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The Rule of "11's" in New York City Summers - Bake-offs


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1944,1955 (hottest and driest July until 1999),1966 (three days over 100°), 1977 (three days over 100°), 1988 (the start of the "global warming" hysteria and Hansen's hilarious testimony on "greenhouse effect"), 1999 (see comment on 1955) and 2010 ( two or three days over 100°, I forget, and major late August into early September heat wave) were all major bake-offs. Will 2021 repeat? I hope so unless our pool doesn't reopen soon.
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6 hours ago, JBG said:
1944,1955 (hottest and driest July until 1999),1966 (three days over 100°), 1977 (three days over 100°), 1988 (the start of the "global warming" hysteria and Hansen's hilarious testimony on "greenhouse effect"), 1999 (see comment on 1955) and 2010 ( two or three days over 100°, I forget, and major late August into early September heat wave) were all major bake-offs. Will 2021 repeat? I hope so unless our pool doesn't reopen soon.
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2010 was our hottest summer on record, beating out 1966!

 

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On 6/6/2021 at 8:10 PM, LibertyBell said:

2010 was our hottest summer on record, beating out 1966!

 

It depends, I suppose, on if the summers are ranked in number of days over 90, 95, 100, or overall average. I know 1980 is the warmest for June - September, so periods of time also matter. In 2010 the heat stretched into September, In 1966 I think we hit 94° as a record once in August. I remember, in sleepaway camp in Massachusetts, July was rather hot and August downright chilly.

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On 6/13/2021 at 7:58 PM, JBG said:

It depends, I suppose, on if the summers are ranked in number of days over 90, 95, 100, or overall average. I know 1980 is the warmest for June - September, so periods of time also matter. In 2010 the heat stretched into September, In 1966 I think we hit 94° as a record once in August. I remember, in sleepaway camp in Massachusetts, July was rather hot and August downright chilly.

I view average temperatures as highly suspect as warmer mins do not impress me (how much of that is the concretization of our cities?) so I go by number of hot days (90 degrees or higher), and I specifically refer to JFK as that is closest to my location....they set the record in 2010 for both most number of 90 and 95 degree highs, I think they had 3 100 degree highs, which is 1 behind 1966.  

1980 and 1983 were both amazing in terms of sustained heat.  I think the summers I'd want to experience again would be 1980, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2002 and 2010.  I wasn't born in time for 1966, but I'd love to experience that one too.  And the winter that followed also!

 

 

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13 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

1980 and 1983 were both amazing in terms of sustained heat.  I think the summers I'd want to experience again would be 1980, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2002 and 2010.  I wasn't born in time for 1966, but I'd love to experience that one too.  And the winter that followed also!

 

 

I experienced 1966. Basically it was a six-week wonder, from the last week of June to very early August.

The other summers had much better distribution of heat. 1980 and 1983 were hot for most of June to most of September. 1991 and 1993 even better, from early May to about two to three weeks after Labor Day.1970 wasn't bad in that regard but it's top temperature for the summer I think was 94° and we didn't have quite the number of 90° toppers. 1973 topped out at 98° or 99° in late August-early September, and the heat had started around June 9 or so. 2002 at least had the merit of covering the last week of June until the heat abruptly ended in a rain bath in late August. 2010's heat covered all of July through the first two or so weeks of September.

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3 hours ago, JBG said:

I experienced 1966. Basically it was a six-week wonder, from the last week of June to very early August.

The other summers had much better distribution of heat. 1980 and 1983 were hot for most of June to most of September. 1991 and 1993 even better, from early May to about two to three weeks after Labor Day.1970 wasn't bad in that regard but it's top temperature for the summer I think was 94° and we didn't have quite the number of 90° toppers. 1973 topped out at 98° or 99° in late August-early September, and the heat had started around June 9 or so. 2002 at least had the merit of covering the last week of June until the heat abruptly ended in a rain bath in late August. 2010's heat covered all of July through the first two or so weeks of September.

June 1980 was cool and is one of only a handfull of years with a morning in the 40's in NYC...it had two...

IPS-1845AFBA-C558-4B21-8E69-EA40BBCAB538.pdf (noaa.gov)

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the cycle started in 1900...1922 was the exception...

year.....NYC 90's max.....Newark 90's max...

2010.......37.......103..........54.......103

1999.......27.......101..........33.......103

1988.......32.........99..........43.......102

1977.......23.......104..........26.......102

1966.......35.......103..........33.......105

1955.......25.......100..........32.......101

1944.......37.......102..........39.......102

1933.......21.......102..........18.......101

1922.......10.........94

1911.......15.......100

1900.......20.........97...1898 and 1901 hit 100...

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2 minutes ago, uncle W said:

local climate data has it...

Thanks.  Funny timing on the reply at the same time.   Looks like 1933 / 1911 were also perhaps like 2013 type short but strong heat.  22 the exception.  This year looks poised to join the bunch.  Perhaps long duration as well.

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On 6/24/2021 at 9:04 PM, SACRUS said:

Thanks.  Funny timing on the reply at the same time.   Looks like 1933 / 1911 were also perhaps like 2013 type short but strong heat.  22 the exception.  This year looks poised to join the bunch.  Perhaps long duration as well.

wait join which bunch?  the 11,33 bunch?

 

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On 6/24/2021 at 9:00 PM, uncle W said:

the cycle started in 1900...1922 was the exception...

year.....NYC 90's max.....Newark 90's max...

2010.......37.......103..........54.......103

1999.......27.......101..........33.......103

1988.......32.........99..........43.......102

1977.......23.......104..........26.......102

1966.......35.......103..........33.......105

1955.......25.......100..........32.......101

1944.......37.......102..........39.......102

1933.......21.......102..........18.......101

1922.......10.........94

1911.......15.......100

1900.......20.........97...1898 and 1901 hit 100...

1944 really stands out in those early years....I wonder what happened that summer to make it so hot? and then we had a famous hurricane in September....

 

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On 6/26/2021 at 2:08 AM, LibertyBell said:

1944 really stands out in those early years....I wonder what happened that summer to make it so hot? and then we had a famous hurricane in September....

 

Extreme heat days 95 or higher in NYC.....

16 in 1955

13 in 1988

12 in 1953

12 in 1993

12 in 1999

12 in 2002

10 in 1944

10 in 1980

9.. in 2005

9.. in 1983

9.. in 1966

8.. in 1963

8.. in 1991

8.. in 2010

 

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Longest heat waves 90+...NYC

#.....max.....dates

12...102...8/24-9/4 1953

11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999

10...102...7/7-7/16 1993

10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896

9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002

9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977

9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966

9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944

8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944

8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002

8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980

8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973

8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901

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1 hour ago, uncle W said:

Longest heat waves 90+...NYC

#.....max.....dates

12...102...8/24-9/4 1953

11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999

10...102...7/7-7/16 1993

10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896

9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002

9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977

9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966

9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944

8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944

8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002

8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980

8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973

8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901

July 1999 was a very hot month- it set a record at ISP on 7/5/1999 of 102; the day I broke down and decided to buy a window AC after failing to cool off at home on 7/4 and decided to leave the house at 11pm to look for a vacant motel to stay at with AC (which I found eventually on 112)

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1 hour ago, Fantom X said:

July 1999 was a very hot month- it set a record at ISP on 7/5/1999 of 102; the day I broke down and decided to buy a window AC after failing to cool off at home on 7/4 and decided to leave the house at 11pm to look for a vacant motel to stay at with AC (which I found eventually on 112)

1999 has the third hottest 30 days...

Hottest 30 day periods...

82.5 in 1980

81.9 in 1876

81.9 in 1999

81.8 in 2005

81.8 in 2010

81.7 in 2013

81.6 in 1955

81.2 in 1993

81.1 in 1995

81.1 in 1988

81.0 in 1966

81.0 in 2011

80.9 in 1983

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8 hours ago, uncle W said:

Extreme heat days 95 or higher in NYC.....

16 in 1955

13 in 1988

12 in 1953

12 in 1993

12 in 1999

12 in 2002

10 in 1944

10 in 1980

9.. in 2005

9.. in 1983

9.. in 1966

8.. in 1963

8.. in 1991

8.. in 2010

 

wow what a list!  Do you have one for JFK too?  It's amazing we had more 95 days in 2010 than NYC did!

 

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8 hours ago, uncle W said:

Longest heat waves 90+...NYC

#.....max.....dates

12...102...8/24-9/4 1953

11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999

10...102...7/7-7/16 1993

10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896

9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002

9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977

9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966

9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944

8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944

8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002

8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980

8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973

8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901

this stretch in 1993 was the hottest 10 days of heat in my memory, it's when I broke down and finally put in the a/c

10...102...7/7-7/16 1993

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5 hours ago, uncle W said:

1999 has the third hottest 30 days...

Hottest 30 day periods...

82.5 in 1980

81.9 in 1876

81.9 in 1999

81.8 in 2005

81.8 in 2010

81.7 in 2013

81.6 in 1955

81.2 in 1993

81.1 in 1995

81.1 in 1988

81.0 in 1966

81.0 in 2011

80.9 in 1983

I knew 1980 would be at the top for this, the combo of July and August that year was unmatched nationwide.

 

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54 minutes ago, JBG said:

Looks like it's just not happening this summer. Almost a summer cancel but a bit early to call that.

yeah I noted that in another thread it busted this year although it looks like we *may* get some August heat.    1988, 1999, and 2010 were true cookers

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13 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

There is if you graph north american summers for every 11 year period, it's a sea of red.....

1944, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99, 2010 were all among the hottest on record

1977 had a very hot period but I doubt that overall it was anywhere near a record. June and August were not hot.

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