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E PA/NJ/DE Summer 2021 OBS Thread


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2 hours ago, mattinpa said:

That EF-3 is one of the biggest in the area since the Limerick tornado back in the 90s. The Limerick one was a high F3. I am not sure if that would be adjusted to a EF-4 today.

Apparently the last EF3 in the state was in 2004 in Campbelltown, which is just outside of Hershey -

The Limerick one was in 1994 - https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/20-years-ago-deadly-limerick-township-tornado/128147/

To this day I always say they were fortunate it didn't damage that nuclear plant or its cooling towers.:yikes:  In fact I saw where NRC had a conference this past March to present updated tornado risk maps to be used to modify the building design criteria - mainly due to what happened in Joplin (which was 10 years ago this year).

As an obs (and I know Birds69 is cheering this it along with the Eagles training camp start :lol:), my low so far this morning has been 58.  It's currently 59 and partly cloudy with it being not long after sunrise, with dp 52.

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19 minutes ago, BBasile said:

7 tornadoes confirmed now?   Wasn't it just a couple years ago that Mt Holly issued a record number of tornado warnings and confirmed a record number of tornadoes?  We're not in Kansas anymore....or are we?

I'm still waiting to see what the verdict was on the Rehoboth/Dewey Beach possible tornado...  I know it was on Mt. Holly's review list.

https://www.capegazette.com/article/home-struck-lightning-tornado-spotted-july-29-storm/224448

Maybe it was just considered a waterspout and/or a funnel that didn't touch down. :mellow:

ETA - I don't even hear about tornadoes in Kansas anymore.  I guess that was so 1939. :lol:

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3 hours ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

Apparently the last EF3 in the state was in 2004 in Campbelltown, which is just outside of Hershey -

The Limerick one was in 1994 - https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/20-years-ago-deadly-limerick-township-tornado/128147/

To this day I always say they were fortunate it didn't damage that nuclear plant or its cooling towers.:yikes:  In fact I saw where NRC had a conference this past March to present updated tornado risk maps to be used to modify the building design criteria - mainly due to what happened in Joplin (which was 10 years ago this year).

As an obs (and I know Birds69 is cheering this it along with the Eagles training camp start :lol:), my low so far this morning has been 58.  It's currently 59 and partly cloudy with it being not long after sunrise, with dp 52.

Thanks for the Limerick footage. Hard to believe it looks so long ago. Time flies indeed. I lived in the Collegeville area at the time and we got pretty severe weather but I was surprised to hear the tornado news in the morning. Usually in Royersford I avoid the worst storms. You are right - it didn’t miss the nuclear plant by much! 

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59 minutes ago, mattinpa said:

Thanks for the Limerick footage. Hard to believe it looks so long ago. Time flies indeed. I lived in the Collegeville area at the time and we got pretty severe weather but I was surprised to hear the tornado news in the morning. Usually in Royersford I avoid the worst storms. You are right - it didn’t miss the nuclear plant by much! 

Well I was just hunting around on the map for the EF3 in Trevose and realized that wasn't far from where I used to go to one of the drive-in cinemas in the area - the Lincoln Drive-In (before it started showing the porn movies :lol:).  It was not that far from that Faulkner dealership that took the brunt of the tornado.  I remember seeing the original "The Godfather" and "Ben" there when they first came out in '72.  Back then, they would have the $1 a carload specials.  From what I read, the location is now the Neshaminy Interplex office park.

Am currently up to 71 with dp 51, and a deck of high clouds have been coming and going, but are clearing out.

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8 hours ago, mattinpa said:

That EF-3 is one of the biggest in the area since the Limerick tornado back in the 90s. The Limerick one was a high F3. I am not sure if that would be adjusted to a EF-4 today.

I was living at your location (Royersford) in the 90s when this hit right up the road. I wish we had all the weather capabilities back in those days (internet). But then again I may have been an idiot, tried to chase and get pummeled by a flying cow...

72F / DP 51F   

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2 hours ago, mattinpa said:

You are right - it didn’t miss the nuclear plant by much! 

As a side note on Limerick, I remember back in my senior year of HS when my AP Physics class took a field trip to that Limerick plant when it was still under construction. This was back in '78/'79 and I think one of the cooling towers may have been built by then but it would be awhile before any reactor was started up and generating electricity. We got a little dog and pony show from PECO about how the reactor would work (basically having the heat boil the water to create the steam that would turn the turbine to generate the electricity) and I remember they had some interactive display things including one of those bicycle generators that you could try out to light up a bulb.  Back then they "promised" that when the plant came online, it would drop the average electric bill down to $3/month "by 1995".  :lmao:

I think we actually did that trip before Three Mile Island had it's partial meltdown. :blink:

Since I got fringed by the rain, gotta get out there and water now but the temps are perfect otherwise.  Currently 76 with dp 52 and blue sky (the high clouds have pretty much cleared out).

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2 hours ago, mattinpa said:

8 tornadoes now confirmed in PA/NJ:

 

https://6abc.com/pa-tornado-pennsylvania-weather-today-nj-wx/10921294/

 

Anyone remember a day where tornadoes in the region were that numerous? I know during Sandy there were a lot of reports but I forget how many. 

There were a few with Irene(?) in 2011, I remember at 1 am with the weather channel on and we kept getting the alerts for small tornadoes. But outside of tropical systems (where they're usually small tornadoes anyway) I don't recall a day like that. That was really exceptional I believe.

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Here in Western Chester County PA - we finished the month just a tick below normal - making this the 3rd below normal month (February/May/July) over the 1st 7 months of 2021. Allentown (ABE) also recorded a below normal month but for ABE that is their 4th below normal month so far in 2021. image.png.3091c11883307a079350b53fc0f39bc6.png

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My low today was a bit higher than yesterday's at 62.  I was looking at Mt. Holly's forecast this morning and it appears the rain chances for today pretty much evaporated before my eyes (now progged mostly to the north or south of me), so out came the hose this morning. :huh:

When I pulled it out, a few taunting sprinkles appeared but I was undeterred and plowed on... :lol:

Currently overcast and 71 with dp 65, so definitely feeling much more humid today.

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3 minutes ago, ChescoWx said:

July temp departures across the entire US

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I know people in TX haven't been complaining (but have been confused nonetheless). :lol:  The people in the NW have gotten the SW's triple digit temps.

Will be interesting to see when that pattern eventually flips (they usually do at some point).

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39 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said:

My low today was a bit higher than yesterday's at 62.  I was looking at Mt. Holly's forecast this morning and it appears the rain chances for today pretty much evaporated before my eyes (now progged mostly to the north or south of me), so out came the hose this morning. :huh:

When I pulled it out, a few taunting sprinkles appeared but I was undeterred and plowed on... :lol:

Currently overcast and 71 with dp 65, so definitely feeling much more humid today.

Yeah, nice steady band running through central Mont/Bucks this morning missing Philly for the most part. Good for the grass which is borderline yellow/brown in spots...

66F / DP 66F

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52 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

Yeah, nice steady band running through central Mont/Bucks this morning missing Philly for the most part. Good for the grass which is borderline yellow/brown in spots...

66F / DP 66F

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My wait ticket at the butcher yesterday was #66, I saved it lol :devilsmiley:

 

 

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8 tornadoes now confirmed in PA/NJ:
 
https://6abc.com/pa-tornado-pennsylvania-weather-today-nj-wx/10921294/
 
Anyone remember a day where tornadoes in the region were that numerous? I know during Sandy there were a lot of reports but I forget how many. 

It certainly was a crazy event. I do not recall spending that many hours tracking tornados in PA and NJ. I guess that is a day in the life of someone in the middle of tornado ally?


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Well after a point where I got > 2.6"/hour rates, I picked up 0.76" (so far) from that little pop-up blob.  Temp is currently down to 68 (I think it had dropped as low as 67 during the rain but is recovering), with dp 67, and still have a little light rain.

Hopefully that (plus my strategic hose watering this morning) will hold me for a few days. :D

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54 minutes ago, Birds~69 said:

We may be on to something...hopefully it's not heat miser making a winter long stay.

Dark and cool but you can definitely feel the higher DPs...

70F / DP 69F

It freaked me out a bit when the manager in a dark robe came out of the back and said it's time to execute order 66...I only wanted a pound of Cooper sharp

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38 minutes ago, CoolHandMike said:

My local WU forecast is calling for "heavy thunderstorms" around 8pm. That would be a lovely way to end the weekend. 

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Watching the Phils who are in Pitt and the front is moving through there now. Dark, some rain...looks like a decent line and hopefully it holds together.

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