe well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 44 minutes ago, FLweather said: Ozone. Smells like chlorine. Right after a bad storm. 32 minutes ago, Rhino16 said: Kinda like Chlorine, but also somewhat Fruity? Kind of a weird smell that I can’t describe well. Wow! Had no idea ozone was something you could actually smell! Is it only after tropical systems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: Wow! Had no idea ozone was something you could actually smell! Is it only after tropical systems? I think you can smell it if you’ve ever turned on one of those Plasma Globes, or sometimes if you can put on a really staticy sweater even. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Rhino16 said: I think you can smell it if you’ve ever turned on one of those Plasma Globes, or sometimes if you can put on a really staticy sweater even. A similar smell sometimes when an electric motor fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbullsfan22 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 So what’s up, Elsa too small of a storm to bring everyone out. Seems quiet in the main thread with it as close to land as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Elsa is experiencing so much shear to its West that it’s becoming little more than an average thunderstorm. If anything, it’s the perfect warm up storm for South West Florida for what could well be another active hurricane season. Hopefully roofs and structures that are borderline will get much needed attention once Elsa passes through and dumps on the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, Dbullsfan22 said: So what’s up, Elsa too small of a storm to bring everyone out. Seems quiet in the main thread with it as close to land as it is. Yep it's weird to see this thread dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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