JBG Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1944,1955 (hottest and driest July until 1999),1966 (three days over 100°), 1977 (three days over 100°), 1988 (the start of the "global warming" hysteria and Hansen's hilarious testimony on "greenhouse effect"), 1999 (see comment on 1955) and 2010 ( two or three days over 100°, I forget, and major late August into early September heat wave) were all major bake-offs. Will 2021 repeat? I hope so unless our pool doesn't reopen soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 6 hours ago, JBG said: 1944,1955 (hottest and driest July until 1999),1966 (three days over 100°), 1977 (three days over 100°), 1988 (the start of the "global warming" hysteria and Hansen's hilarious testimony on "greenhouse effect"), 1999 (see comment on 1955) and 2010 ( two or three days over 100°, I forget, and major late August into early September heat wave) were all major bake-offs. Will 2021 repeat? I hope so unless our pool doesn't reopen soon. 2010 was our hottest summer on record, beating out 1966! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 6/6/2021 at 8:10 PM, LibertyBell said: 2010 was our hottest summer on record, beating out 1966! It depends, I suppose, on if the summers are ranked in number of days over 90, 95, 100, or overall average. I know 1980 is the warmest for June - September, so periods of time also matter. In 2010 the heat stretched into September, In 1966 I think we hit 94° as a record once in August. I remember, in sleepaway camp in Massachusetts, July was rather hot and August downright chilly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 For reference, Dr. Hansen’s testimony can be found here: https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/june_23_1988_senate_hearing_1.pdf Graphs depicting global temperature anomalies can be found here: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 6/13/2021 at 7:58 PM, JBG said: It depends, I suppose, on if the summers are ranked in number of days over 90, 95, 100, or overall average. I know 1980 is the warmest for June - September, so periods of time also matter. In 2010 the heat stretched into September, In 1966 I think we hit 94° as a record once in August. I remember, in sleepaway camp in Massachusetts, July was rather hot and August downright chilly. I view average temperatures as highly suspect as warmer mins do not impress me (how much of that is the concretization of our cities?) so I go by number of hot days (90 degrees or higher), and I specifically refer to JFK as that is closest to my location....they set the record in 2010 for both most number of 90 and 95 degree highs, I think they had 3 100 degree highs, which is 1 behind 1966. 1980 and 1983 were both amazing in terms of sustained heat. I think the summers I'd want to experience again would be 1980, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2002 and 2010. I wasn't born in time for 1966, but I'd love to experience that one too. And the winter that followed also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 13 hours ago, LibertyBell said: 1980 and 1983 were both amazing in terms of sustained heat. I think the summers I'd want to experience again would be 1980, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2002 and 2010. I wasn't born in time for 1966, but I'd love to experience that one too. And the winter that followed also! I experienced 1966. Basically it was a six-week wonder, from the last week of June to very early August. The other summers had much better distribution of heat. 1980 and 1983 were hot for most of June to most of September. 1991 and 1993 even better, from early May to about two to three weeks after Labor Day.1970 wasn't bad in that regard but it's top temperature for the summer I think was 94° and we didn't have quite the number of 90° toppers. 1973 topped out at 98° or 99° in late August-early September, and the heat had started around June 9 or so. 2002 at least had the merit of covering the last week of June until the heat abruptly ended in a rain bath in late August. 2010's heat covered all of July through the first two or so weeks of September. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, JBG said: I experienced 1966. Basically it was a six-week wonder, from the last week of June to very early August. The other summers had much better distribution of heat. 1980 and 1983 were hot for most of June to most of September. 1991 and 1993 even better, from early May to about two to three weeks after Labor Day.1970 wasn't bad in that regard but it's top temperature for the summer I think was 94° and we didn't have quite the number of 90° toppers. 1973 topped out at 98° or 99° in late August-early September, and the heat had started around June 9 or so. 2002 at least had the merit of covering the last week of June until the heat abruptly ended in a rain bath in late August. 2010's heat covered all of July through the first two or so weeks of September. June 1980 was cool and is one of only a handfull of years with a morning in the 40's in NYC...it had two... IPS-1845AFBA-C558-4B21-8E69-EA40BBCAB538.pdf (noaa.gov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 12 hours ago, uncle W said: June 1980 was cool and is one of only a handfull of years with a morning in the 40's in NYC...it had two... IPS-1845AFBA-C558-4B21-8E69-EA40BBCAB538.pdf (noaa.gov) 1980 is also top on your list for longest period of 80 degree average (60 days I think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 2:33 PM, uncle W said: June 1980 was cool and is one of only a handfull of years with a morning in the 40's in NYC...it had two... IPS-1845AFBA-C558-4B21-8E69-EA40BBCAB538.pdf (noaa.gov) Also though a smattering of 90's and lots of 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Maybe Uncle or Don may have the 1933, 1922, 1911, and 1900 stats for the NYC area to see how past (before) 44 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 20 hours ago, SACRUS said: Maybe Uncle or Don may have the 1933, 1922, 1911, and 1900 stats for the NYC area to see how past (before) 44 . 1911 and 1933 had at least one 100-degree day. 1900 and 1922 did not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 the cycle started in 1900...1922 was the exception... year.....NYC 90's max.....Newark 90's max... 2010.......37.......103..........54.......103 1999.......27.......101..........33.......103 1988.......32.........99..........43.......102 1977.......23.......104..........26.......102 1966.......35.......103..........33.......105 1955.......25.......100..........32.......101 1944.......37.......102..........39.......102 1933.......21.......102..........18.......101 1922.......10.........94 1911.......15.......100 1900.......20.........97...1898 and 1901 hit 100... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Do we have any monthly summaries from those earlier summers 33,22,11,00? Jun - Jul - Aug averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, SACRUS said: Do we have any monthly summaries from those earlier summers 33,22,11,00? Jun - Jul - Aug averages. local climate data has it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, uncle W said: local climate data has it... Thanks. Funny timing on the reply at the same time. Looks like 1933 / 1911 were also perhaps like 2013 type short but strong heat. 22 the exception. This year looks poised to join the bunch. Perhaps long duration as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 9:04 PM, SACRUS said: Thanks. Funny timing on the reply at the same time. Looks like 1933 / 1911 were also perhaps like 2013 type short but strong heat. 22 the exception. This year looks poised to join the bunch. Perhaps long duration as well. wait join which bunch? the 11,33 bunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 On 6/24/2021 at 9:00 PM, uncle W said: the cycle started in 1900...1922 was the exception... year.....NYC 90's max.....Newark 90's max... 2010.......37.......103..........54.......103 1999.......27.......101..........33.......103 1988.......32.........99..........43.......102 1977.......23.......104..........26.......102 1966.......35.......103..........33.......105 1955.......25.......100..........32.......101 1944.......37.......102..........39.......102 1933.......21.......102..........18.......101 1922.......10.........94 1911.......15.......100 1900.......20.........97...1898 and 1901 hit 100... 1944 really stands out in those early years....I wonder what happened that summer to make it so hot? and then we had a famous hurricane in September.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 On 6/26/2021 at 2:08 AM, LibertyBell said: 1944 really stands out in those early years....I wonder what happened that summer to make it so hot? and then we had a famous hurricane in September.... Extreme heat days 95 or higher in NYC..... 16 in 1955 13 in 1988 12 in 1953 12 in 1993 12 in 1999 12 in 2002 10 in 1944 10 in 1980 9.. in 2005 9.. in 1983 9.. in 1966 8.. in 1963 8.. in 1991 8.. in 2010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Longest heat waves 90+...NYC #.....max.....dates 12...102...8/24-9/4 1953 11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896 9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002 9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977 9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966 9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944 8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944 8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002 8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980 8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973 8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantom X Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, uncle W said: Longest heat waves 90+...NYC #.....max.....dates 12...102...8/24-9/4 1953 11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896 9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002 9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977 9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966 9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944 8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944 8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002 8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980 8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973 8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901 July 1999 was a very hot month- it set a record at ISP on 7/5/1999 of 102; the day I broke down and decided to buy a window AC after failing to cool off at home on 7/4 and decided to leave the house at 11pm to look for a vacant motel to stay at with AC (which I found eventually on 112) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Fantom X said: July 1999 was a very hot month- it set a record at ISP on 7/5/1999 of 102; the day I broke down and decided to buy a window AC after failing to cool off at home on 7/4 and decided to leave the house at 11pm to look for a vacant motel to stay at with AC (which I found eventually on 112) 1999 has the third hottest 30 days... Hottest 30 day periods... 82.5 in 1980 81.9 in 1876 81.9 in 1999 81.8 in 2005 81.8 in 2010 81.7 in 2013 81.6 in 1955 81.2 in 1993 81.1 in 1995 81.1 in 1988 81.0 in 1966 81.0 in 2011 80.9 in 1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 8 hours ago, uncle W said: Extreme heat days 95 or higher in NYC..... 16 in 1955 13 in 1988 12 in 1953 12 in 1993 12 in 1999 12 in 2002 10 in 1944 10 in 1980 9.. in 2005 9.. in 1983 9.. in 1966 8.. in 1963 8.. in 1991 8.. in 2010 wow what a list! Do you have one for JFK too? It's amazing we had more 95 days in 2010 than NYC did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 8 hours ago, uncle W said: Longest heat waves 90+...NYC #.....max.....dates 12...102...8/24-9/4 1953 11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896 9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002 9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977 9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966 9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944 8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944 8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002 8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980 8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973 8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901 this stretch in 1993 was the hottest 10 days of heat in my memory, it's when I broke down and finally put in the a/c 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 hours ago, uncle W said: 1999 has the third hottest 30 days... Hottest 30 day periods... 82.5 in 1980 81.9 in 1876 81.9 in 1999 81.8 in 2005 81.8 in 2010 81.7 in 2013 81.6 in 1955 81.2 in 1993 81.1 in 1995 81.1 in 1988 81.0 in 1966 81.0 in 2011 80.9 in 1983 I knew 1980 would be at the top for this, the combo of July and August that year was unmatched nationwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Looks like it's just not happening this summer. Almost a summer cancel but a bit early to call that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, JBG said: Looks like it's just not happening this summer. Almost a summer cancel but a bit early to call that. yeah I noted that in another thread it busted this year although it looks like we *may* get some August heat. 1988, 1999, and 2010 were true cookers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 there's no cycle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 18 hours ago, forkyfork said: there's no cycle There is if you graph north american summers for every 11 year period, it's a sea of red..... 1944, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99, 2010 were all among the hottest on record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 it's a coincidence 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 hours ago, LibertyBell said: There is if you graph north american summers for every 11 year period, it's a sea of red..... 1944, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99, 2010 were all among the hottest on record 1977 had a very hot period but I doubt that overall it was anywhere near a record. June and August were not hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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