July 2021 Discussion

[HoarfrostHubb]

4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

There was a time back in either the 80’s or maybe early 90’s when there was a ton of fires in West Va. I remember the skies here were thick with smoke from those , but not sure if it was this bad 

I don’t recall that event.  I can’t say I have ever seen smoke like this before. 

[dendrite]

15 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Yeah 'been wondering.

Not sure what the return rate is on smoke circumventing the global and choking far away geographies.  

I remember .. shoot, I wanna say 2003, summer.  There were wild fires in Canada that summer and we got stuck in a high troposphere conveyor that brought a lot of smoke down but confined above~ > 20 K elevation. I mean it looked like busted mammata up there under ... 80 F with a dim orb sun.  I thought that was impressive. Never on the ground though.

I was just thinking about this very same subject an hour ago, when we bottomed out at 2 mi vis in yellow pall under diffused headache blinding obliterating sun shine, just how weird it was how you could smell what burned 2500 miles away.  

I don't recall that kind of fully integrated over-turning, either.

7/7/2002

That was fairly similar with mostly 2SM vis, but it was a little more widespread.

[Cyclone-68]

Maybe some interesting reading: 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England's_Dark_Day

[dendrite]

8 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

I don’t recall that event.  I can’t say I have ever seen smoke like this before. 

[WxWatcher007]

This is pretty extraordinary. First time I can recall smelling smoke and seeing visibility this low. Normal day on top, today on bottom.
 

[tamarack]

My senior year in HS (1963) included a super smoky October as a fire was burning all month in the state forest 5-6 miles away.  Each day we could track where the fire was hottest by spotting the thickest/tallest smoke column.  Much smaller than the sources of today's smoke (~3,000 acres) but stubborn.  Glaciers had dumped loads of boulders there and trees/mountain laurel had grown up thru the spaces between rocks.  Duff and litterfall desiccated by the driest October on record (0.14" in NYC, 0.10" on the 31st) burned readily and with roots/litter among the rock gardens, firefighters would be watering down flames in front only to have more follow the fuel and pop up behind.

[klw]

35 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

There was a time back in either the 80’s or maybe early 90’s when there was a ton of fires in West Va. I remember the skies here were thick with smoke from those , but not sure if it was this bad 

So are you saying that you are little hazy on the details?

 

 

On a different note, it looks like some storms moving into NVT in a hour or so.

 

[DomNH]

Looks like I traded 65F and drizzle for FU. Can’t wait to be home. F me.

[TalcottWx]

This smoke is incredible. I know Dendrite posted July 2 2002, but I was 11 when that happened.

 

[BrianW]

Cool site to track the smoke and air quality. 

https://fire.airnow.gov/#

 

[Chrisrotary12]

As others have remarked, I too don't remember smoke at the surface like this. This is two events this month. I recall many events where the smoke was elevated though. 

The smell today is different than I remember though. I seem to remember smelling burnt pine in the past. But today smells like burnt plastic almost.

[powderfreak]

2 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

Man FROPAs of yore on guidance. 

A chilly first week of August on guidance.  That 12z GFS was just below normal 2-M and 850mb for like 7 days straight starting Saturday or even just later this week.

 

[Torch Tiger]

Love this weather and smoke.  

[Typhoon Tip]

2 hours ago, dendrite said:

7/7/2002

That was fairly similar with mostly 2SM vis, but it was a little more widespread.

I was living in Winchester MA at the time..

I memory that as a very elevated smoke layer. I also recall looping sat and it was a narrow band but ..could be miss-remembering -  .. heh, working on 20 years ago. 

yeah, here it is -

[HoarfrostHubb]

That’s pretty cool.  I def don’t remember it at all.  

[Typhoon Tip]

55 minutes ago, Chrisrotary12 said:

As others have remarked, I too don't remember smoke at the surface like this. This is two events this month. I recall many events where the smoke was elevated though. 

The smell today is different than I remember though. I seem to remember smelling burnt pine in the past. But today smells like burnt plastic almost.

Just a thought ... 2002 and other fires of smokey lore, were really our backyard geographies.  I mean Ontario? c'mon

This?  Come from across the continent, where from/via passage over and through industry - just wondering if there is some weird binding with industrial aerosol waste mixing in with it then being worked on by UV ... viola.  We have a special kind of carcinogenic nox - lol...

[WxWatcher007]

Nuts

 

[Damage In Tolland]

The sun lowers. The smoke plume appears to have raised just a bit higher. Early afternoon it was at sea level 

[dendrite]

42 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I was living in Winchester MA at the time..

I memory that as a very elevated smoke layer. I also recall looping sat and it was a narrow band but ..could be miss-remembering -  .. heh, working on 20 years ago. 

yeah, here it is -

More here…

https://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/68737.pdf

[dendrite]

 

[Damage In Tolland]

4 minutes ago, dendrite said:

 

 

[HoarfrostHubb]

My son is at the game at Fenway tonight 

 

[powderfreak]

2 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

My son is at the game at Fenway tonight 

 

Look at that haze.  Crazy.

[Damage In Tolland]

You guys remember this guy before they spilt the subforums? His name was Pbard. 
 

I mean lololol

 

[mreaves]

50 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

The sun lowers. The smoke plume appears to have raised just a bit higher. Early afternoon it was at sea level 

No longer Smoke on the Water?

[LSC97wxnut]

Really does smell like a camp fire too.

[mreaves]

26 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

 

 

[KoalaBeer]

Hampton, NH looking over the salt marsh.

 

[Ginx snewx]

So my view from the womens softball field at IJD, no filter

[bristolri_wx]

4 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Rain rain I don't mind the weather is fine.

If the rain comes
They run and hide their heads
They might as well be dead
If the rain comes
If the rain comes

When the sun shines
They slip into the shade
(When the sun shines down)
And sip their lemonade
(When the sun shines down)
When the sun shines
When the sun shines

Rain, I don't mind
Shine, the weather's fine

B-side of Paperback Writer.  Great track! Underrated...