wdrag Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Uncertainty as always but SPC has expanded their D1 into our area, and the attached 12z HRRR suggests iso 50-55KT gusts into PA/NJ/LI, mirroring the 00z/19 EC OP. Looks to me like 90-95F today (non marine), decent CAPE. The severe risk suppresses south tomorrow, but WAA begins late Sunday and then both Monday and Tuesday look steamy 90-95F inland, depending on sunshine which also implies cirrus from Claudette possibly tempering heat/cape. This should result in pockets of heavy convection, and where training, could see a ISOLATED max of 4" by 6PM Tuesday. Otherwise, the necessarily more conservative early Saturday WPC outlook works. So while not a big deal (yet) for heavy rain, the convection later today, later Monday and Tuesday could provide some news (damage) footage, including lightning related. Walt 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Looks to me like the HRRR is the way to go, with some south extension blend of the EC/GFS etc. Models have generally missed Nw PA and sw NYS, even CT. I have no answer except the 19z HRRR cons spewing near 50KT gust ne NJ across n LI this eve. Whether that occurs, per SPC and my gut, am not confident but this is a developing situation into this eve. Should be decent qpf I78 to I80 and maybe LI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 And a sampler of weather station data: several 1"-1.5" in NNJ near I80. No svr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 n/c from the overall expectations the next 3 days. timing will mean a lot for Tuesday. WAA isolated or a couple of clusters of showers/storms late today this eve for NJ/NYS/PA; Dying line of SVR appears likely into se NYS/w NJ Mon eve; then the timing of convection and potential svr for Tue. Right now, SPC doesn't like our chances for Tue. Have a wonderful Fathers Day! Attached RFC produced real for yesterday. Seems a little low in the axis, as per previous post of weather station data. Also low per pure radar estimates. Walt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 So you saw the spotty thunderstorms Sunday afternoon NNJ and extreme as NYS I think dying in sw CT last eve. Haven’t looked real close but believe big storms die out NYC li in the 10ptomidnight time frame today w SPC severe just w of NYC. Tuesday may. Or be severe if this eve is, but have to thiink band of beavy showers and storms Tuesday I95 corridor east. Gotta go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Day 1 Convective Outlook NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 1114 AM CDT Mon Jun 21 2021 Valid 211630Z - 221200Z ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING FROM CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA INTO VERMONT.... ...SUMMARY... Scattered severe thunderstorms are expected from the upper Ohio Valley and Mid-Atlantic into northern New England, capable of damaging gusts, sporadic severe hail, and perhaps a couple of tornadoes. ...Northeast States... Water vapor imagery shows a broad upper trough digging across the Great Lakes region, with the associated cold front sweeping across southeast Ontario and OH. Mostly clear skies and dewpoints in the 60s to lower 70s ahead of the front, coupled with steep midlevel lapse rates shown on 12z raobs and model forecast soundings will yield a moderately unstable air mass by early afternoon (MLCAPE over 2000 J/kg). It appears thunderstorms will develop by early afternoon along the front - and in the free warm sector to the east. Vertical shear will be sufficient for a mix of multicell and occasional supercell structures, capable of damaging winds and large hail. Low level shear is strongest over Quebec, but may be sufficient over parts of VT/NY for an isolated tornado or two as well. Activity will sweep eastward across the ENH risk area through the early evening, before weakening as it approaches cooler marine-influenced air mass over eastern New England and NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 I've got a few minutes to add some impressions... Watch likely MCD is out. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1048.html NJ expectations later in the day/eve. Will check CoCoRAHS for two days and revisit tomorrow. WPC is rather paltry on qpf the next 24 hours, so i could be misreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Warnings OH/PA at 1, probably to NJ by ~7PM ish. Should be pretty fast moving. Max rainfalls so far past two days ~1.5" sw Ct and N Central NJ. Unsure whether 12z/21 EC is a tease overdone, but if not... plenty of rain coming with high KI, PWAT, and some decent Cape NYC eastward tomorrow + decent flow aloft. Clusters heavy rain and weak sfc CAA Tuesday may limit the svr threat Tuesday, but eastern LI might be interesting? For now, though would monitor this evening in our subforum. I probably won't be able to contribute after 430P-10P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Watch finally went up here. 60/20 on wind and 40/30 hail, not expecting much action until post-6/7 PM by which time who knows if the storms will begin to drop off by the time they get to my doorstep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 We need rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 this is looking impressive. i think good storms make it to the hudson river 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Drove through a big storm in DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Just watered the grass. Not expecting much here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: this is looking impressive. i think good storms make it to the hudson river Very slow moving. It'll die out once it crosses into NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Mesoscale Discussion 1056 NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK 0550 PM CDT Mon Jun 21 2021 Areas affected...central and eastern New York into northeast Pennsylvania and far northern New Jersey Concerning...Severe Thunderstorm Watch 300...303... Valid 212250Z - 212345Z The severe weather threat for Severe Thunderstorm Watch 300, 303 continues. SUMMARY...A line of severe thunderstorms with a history of severe gusts and wind damage will likely continue to pose a risk for damaging gusts and perhaps a tornado or two this evening. Additional storm development/consolidation across southern New York and northeast Pennsylvania will pose a risk for damaging winds. DISCUSSION...Ahead of the cold front moving across western New York, a line of thunderstorms near Syracuse has produced a measured severe gust and numerous reports of wind damage over the last hour. Radar data shows a well developed comma head/bowing segment developing east of the KTYX radar. Damaging winds will be likely with this cluster of thunderstorms as they track to the east northeast over the next couple of hours. Regional VWP data also suggests some mesovortex tornado threat may evolve with 0-1km SRH around 100 ms/s2 and 0-3km line normal shear around 30 kts. Some weakening of this portions of the line may occur closer to the border with Vermont as downstream convection has resulted in some airmass modification. Until then, a corridor of greater severe potential will likely evolve. To the south across portions of northeastern Pennsylvania and southern New York, several clusters of developing thunderstorms were noted along a line from Binghamton to Allentown. Additional storm development should consolidate into a linear mode with the potential for increasing damaging wind threat as storms track through northern New Jersey and southern New York this evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Very slow moving. It'll die out once it crosses into NJ. We’ll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Very slow moving. It'll die out once it crosses into NJ. So far this has been a nothingburger as it passes near my location in eastern PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Lightening up to my north west, a few rumbles. New chickens have been safely escorted into the coop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Good storms are going to make it to the hudson river alright... Just not in Jersey lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Tornado warned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, BxEngine said: Tornado warned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Yup, hook on radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Lightning was impressive with this line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 We just had a massive strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Tornado warning cancelled over here by HPN. I can hear rumbles but the heavy stuff is heading north east of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycemt123 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 What a lightshow!!Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 few reports of damage far nw NJ, 0.65 Wantage. Almost over and tomorrow looks like a band or two of heavy showers but svr unlikely except small possibility LI/CT/Coastal NJ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Thunder lightning and some rain here after 2-3 am..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 .01" No thunder or lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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